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Old January 15th, 2012 (11:41 AM). Edited January 17th, 2012 by 14Henderson7.
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    Sandstorm FTW

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    Let's break this down shall we?

    (F) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 64 SAtk / 192 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Stone Edge
    - Crunch
    - Fire Blast

    Obv set up with Sand Stream. Then throw out a Stealth Rock for some damage. If he's taking hits like a champ, Sweep away (Yes, I've actually swept with him a few times).

    (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Suction Cups
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Toxic
    - Seed Bomb
    - Recover

    Everyone has a Troll don't they? This is mine. Hp and Def EV's plus the 50% SpDef boost from Sandstorm to help blukiness. Toxic to watch their health whittle away. And if you need to, Recover until it does so. Seed Bomb for STAB against Water counter.

    (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Inner Focus
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Nasty Plot
    - Aura Sphere
    - Flash Cannon
    - Dragon Pulse

    Special Sweeper. Bring in on a weak foe, and one of two things. 1) Predict the switch in and use Nasty Plot for SpAtk boost +2, or 2) Start sweeping. High SpAtk with Life Orb does major damage. Aura Sphere for STAB and perfect hits, Flash Cannon for STAB and Dragon Pulse for Dragon counters.

    (M) @ Flying Gem
    Trait: Sand Veil
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Substitute
    - Acrobatics
    - Earthquake
    - Swords Dance

    Thinking about switching him out. Wasn't sure on a moveset, so I threw Substitute in there. Kind of a good revenge killer with Acrobatics.

    @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Rapid Spin
    - Hydro Pump
    - Thunderbolt
    - Recover

    Hit fast, hit hard, Spin and hazards away. Thunderbolt so he isn't walled by any other Water-Types. Just a spinner with added bonuses.

    (M) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Sand Force
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - U-turn
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    Physical Sweeper. Choice Scarf raises Speed and outspeeds quite a bit I've seen. That's all.
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    I love Sandstorm teams and this one is working pretty great so far.

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    Old January 15th, 2012 (7:21 PM).
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    IMO, Tyranitar is better off choosing between setting up SR or doing Dragon Dance, but it can't really do both, since it really needs coverage. This set is best for using Tyranitar's excellent special bulk while hitting hard:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Crunch
    -Fire Blast
    -Ice Beam/Superpower/Stone Edge
    Nature: Sassy
    EVs: 252 HP/64 SAtk/192 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream

    I don't think Seed Bomb should be Cradily's lone offensive move. It could use a move or two, preferably over Protect:
    -Toxic
    -Recover
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide/Energy Ball/Giga Drain/Seed Bomb
    Nature: Impish/Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    On Starmie, use Thunderbolt over Ice Beam so it isn't walled by other Water Pokemon.

    I'd switch out Aerodactyl for Terrakion or Landorus:

    Terrakion:
    -Swords Dance
    -Rock Polish
    -Close Combat
    -Stone Edge
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Rock Gem/Air Balloon

    Landorus:
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge/Rock Slide
    -U-turn
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Hammer Arm
    Nature: Naive/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf
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    Old January 15th, 2012 (7:49 PM).
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      I was looking for your input, seeing how I see you a top competitor. I could learn a lot from you. Thanks for your input!
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      Old January 17th, 2012 (2:50 PM).
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        Edited the team, hows it look guys?
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        Old January 17th, 2012 (4:20 PM).
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        I don't think Lucario needs Flash Cannon, since Steel already hits whatever Fighting hits. I'd use Shadow Ball or Dark Pulse instead of that because both moves have good coverage with Arua Sphere. Over Dragon Pulse, you can use Vacuum Wave for priority or Hidden Power (Ice) for opposing Gliscor and Landorus.
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        Old January 18th, 2012 (8:01 AM).
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          I'd say Dark Pulse over Dragon Pulse on Lucario. For Gliscor, I don't think a one-time, big-time Gliscor would work as a revenge killer. It can be a stall w/ Poison Heal, or even stallbreaker w/ Sandveil. You have Landorus as your revenge killer.
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          Old January 19th, 2012 (7:39 AM).
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            Starmie and Cradily needs to go
            you dont really need a spinner when you have gliscor, lucario and landrous immune to toxic and not to mention 2 of them arent hurt by spikes.
            leftovers on TTar > focus stash. focus stash is for suicide leads and in gen 5 no one uses suicide leads in OU anymore so lefties is a better option on TTar
            to be honest i'd ditch landrous because to have gliscor and landrous on the same team is not sucha hot idea both being 4x weak to ice

            first i would suggest a change in TTar's moveset

            TTAR @ Leftovers
            Trait: Sand Stream
            EVs: 252 HP / 64 SAtk / 192 SDef
            Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
            - Stealth Rock / Thunder (Thunder against politoeds who may think its safe to switch into your TTar)
            - Pursuit/Ice Beam (pursuit good for trapping celebi's, latios's, latias's)
            - Crunch
            - Fire Blast

            3 pokemon that would do well as replacements

            Rotom W fairly bulky can be switched into water and ice attacks thrown at gliscor and TTar and also quad resists steel type attacks. It can volt switch in and out giving you switch initiative. Also trick is very good for crippling walls such as terrorthorn, skarmory etc. which allows your sweepers gliscor and lucario to set up and sweep. not to mention Rotom W is a great pokemon to lead off with against rain teams and other sand teams i.e. politoed perfect replacement for starmie

            Rotom-W @ Choice Scarf
            Trait: Levitate
            EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
            Nature:Timid
            - Volt Switch (Good for switch checking)
            - Hydro Pump
            - Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
            - Trick

            Latios replaces landrous as your revenge killer, although he is weak to ice is immune to ground and most hazards and it resists fighting and water attacks which hurts your lucario and TTar. Choice Specs Draco Meteor hits everything hard. The reason why Latios is better than landrous on this time is simple Latios has more type coverage, landerous hits almost exactly the same types as Gliscor, Ttar, Cradily and Lucario in your team.

            Latios @ Choice Specs
            Nature: Timid
            Trait: levitate
            EVs:4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
            - Draco Meteor
            - Surf
            - Hidden Power Fire / Dragon Pulse
            - Trick

            Heatran to replace cradily, Heatran is a good switch into U-turn and Volt switch for he wont take that much damage from those 2 moves. He can also set up stealth rocks instead letting your TTar carry it. Your team doesnt really need a defensive wall with rotom and gliscor in your team. Roar to phase out sweepers and also really hurt sun team users (fire pokemon)
            Lava plume is like scald good for the burn but if some may prefer flamethrower for the damage

            Heatran @ leftovers
            Nature: Calm
            Trait: Flash Fire
            EVs: 248 HP / 100 SpD / 160 Spe
            - Lava Plume / Flamethrower
            - Protect / Stealth Rocks
            - Roar
            - Earth Power / Toxic

            With these changes in your team you shouldn't need a spinner because only your TTar can get poisoned and also Lucario's moveset should be

            -Aura Sphere
            -Dark Pulse
            -Vacuum Wave
            -Nasty Plot

            Dark pulse is better than Flask Canon and Dragon Pulse because Dark hits everything that Aura Sphere Doesn't. Flask Canon only hits ice and rock and Aura Sphere hits them for super effective damage already. Dragon pulse only hits dragons hard so Vacuum Wave is a better choice incase your opponent chooses to kill Lucario with a Mach Punch you can out speed with Vacuum Wave.
             

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