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Old September 16th, 2011 (3:52 PM). Edited November 10th, 2011 by Itzal.
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    I find I have trouble deciding on which ghosts to use, let alone sticking with a decision. I've tried many combinations with many movesets (using many Heart Scales and what TMs I have available), but nothing ever seems quite right.

    My strengths are in direct battling. I can handle moves like Will-O-Wisp and Rest, but other than that I don't know what I'm doing if I'm not pummelling my opponent with heavy hitting direct attacks. I need help deciding once and for all on a team of ghost Pokémon that is strong enough to put on a fierce battle, but with a moveset that isn't going to make me pull my hair out.

    Any thoughts, anyone?


    The team I'm currently attempting to compile is:

    Spiritomb @ BrightPowder
    Modest
    Mummy
    1. Shadow Ball
    2. Dark Pulse
    3. Will-O-Wisp
    4. Psychic

    Jellicent @ Rocky Helmet
    Bold
    Cursed Body
    1. Shadow Ball
    2. Hydro Pump
    3. Recover
    4. Ice Beam

    Drifblim @ None
    Naive
    Aftermath
    1. Shadow Ball
    2. Acrobatics
    3. Psychic
    4. Thunder

    Gengar @ Black Sludge
    Modest
    Levitate
    1. Shadow Ball
    2. Sludge Bomb
    3. Focus Blast
    4. Energy Ball

    Chandelure @ Shell Bell
    Modest
    Flame Body
    1. Shadow Ball
    2. Fire Blast
    3. Psychic
    4. Energy Ball

    Dusknoir @ Leftovers
    Adamant
    Pressure
    1. Shadow Punch
    2. Rock Slide
    3. Brick Break
    4. Earthquake
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    Old September 16th, 2011 (4:21 PM).
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    It may be a good idea to give your Pokemon EVs. For Cohagrigus, I'd use this, since Double Team is looked down upon in competitive battling:
    -Rest
    -Haze
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Shadow Ball/Hex
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/136 Def/120 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    Froslass makes a good lead, but Team Preview ruins that. Still, it's a good one:
    -Spikes
    -Taunt
    -Destiny Bond
    -Ice Beam
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Focus Sash
    Ability: Snow Cloak

    Using physical attacks on Jellicent is a bad idea due to its low Attack. This makes the most out of its defensive capabilities:
    -Scald/Surf
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Recover
    -Taunt/Ice Beam/Shadow Ball
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    Golurk is best off with Choice Band as its item:
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -Hammer Arm
    -Shadow Punch/Toxic
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 208 HP/252 Atk/48 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Iron Fist

    Drifblim isn't very good to be honest. I'd have Gengar due to its wide move pool:
    -Substitute
    -Disable/Pain Split
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

    Chandelure is best as an all-out attacker:
    -Overheat/Fire Blast
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hidden Power (Fighting)
    -Energy Ball
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 72 HP/252 SAtk/184 Spe (Choice Specs) or 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe (Choice Scarf)
    Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf
    Ability: Flash Fire
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    Old September 16th, 2011 (4:50 PM).
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      Thanks for the feedback, but did I mention I'm not looking to get into competitive battling? I also notice you didn't give Froslass any Ghost attacks. Intentional? Lastly, I'm honestly not very fond of moves that rely too heavily on luck. I like pokemon and moves that are reliable.

      Still, I'll give your suggestions some thought. Feel free to make any additional suggestions or modify your previous one.


      EDIT: Why Flash Fire instead of Flame Body on Chandelure?
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      Old September 16th, 2011 (6:13 PM).
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      Thanks for the feedback, but did I mention I'm not looking to get into competitive battling? I also notice you didn't give Froslass any Ghost attacks. Intentional? Lastly, I'm honestly not very fond of moves that rely too heavily on luck. I like pokemon and moves that are reliable.

      Still, I'll give your suggestions some thought. Feel free to make any additional suggestions or modify your previous one.


      EDIT: Why Flash Fire instead of Flame Body on Chandelure?
      Flash Fire is there on Chandelure because it gives it another opportunity to switch in. Even though it's already resistant to Fire, Flash Fire boosts its Fire moves when hit by a Fire move instead of damaging it. That, and Flame Body doesn't activate whenever you want it to all the time.

      Ice Beam is Froslass' lone attack because if it opts to use Shadow Ball as its only move, it's walled by Normal Pokemon. Also, the Froslass set I posted isn't meant to sweep, only to support.
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      Old September 16th, 2011 (6:53 PM).
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        Flash Fire is there on Chandelure because it gives it another opportunity to switch in. Even though it's already resistant to Fire, Flash Fire boosts its Fire moves when hit by a Fire move instead of damaging it. That, and Flame Body doesn't activate whenever you want it to all the time.

        Ice Beam is Froslass' lone attack because if it opts to use Shadow Ball as its only move, it's walled by Normal Pokemon. Also, the Froslass set I posted isn't meant to sweep, only to support.
        I see, and the Choice items?
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        Old September 16th, 2011 (6:56 PM).
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        I see, and the Choice items?
        Choice Scarf makes up for Chandelure's average Speed, while Choice Specs makes it hit harder right off the bat without setting up Calm Mind.

        Choice Band is on Golurk because it doesn't have a way to boost its Attack.
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        Old September 16th, 2011 (7:59 PM). Edited October 26th, 2011 by Itzal.
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          Choice Scarf makes up for Chandelure's average Speed, while Choice Specs makes it hit harder right off the bat without setting up Calm Mind.

          Choice Band is on Golurk because it doesn't have a way to boost its Attack.
          I must say, being limitted to a single move is worrysome, but on a sweeper I suppose it isn't that big a deal now I think about it.

          Speaking of thinking, I've decided on my 6 pokemon. It'll be the 5th-gen four, Gengar to pay homage to the original, and Spiritomb simply because it's my two favorite types and I just like it.

          Moves are still up for discussion. [/general thread note]


          EDIT: I've updated my team in the first post. Also, when I say "diverse", I mean in terms of the offensive move types. I want to be able to get super effective hits against as many foes as possible, but at the same time I want to work in a few status attacks. The thing for which I'm seeking input now is any major holes in the new team and how to best cover for them.

          EDIT 2: The first post has been revised.
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          Old October 26th, 2011 (1:53 PM).
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            After giving it some thought, I'm "re-opening" this thread. Please see the updated first post.

            Also, my signature reflects the team I'm considering at any given time, to give you something to go off of.
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