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Old January 21st, 2012 (12:21 PM). Edited January 21st, 2012 by KH Fan Bixran.
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i like playing agressive, and this seemed perfect. however, i cannot seem to set up my team right. that, or i just cant seem to synergize enough.

Azelf @ Light Clay
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Taunt
my dual-screener, not much to say

AuraKnight (Lucario) (M) @ Air Balloon
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- ExtremeSpeed
- Ice Punch
- Swords Dance

seems to be useful under screens

Haxorz (Haxorus) (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Mold Breaker
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Brick Break

big heavy hitter, especially w/ screens up

Terra (Terrakion) @ Air Balloon
Trait: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Rock Polish
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge

not sure of him, thinking of replacing

Gary Oak (Garchomp) (M) @ Yache Berry
Trait: Sand Veil
Hardy Nature
- Swords Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Fire Fang

EDIT: forgot gar is uber, so need a viable OU replacement for him

Alamos (Latios) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef
Hardy Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Surf
- Recover

i am thinking this dude was a bad idea, found it on smogon, REALLY want to change it.

any help is appreciated!!

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Old January 21st, 2012 (4:44 PM).
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For Haxorus, use 220 Speed EVs to outspeed most Pokemon not holding a Choice Scarf, then the last 36 in HP.

Old January 22nd, 2012 (8:39 AM).
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Something I noticed is that your team is pretty much weak to Timid Latios @ LO/Choice, since when Azelf is down it's basically super effective hits against everything else. Two of your Pokemon are weak to faster dragons too. So! Basically what you'd be best off doing is changing Latios to Timid and investing in Speed, rather than SDef since not even on the Calm Mind set it invests in SDef :x And at least that way you can at least hope for a speed-tie with most Latios'. Now that isn't really the "best" thing, since there's a chance you'll miss out on the tie, etc. SO, you'll probably be best off with another steel in Garchomp's position, since members of your team are also weak against Ice, and with Donphan, Mamoswine, Cloyster, Starmie and with various others w/ HP Ice, a second steel can come in handy to help out your team when Lucario is down.

Best I can think of for this rn is Scizor to resist this kinda stuff & it can take out most of the ice types that'll annoy your dragons & can mostly take out Latios after a bit of damage, plus it gives you extra priority etc.

Posting the basic offensive Scizor for easy!

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Old January 22nd, 2012 (1:53 PM).
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If you want a very reliable insurance option, Mamoswine or Weavile could be solid ideas, though both have some trouble fitting in on HO teams. SD Weavile might not be a bad idea though. It's faster than just about anything and is a good specialist.

More than anything, I would put in Salamence with Intimidate or just something to sure of the defenses a little. If you can't take the momentum right away (maybe because of a priority Taunt or something) you're in a world of trouble. I definitely like Nica's Scizor suggestion. I was going to reply earlier and forgot what I was gonna say, blah. I might mention something on the server.

But yeah Garchomp is prolly a no-go! ;p
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Old January 23rd, 2012 (7:19 AM). Edited January 23rd, 2012 by TheBowsinator.
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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude View Post
For Haxorus, use 220 Speed EVs to outspeed most Pokemon not holding a Choice Scarf, then the last 36 in HP.
haxorus is really frail anyway, so just max the speed

that HP wont do you anygood, and outspeeding things is always a plus.
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Old January 23rd, 2012 (8:04 AM).
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It is going to dance so a bit of survival won't hurt. If it dances once, it can outspeed almost everything un-scarfed.

Instead of Latios, why not try CM Latias? It's bulky enough and can throw back strong attacks. Dual Screens should be maximized or else your team would get down easily by being walled. Sucker punchers can deal with Azelf or something that is scarf'ed. You may need a Utility Pokemon that can heal your damaged attackers, and also a Special Attacker (if you want to discard Latios) for very Defensive Pokemons like Skarmory, Ferrothorn, Gliscor, and many other.
Old January 23rd, 2012 (7:33 PM).
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is this some kinda hyper offensive team?
lucario needs crunch > ice beam, or else jellycent, tentacruel, any bulky psychic types will wall you for days.

instead of chomp you can get rotom-w
deals with gliscor, anything lucario cant handle without icebeam. your team pretty much stomps ferrothorn

so the move set i suggest

rotom-w @ choice scarf
EVs 4 HP / 252 SpAtt / 252 Spe
-volt switch
-trick/thunder/thunderbolt (usually people go with trick, but thunder is good with all those rainstall team going around)
-hp [ice]
-hydro pump

specially offensive T-Tar will also boosts the def of terrikion
Old January 24th, 2012 (7:51 AM).
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Swords Dance and Lum Berry on Haxorus > Brick Break and LO. Dual Dance Haxorus is by far its best and most deadly and can actually break walls and its counters and checks, SD Outrage 2HKO's Skarmory and the Lum Berry lets you beat T-Wave Ferrothorn etc. Whilst DD lets you shred offensive teams.

Dragonite > Garchomp. Under Screens with Multi Scale it pretty much wins game. Lum Berry max att/ max speed Fire Punch / DD / Outrage / ES as this team cannot take status for squat.

As for the other suggestions, Choice users suck on HO as they gift other pokemon a free set up and on a team as frail as HO you cannot afford to do. Likewise with walls and tanks.

Plus you should really attack from one side of the spectrum to pound away on the same counter till it breaks and as thus opens up a hole in the opposing team. Skarmory and Ferro are not problems when they both get 2hko'd by everything on this team.
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