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Old August 8th, 2011 (11:16 AM).
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    Hey PC, My name is Edens Elite and I'm a little bit of newby to this site. But for the last while I've been trying to figure how to edit trainers, and I finally figured it out and I'm glad to share it with you guys ^.^

    Ok, Lets begin with Requirements;


    You will need...

    • A ROM (duh!)
    • Your Trainer to insert (Double obvs.)
    • FSF (Free Space Finder) - Link
    • UnLZ - Link (Note: UnLZ is included among other programs in this link
    • Irfanview - Link
    • APE (Advanced Palette Editor) - Link
    • MS Paint
    • VBA (Triple Lol ikr)
    • Pedit (PAL to ACT Converter) - Link
    Ok, got all that? Lets dive right in.



    Ok, These are the two trainers I am going to be using in my hack. The first thing I need to do is to separate them. Open up paint and paste one of the trainers in. Adjust the canvas so it is 64x64 pixels, then give it a background colour that you have not used in the trainer. You should end up with something like this
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    Done that? Good now save the image

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    Now you saved it, open the image up in Irfanview

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    Now we need to Index the image properly and make the first colour of the palette the background colour. If you already know how to do this, skip the spoiler.

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    Make sure you click on the 16 Colours option. (Don't have dithering on)

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    Now before you do anything else, copy the image.

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    Now click 'Image' > 'Edit Palette'

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    Now swap the background colour with the first colour. You do this by noting the three numbers (RGB Value) and double clicking the colour to edit them.

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    As you can see, the result looks a little weird, but don't worry we will sonn fix that.

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    Now save the image; I usually overwrite the original but it's up to you.

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    Now open it up in paint.

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    Now press 'Ctrl+V' (Or Paste) and It should look the same as the original.

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    Open it back up in Irfanview to check if the BG colour is the same as the first colour in the palette

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    Yay! You correctly indexed your trainer Pat on the back for you!


    Now were going to export our palette to use later. Sorry the screeny is screwy

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    Now open up Pedit. Then go to File > Open Palette

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    Then just go back to File and click 'Save Palette'. .ACT should be the first default option. The reason we do this is because .PAL files are unreliable and require more effort to use in APE (The palette editing tool) but .ACT nearly always work perfectly.

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    Now open up UnLZ. Click File > Load ROM and select the ROM you shall be inserting the trainer into. In the text box next to 'Goto' type in 1653 and you should roughly be in the trainer area of the ROM use the 'Next' and 'Previous' buttons to find the trainer your editing. Also note (seriously, write down) the Image offset located at the top

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    Click import and select your file. Watch out as this program is very buggy and will crash a lot. I noticed it only ever crashes when you are importing and leave it idle for a second or two. So to avoid it crashing, click on random files until you spot your one and then double-click it.

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    You should see your Sprite there. If there is an error the image has been most likely indexed incorrectly.

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    Click 'Write to ROM' and then click 'OK'.

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    If it appears to have worked fine, skip the following spoiler.

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    You probably saw something like this didn't you?

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    BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING, backup your ROM here, as you are about to repoint a image, and once you do that it's extremely hard even for a really good hacker to edit the image once it's been repointed. And you don't want to do all that hard work and then realise a un-editable mistake, do you?

    Well note down the number, in my case 358 and open up FSF. (If you missed it, follow the last step again and it will give you the same message.) When FSF is open click File > Load ROM and select the same ROM as you selected for UnLZ.

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    In the bottom right corner type the number from before. A number should have appeared in the box above right?

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    Type the number that just appeared in the box next to 'Needed Bytes'. You can select 'Search from the beginning of the ROM' if you want. But it doesn't really matter. I was once read from the offset 800000 on, the ROM is more stable, but I have never had an issue using before and I never use that option so I guess it's up to you. [/ENDRANT] Then Click Find .

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    See the weird number that came up, it's called an Offset. If you imagine a ROM like a city, an Offset is like an address to a house. Click copy.

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    Now go back to UnLz, and click 'Write to ROM' again. This time delete the number in the first box (leave the two zeroes though) and check 'Automatically fix pointers'. Then click 'OK'

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    You should then get a message saying the image has been pointed to a random offset

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    Yay! Your image has been inserted Another pat on the back


    All that is left to do now is edit the palette, it's easy but many people mess it up because of one little mistake I'm going to show you. Open up APE and go to file > Open ROM, you know the drill by now.

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    See the text box next to 'Offset (Hex)'. Type in that number I told you to write down earlier. (Don't say I didn't tell you.) In my case it was 00E67280, this is the offset for the male hero. Watch out by the way as for some reason UnLZ tells you the palette for the male and female hero is the same. This is wrong. To see a mini-directory of APE offsets, go to the bottom of the page.

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    Now click Load.

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    See all the pretty colours that just appeared. notice how some of text boxes are red etc. This is the mistake. DO NOT EDIT THIS PALETTE. Because this image L277 Compressed it's palette is a little weird (Sidenote: Any image that looks normal i.e Looks like it would in-game is L277 Compressed) If you attempt to edit this palette it will warn you it is unsafe to do so, listen to it as if you click ignore the game will freeze the second it tries to load the sprite, battle, trainer card anything.

    So how do you get around this? Check the 'Compressed Palette (L277)' option and then click the mini-arrow to go back and then click the other arrow. So basically you took a step backwards and forwards so you are in the same spot, except now the palette is normal, like in the image below. We edit this palette.

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    Now click the little palette icon at the bottom. (Hover your cursor over it and it should say import.)

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    Under 'Files of type' click the little arrow and select '.ACT', Now locate your ACT palette you made earlier and click open.

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    Click Replace and then Load.

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    The Two sections should now be identical.

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    Now check to in-game.

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    All Good? Yaaaaaaay

    UnLz Numbers

    Please note each ROM differs, but they should be located roughly in the area.

    149- All Eight Badges
    191- World Map- Good Luck with it, though!
    208- Titlescreen Movie Text :2004-Pokemon, 1995-Nintendo...
    211- Titlescreeen Movie Text 2 :GAMEFREAK
    212- GAMEFREAK Logo
    213- Titlescreen Movie Animation : stars (1st slide)
    214- See 214- 2nd slide
    215- See 214- 3rd slide
    216- Titlescreen Movie Text 3 RESENTS
    217-238- Gengar + Nidoran Intro
    280-301- Images when entering an area, eg. Diglett's Cave, Viridian Forest..etc.
    419-430- All kinds of Pokeballs.
    472- Digits (1,2,3,) that show up via elevator, etc.
    Big Gap- Attack Anis
    574- the In-Battle EXP/Lv. Box. Only has these 2 values.
    576-578- same, but w/out the EXP bar.
    579- same, w/out any values.
    Gap-More Attack Anis
    589- UGLY CURSE ANI.
    Gap- see 2nd gap reason
    648-649- UGLIEST EVER. SUBSTITUTE FRONT + BACK.
    651- Yeah! My fav! Stat Up/Down Animations.
    Super Gap- Trainer Sprites, Attack Anis.
    1687-IMPORTANT FOR UN-POKEMON GAMES- the pokeball behind your Pokemon in the Pokemon Menu. Pic coming.
    1688- "Cancel" option on the Pokemon Menu
    1689- Status Afflictions
    1695- Male Bag
    1696- Female Bag
    1702- TMs & HMs
    1706- Berry Bag
    1720-1932- All items, in HEX ORDER. (0= Masterball) Sorry if that isn't put right, didn't know any other way to put it.
    Gap-idk, that's how I wrote it on paper
    1968- Trainer Card
    1969- Player's Status Menu Trainer Card
    1972*- Probably a Pokedex menu
    1973- Modes in Pokedex.
    1974- Pokemon Summary Wiindows, 1,2,3.
    1975+1976- HP bar and EXP bar in summary menu.
    1983- Status Afflictions in Summary Window
    1987- Commands; In-Battle Pokemon Menu eg. Switch,Send..etc.
    1991-2002- Berry Glitch Text and Tilemaps.
    2009- "Pokemon Fire Red Version" Titlescreen Text
    2011- Titlescreen Charizard
    2013- Titlescreen text "Press Start,2004 GAMEFREAK"
    2016- "All right, Including..." Text
    2079- Pokeballs When showing Pokemon in your Party, at the beginning of Battle. Image coming soon

    *Credit to Hellsing


    APE Offsets

    I only have a few, so feel free to post some if I don't have them. I will add more, when I have some free time.

    TEXT BOX - 00471DEC
    TITLE SCREEN - 00EAE094
    TRAINER CARD - 00E99198
    OAK INTRO (BG) - 00460568
    TRAINER CARD (BG) - 00E991B8
    POKEMON TITLE SCREEN LOGO - 00EAB6C4
    MALE BACKSPRITE - E76EC1
    FEMALE BACKSPRITE - E76EE9
    BAG (NOTE: MALE AND FEMALE SHARE THE SAME PALLETE) 00E83DBC
    FEMALE IN-GAME 00E675B4
    MALE IN-GAME 00E67280

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    I tried to make this tutorial as beginner-friendly as possible, but if any questions are asked, I will archive them here for future reference.
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    Old August 9th, 2011 (6:57 AM).
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      Thanks for the tutorial, helped me out a lot. (UNLZ is a hard program to work with)

      One thing, I came across a little trouble with the pallette. I managed to fix it by re-opening UNLZ after editing the pallette's colours, re-importing the image and checking the box 'export pallette'
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        Hmm, The main thing is that it's fixed now, but if you could explain your problem a little further I could post it in the newbies corner. Just for future though, avoid using export palette if you can, It makes UnLZ more likely to crash.
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        Old August 9th, 2011 (7:26 AM).
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          This is just what I have been looking for! Not just for spriting i'm pretty sure this explains even my World Map problems although I may be back to bug you! Hah. Wonderful dude!
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            Hmm, The main thing is that it's fixed now, but if you could explain your problem a little further I could post it in the newbies corner. Just for future though, avoid using export palette if you can, It makes UnLZ more likely to crash.
            The problem I had was it was still using the pallette from the old trainer sprite, as I changed the pallette after I Imported the new sprite.

            I've also found out I don't need to use the export pallette function in UNLZ if I change the pallettes before I import the sprite.
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              The problem I had was it was still using the pallette from the old trainer sprite, as I changed the pallette after I Imported the new sprite.

              I've also found out I don't need to use the export pallette function in UNLZ if I change the pallettes before I import the sprite.
              You don't have to export the palette at all. I show you to export the palette using Irfanview, and then if you change the palette before or after it doesn't make a difference.
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              Old August 9th, 2011 (8:34 AM). Edited August 9th, 2011 by Shinypoliwrath.
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                You don't have to export the palette at all. I show you to export the palette using Irfanview, and then if you change the palette before or after it doesn't make a difference.
                I'm just changing the pallette before importing the sprite. Although I'm not sure if doing various steps at different times would make a huge difference, I'll have to try a few things out.

                Edit: seem to be having trouble editing the rival's first sprite (the one you see in the very first battle), every time I change it (following this guide exactly), the ROM freezes every time I open the menu or leave the hero/heroine's house.
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                  I'm just changing the pallette before importing the sprite. Although I'm not sure if doing various steps at different times would make a huge difference, I'll have to try a few things out.

                  Edit: seem to be having trouble editing the rival's first sprite (the one you see in the very first battle), every time I change it (following this guide exactly), the ROM freezes every time I open the menu or leave the hero/heroine's house.
                  Did you do the L277 step?

                  Because I just tried it and it worked perfectly for me.
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                  Old August 9th, 2011 (11:16 AM). Edited August 9th, 2011 by Shinypoliwrath.
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                    Did you do the L277 step?
                    I'm pretty sure I did, but it's worth another go just in case I didn't.

                    I'll report back if it's still not working.

                    Edit: tried it again, this time it doesn't freeze the rom, it just restarts it. Looks like I'll be doing this a while.
                    Edit2: I think I've figured out what might be causing the problem: the image is 64 pixels in height, but only 30 pixels in width... not sure if that makes a difference, though. I'll see what happens when I change it.

                    Edit3: Yeah, it was a fault of my own, the image size was the thing messing it up. All sorted now.
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                      I did tell you 64x64 pixels in bold

                      Btw, Gary has three sprites, be sure to replace them all. You can use the same palette and sprite though

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                        I did tell you 64x64 pixels in bold
                        I must have skimmed over that bit. *cough*

                        Anyways, it's working perfectly now, thanks for the help.
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                          No Problem Glad it helped someone out.
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                          Old October 11th, 2011 (10:31 PM). Edited October 13th, 2011 by Thrasher24.
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                            its not working for me, it keeps resetting the pallette.
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                              Did you click Replace and then load?
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                                Hm, I'm having the same problem. I can get to the step saying to "Open it back up in Irfanview to check if the BG colour is the same as the first colour in the palette"

                                But when I check the palette resets itself. I tried exporting the correct palette, but when I place it in I just get the green outline and black background.
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                                Old October 30th, 2011 (8:16 AM).
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                                  I think you may have missed out a step.

                                  Index the file
                                  Copy the file
                                  Then edit the palette
                                  The SAVE the file.
                                  Close Irfanview and open it up in paint
                                  then paste it and save
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                                  Old October 30th, 2011 (1:26 PM).
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                                    I went through all the steps too many times to count, including a retry of the steps you just listed today. No dice though, so it's not that. It seems to put the color depth back up to the highest amount when I reopen it to check the palette after pasting and saving in paint.
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                                    Old November 1st, 2011 (12:56 PM).
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                                      Are you running XP? Because I'm not sure if other versions will work.

                                      If you send me the image, I will index it for you.
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                                        Ah, that might explain it. I have windows 7. Okay, I'll send you the image.
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                                          Ya..I am having the same problem and I swear I followed your steps listed above...I am also using XP so I have no idea what I did wrong

                                          Other than that..this is a great tutorial
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                                            Hi, I am pretty knew to the Pokemon community,
                                            first of all I am finding it a bit difficult in terms of user friendly
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                                            if anyone could please help me with something, i have done research on this for so long,
                                            I want to know how to change the intro sprite of proffessor oak in pokemon fire red before you start the in game
                                            if any one could please help me that would be great! :D
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                                              people ulnz is so confusing just use NSE its so much better now they posted a new one you'll have to find the offsets for trainers and plug those in to the navigator to find the sprites it lets you edit them right there and you can edit pallets too. you dont have to import and export and all that $h!t
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                                              Old January 7th, 2012 (2:59 AM). Edited January 8th, 2012 by MissDigitalis.
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                                                Well I can replace the trainers with the correct pallets like this but for some reason it freezes when I try to take a potion out of the PC. =S

                                                Edit: I figured out what I was doing wrong. I wasn't allowing enough room for the offsets because I forgot to copy the numbers.
                                                Double Edit: Even when I follow the directions exactly it messes up the pallet for the gentlemen.

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                                                people ulnz is so confusing just use NSE its so much better now they posted a new one you'll have to find the offsets for trainers and plug those in to the navigator to find the sprites it lets you edit them right there and you can edit pallets too. you dont have to import and export and all that $h!t
                                                How do you access the trainer sprites from NSE? I mean I know you can edit the mini sprites but what about the ones that you see at the beginning of the battle?
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                                                    Yeah, I realise a few weeks after how much more convenient NSE is, at the moment I'm really busy with school so I haven't been hacking. When I come back to it, I'll be sure to update the tutorial.
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                                                    ROM Hacking was getting frustrating for me. I've now stopped productions and writing the game from scratch in HTML 5.

                                                    That means it will be playable in the browser, and across multiple devices such as the iPod touch.
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