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Old June 20th, 2011 (1:51 PM).
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    I've recently acquired 5/6 Pokemon for my competitive team and I'd like to start EV training.

    Now, I have a few ideas on how to EV train them but I'm not sure which is more efficient. I've never EV trained before and I'm quite nervous o.O

    I was thinking that I should start by leveling them all to 100, giving them -EV berries to reset their stats, then kill things for EVs as well as giving them items to boost their stats.

    Or maybe its better to just give them EXP share and grind through the elite four? I have absolutely no clue what I should do. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!
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      what I generally do is give a low level pokemon a lucky egg and go through the elite four, switching them in on pokemon that yield the EVs i want them to have.

      DO NOT LEVEL THEM TO 100!! pokemon get the boosts from EVs as they level up, so if you start ev training at 100, you won't see the results, if theoretically you could get all 508 of your evs at level 99, then level up to 100, that would be fine though.

      you can use this to go through the elite four if you'd like

      Shauntal

      Cohagrigus 2 Def
      Jellicent 2 Sp.Def
      Froslass 2 Speed
      Drifblim 2 HP
      Goulrk 2 Atk
      Chandelure 3 Sp.Atk


      Grimsely

      Sharpedo 2 Atk
      Liepard 2 Speed
      Scrafty 1 Def 1 Sp.Def
      Drapion 2 Def
      Krookodile 3 Atk
      Bisharp 2 Atk


      Caitlin

      Musharna 2 HP
      Sigilyph 2 Sp.Atk
      Bronzong 1 Def 1 Sp.Def
      Reuniclus 3 Sp.Atk
      Gothitelle 3 Sp.Def
      Metagross 3 Def


      Marshal

      Breloom 2 Atk
      Sawk 2 Atk
      Throh 2 HP
      Toxicroak 2 Atk
      Mienshao 2 Atk
      Conkeldurr 3 Atk


      Alder

      Accelgor 2 Speed
      Bouffalant 2 Atk
      Druddigon 2 Atk
      Vanilluxe 3 Sp.Atk
      Escavalier 2 Atk
      Volcarona 3 Sp.Atk
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      Old June 20th, 2011 (2:08 PM).
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        Oh wow, thanks a bunch for that list! I'm definitely going to use this! Thanks xDDDD

        I thought that Gen V was the exception though? If I remember correctly, I read somewhere that Gen V was the start of level 100's being able to get EV's at 100 from killing things? Or am I mistaken?
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        Old June 20th, 2011 (2:13 PM).
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        Hey there!

        I'm not sure if you've seen this, but it might answer some of your questions.

        Also, this might come in handy for you also.

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        I think I'd still prefer to EV train early rather than later - at least you won't have to compile all of those EV-reduce berries. Plus, you don't really know which EVs went where and so you'll have to use enough berries on each stat to remove potentially all of them (because idk you might have accidentally trained your Slowbro with 255 Speed EVs somehow!). I mean there's no logical way to track where they went so you'd have to use enough berries to wipe out every single EV you -could- have gotten, potentially wasting tons of berries too.

        I dunno, you could try your method but it sounds obnoxiously difficult and I'd much rather just do it nice and simple from the beginning. ;;
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          Hey Vrai! Long time no see xD Good point, I wanted to start EV training earlier because I didn't want to have to use the berries, but I wasn't sure if waiting till 100 was the best thing to do.

          Alexial, thanks for those links. I've been on Smogon but somehow I missed those. Thanks a bunch!
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            Umm, depends what game you are playing, if it's 4th gen then I can tell you the best hot spots for SS/HG.

            If it's B/W I suggest looking up EV hotspots on google.

            I normally raise them to about 40-50 before I start training them. with RC. Give them some decent moves, and feed them the Stat boosters ex. carbon, protein, HP up.

            I have read places lv 100 will not gain EV's because they can no longer gain Exp. but I may be wrong.

            Use power items Bracer, lens, weight ect. when battling the specific pokemon that give the EV you desire.

            PKrus is great here. I can explain this real quick just to verify for you and everybody else who doesn't know.

            Pkrs will double the EV amout gained.

            Ex. magikarp give 1 speed ev so PKRS will double that.

            now a power item attached.

            magikarp still gives 1 ev but power Items add 4 to that, KOing 1 magikarp with a power item gives 5 speed EV's

            Power Item + Pkrs now take that 1+4 in speed and x 2 giving you a total of 10 EV's

            Remember you can only max out 2 stats, each stat can have 255, for a grand total of 510 EV's max

            But you only gain 1 boost for every 4 EV's gained. So max out the 2 stats (if thats all your doing) at 252 EV's then add the extra to something else.

            that's just a quick run down and a basic guide to help you out.

            my knowledge comes from the 20 plus pokemon I have EV trained in the past few days, along with the others I have trained in the past.

            hope this helps. Any questions PM me.

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              Photon, thanks for the advice! I've already got the lists again I EV'd my first Pokemon, Machop. Below are the stats and conversions that I used to determine my EVs"
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                You're right about the difference in how they aquire the stats in b/w, my bad
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                  No problem haha xD I just wanted to make sure I still had that option
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                  Old June 22nd, 2011 (8:28 PM).
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                    it makes sense cause otherwise you could do something like
                    252 atk
                    252 hp
                    then at level 99 give it enough berries to reduce those both to 0, then do
                    252 def
                    252 sp def
                    and level up once to get the rewards, effectively earning 1008 evs
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                      *Technically*, you could EV train at 100 after berry-reducing everything. It's called the Box Trick, and it works well for EV-training Little Cup Pokemon. You gather the vitamins/EVs you need and then pop them in the PC box before they level (or at the target level like 100 or 5 for LC). The PC will "reveal" their EV'd stats in the Summary field and will show them when you withdraw that Pokemon from then on. Test it on a Pokemon you haven't raised and see the change. Usually, I only recommend this for Little Cup training. You're better off EV'ing right from the get-go on regular Pokemon.
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                        *Technically*, you could EV train at 100 after berry-reducing everything. It's called the Box Trick, and it works well for EV-training Little Cup Pokemon. You gather the vitamins/EVs you need and then pop them in the PC box before they level (or at the target level like 100 or 5 for LC). The PC will "reveal" their EV'd stats in the Summary field and will show them when you withdraw that Pokemon from then on. Test it on a Pokemon you haven't raised and see the change. Usually, I only recommend this for Little Cup training. You're better off EV'ing right from the get-go on regular Pokemon.
                        Cool! I'll have to try that! Thanks
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