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    Transfering never gives you a special bonus evens one aesthetically pleasing, so I doubt they will for these since there wasn't one coded in the games before. Most likely they won't do anything and the game will still treat them as foreign Pokemon. They'd still say Hoenn, despite you being back in Hoenn, instead of saying where they were caught/traded/obtained/given/hatched.
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    I guess that could be compared from FRLG to HGSS. Even though transferring from RSE to [whatever their remake names would be] would be one generation longer, it'd still just say Hoenn most likely, but I wonder if it would make a comment on the time difference. I mean they'd be coming from games that are almost 10 years old (they WILL be 10 years old by the time a remake may be announced, IMO), so it's certainly something to think about.

    One thing I'm curious about is how the inner timeline will work out, if Ruby/Sapphire are remade. The general consensus is that Ruby and Sapphire took place at the same time as FireRed and LeafGreen. Which would mean that RSE took place 2 years before GSC/HGSS/DPPt. Which, as is generally believed, took place around 5 years (give or take) before Black and White, which took place 2 years before Black 2 and White 2.

    This made me curious, as it would mean that Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald take place about 7 years before B2W2, and so... It'd make it strange, considering games in the same generation have generally been in the same timeframe thus far.
    Although since BW can interact relatively freely with B2W2 despite the 2 year difference, I guess there's not all that much to think about, maybe. :P
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    Old September 25th, 2012 (7:05 AM). Edited September 25th, 2012 by MiTjA.
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      For everyone saying there is a gap to fill before a new gen....

      -It doesnt NEED to be DS in this case either.
      They could prepare the "playground" with RS remakes on 3DS if they wanted, and then be able to simply focus on the new generation with the games later without having to figure out a 3DS engine at the same time.
      That would actually be the best thing to happen in every way, if they really wanna make RS remakes no matter what (which I wouldnt bet on)

      -There is no predictable aspect to main games currently
      For all we know they could even do some weird hybrid of remake and sequel in Hoenn while regardless adding new pokemon like some kind of pseudo-generation.
      Or, who knows what!


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      I guess that could be compared from FRLG to HGSS. Even though transferring from RSE to [whatever their remake names would be] would be one generation longer, it'd still just say Hoenn most likely, but I wonder if it would make a comment on the time difference. I mean they'd be coming from games that are almost 10 years old (they WILL be 10 years old by the time a remake may be announced, IMO), so it's certainly something to think about.

      One thing I'm curious about is how the inner timeline will work out, if Ruby/Sapphire are remade. The general consensus is that Ruby and Sapphire took place at the same time as FireRed and LeafGreen. Which would mean that RSE took place 2 years before GSC/HGSS/DPPt. Which, as is generally believed, took place around 5 years (give or take) before Black and White, which took place 2 years before Black 2 and White 2.

      This made me curious, as it would mean that Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald take place about 7 years before B2W2, and so... It'd make it strange, considering games in the same generation have generally been in the same timeframe thus far.
      Although since BW can interact relatively freely with B2W2 despite the 2 year difference, I guess there's not all that much to think about, maybe. :P
      It just further makes me confident that there wont be copy&paste remakes, if at all.
      With BW2 its a future Unova, but remakes would basically be the exact same game... so you could trade something from your Ruby to DPtHGSS, to BW/2 and then to your new Ruby. lol.
      It seems so weird that remakes would be compatible with their originals, when the point of remakes is to bring something outdated back xD
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        I guess that could be compared from FRLG to HGSS. Even though transferring from RSE to [whatever their remake names would be] would be one generation longer, it'd still just say Hoenn most likely, but I wonder if it would make a comment on the time difference. I mean they'd be coming from games that are almost 10 years old (they WILL be 10 years old by the time a remake may be announced, IMO), so it's certainly something to think about.

        One thing I'm curious about is how the inner timeline will work out, if Ruby/Sapphire are remade. The general consensus is that Ruby and Sapphire took place at the same time as FireRed and LeafGreen. Which would mean that RSE took place 2 years before GSC/HGSS/DPPt. Which, as is generally believed, took place around 5 years (give or take) before Black and White, which took place 2 years before Black 2 and White 2.

        This made me curious, as it would mean that Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald take place about 7 years before B2W2, and so... It'd make it strange, considering games in the same generation have generally been in the same timeframe thus far.
        Although since BW can interact relatively freely with B2W2 despite the 2 year difference, I guess there's not all that much to think about, maybe. :P
        I've been thinking about that to. The way I see it, if you look at HG/SS there is kinda no doubting that GF made them pair up time line wise with Platinum. Also there is no question that GF made BW take place after gen 4. But if you look at FR/LG and R/S these are the list of references gen 3 as to gen 1

        Brawly is said to have once trained alongside Bruno, who is a member of Kanto's Elite Four.
        The Oceanic Museum in Slateport City has two water samples, one of which is from Kanto. Its background music theme is also an arrangement of the S.S. Anne theme.
        On Faraway Island, a series of smudged messages, which may have been left by Mr. Fuji, appear on a signpost.
        A boy in Lilycove City says that he and his family came from the Kanto region before he asks if there are any Pokémon found only in the Hoenn region.
        In Victory Road, there is a small crater where Moltres used to be.
        To Generation II

        So I wouldn't be a big leap to have R/S to take place the same time as BW/2
        Also if you noticed the plasma grunt in N'S castle mentions team galactic and Rocket and not Aqua And Magma. Now some people say its because team R/G was more noticeable but I disagree. Team A/M actually succeeded in there plan it's just they weren't able to control there pokemon.
        Beside I like to think the events of Red and Blue took place before everything
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          After thinking for a while, I've noticed that ever since Gen III, there has been a total of 5 [Cartridge] games. Gen III had Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Fire Red, and Leaf Green. Gen IV had Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, Heart Gold, and Soul Silver. Since we have 4 total [Cartridge] games so far, and if they follow what I believe they are doing, we'll have an Emerald remake, but not a remake of Ruby and Sapphire.
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            After thinking for a while, I've noticed that ever since Gen III, there has been a total of 5 [Cartridge] games. Gen III had Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Fire Red, and Leaf Green. Gen IV had Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, Heart Gold, and Soul Silver. Since we have 4 total [Cartridge] games so far, and if they follow what I believe they are doing, we'll have an Emerald remake, but not a remake of Ruby and Sapphire.
            IGN: When developing for such a beloved series as Pokémon, how do you go about shaking things up while still staying true to the traditional core experience that people love so much?
            Masuda: Obviously, coming up with new ideas and keeping it fresh every time is a challenge that we're always excited to tackle when we make new games. For Black and White 2, compared to the previous titles, you have the new story, the new towns, the new protagonists. A lot of that mixes it up to feel different from the Black and White games. In terms of a more general perspective, whenever we decide to make a new game... in all the games, you meet the Professor, get the Pokémon, and find out how to catch them in the tall grass. But even those very basic elements, we don't necessarily feel forced to include them.
            When we first think about the design, we kind of throw everything out the window, and we think about what we really need to do to make it exciting for players. And then, as we're developing, we'll often go back and put those elements back in. But we don't have a locked-down formula, so to speak, that we follow every time. It just ends up that a lot of the really good elements find their way back into the games.

            So they don't follow patterns it's just sometimes it come out that way
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              Yeah. People always see something happening TWICE and go "omg a pattern". And even if its something that depends on actual planning and all kinds of factors...the least of their worries is sticking to some pattern for the sake of it.
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                I think RSE remakes would be good, I loved to play them, and I think it would be fun to play them again, however I refuse to get a 3DS so it's out of my reach.
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                  I think RSE remakes would be good, I loved to play them, and I think it would be fun to play them again, however I refuse to get a 3DS so it's out of my reach.
                  Well nows the time to move on.
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                    I refuse to get a 3DS.
                    Why do you refuse to buy a 3DS? I keep seeing this, mostly from people who think the 3DS is another "Super DS". The 3DS is a totally new system. It is not an upgraded DS like the DSLite and DSi. It is pretty much like a handheld Wii.
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                      If they intend to make Pokemon Grey/BW3, the remakes will probably come first, both on 3DS, the
                      reason I think there's another Unova game is because of the God stone, but they could Make Grey/BW3 in the next generation.
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                        You should really just keep it in notes until it's fully ready as using a spoiler for that makes it so tempting to read, haha(even more so when you say not to read it and when you don't finish it for a long time like last time).
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                          I think RSE remakes would be good, I loved to play them, and I think it would be fun to play them again, however I refuse to get a 3DS so it's out of my reach.
                          Did you also "refuse" to get a GBC, GBA, and a DS?

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                          If they intend to make Pokemon Grey/BW3, the remakes will probably come first, both on 3DS, the
                          reason I think there's another Unova game is because of the God stone, but they could Make Grey/BW3 in the next generation.
                          I'm almost positive there won't be a B/W3. The story is pretty much closed out in B/W2. Perhaps at first they thought they would just make a third game and they put the God Stone in, but later on they decided to make sequels and put it in there. Besides, its not like there's never been leftover items before.
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                            I'm almost positive there won't be a B/W3. The story is pretty much closed out in B/W2. Perhaps at first they thought they would just make a third game and they put the God Stone in, but later on they decided to make sequels and put it in there. Besides, its not like there's never been leftover items before.
                            Well BW was finished in itself too.
                            Apparently they didn't plan BW2 alongside BW, and only later decided to do sequels for a change, because they saw potential.

                            But yes, of course they left lots of things they could use in any kind of improved version, like they always do. Some of it actually already makes it into the initial games data, most of it probably doesn't, usually just what is required for compatibility.


                            And as for BW3, Masuda sounded pretty much like they are happy with this set of sequels to compliment BW.

                            All those recent interviews pretty much decreased the probability of Grey/BW3 from ~5% to 0%.
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                              Did you also "refuse" to get a GBC, GBA, and a DS?



                              I'm almost positive there won't be a B/W3. The story is pretty much closed out in B/W2. Perhaps at first they thought they would just make a third game and they put the God Stone in, but later on they decided to make sequels and put it in there. Besides, its not like there's never been leftover items before.
                              I doubt they suddenly decided to make B2W2 after BW, the sequels have many new places and features more than any previous 3rd version I think it would take more than the time between BW and B2W2 to make B2W2. I think they planned B2W2 when they were making BW, Kyurem's B2W2's Pokedex entry says it awaits for the hero
                              to patch its incomplete body with truth and ideals.

                              As I also mentioned before, Grey could be in the next generation in another region located near Unova.
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                              If there is a B&W3 I hope it comes after the remakes or either takes place in another region. Unova will eventually get old.
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                                theyre deffinately gonna make one. they came out with a remake of FRLG when the RSE came out. (gen 1) then they came out with a remake of HGSS right before BW (gen 2) so you see the pattern? (they make a remake after every new game.) so theyre deffinately going to make one after B2W2.
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                                  theyre deffinately gonna make one. they came out with a remake of FRLG when the RSE came out. (gen 1) then they came out with a remake of HGSS right before BW (gen 2) so you see the pattern? (they make a remake after every new game.) so theyre deffinately going to make one after B2W2.
                                  XD As stated by others, 2 does not make a pattern. Also Gens 1 and 2 needed remaking because both games were not able to connect to the other games, which Gen 3 still can right now.

                                  We don't know if they plan on continue remaking games after Masuda's last interview where he admitted that they didn't plan any patterns, the games just came out that way. We believe or hope that they will. That's pretty much all we have to hold onto.
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                                    theyre deffinately gonna make one. they came out with a remake of FRLG when the RSE came out. (gen 1) then they came out with a remake of HGSS right before BW (gen 2) so you see the pattern? (they make a remake after every new game.) so theyre deffinately going to make one after B2W2.
                                    XD As stated by others, 2 does not make a pattern. Also Gens 1 and 2 needed remaking because both games were not able to connect to the other games, which Gen 3 still can right now.

                                    We don't know if they plan on continue remaking games after Masuda's last interview where he admitted that they didn't plan any patterns, the games just came out that way. We believe or hope that they will. That's pretty much all we have to hold onto.
                                    No the pattern was that they made a remake after every new game. I think they are making remakes to bring back classics for more fun. Everyone likes the older games.
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                                      If remakes ever do come out, I do hope they have a "GBA Sounds" like the "GC sounds" for HGSS.

                                      The RSE soundtrack is my fav next to RBGY.
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                                        No the pattern was that they made a remake after every new game. I think they are making remakes to bring back classics for more fun. Everyone likes the older games.
                                        I'm not entirely sure about that. Now that I think about it , gen 1 and 2 needed a remake to easily get pokemon. Now one could argue it is difficult to get all the hoen pokemon to complete the Pokedex and I can Attest to that as I've completed the national Pokedex in my white version , of course I had a 3ds a DS light pokemon sapphire , emerald,leaf green , heartgold , soul silver , pearl , platinum , white , Japanese white ,pokemon black and over 400 hours of free time lol.

                                        So there is a need for a new hoen based game, but does it Necessarily have to be a remake? That's really the question , is it really a pattern if its Necessary?
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                                        I think Xander is trying to say Masuda implied that there is no pattern with the game releases and remakes, it was merely coincidence and there were certain necessities.

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                                          I'm not entirely sure about that. Now that I think about it , gen 1 and 2 needed a remake to easily get pokemon. Now one could argue it is difficult to get all the hoen pokemon to complete the Pokedex and I can Attest to that as I've completed the national Pokedex in my white version , of course I had a 3ds a DS light pokemon sapphire , emerald,leaf green , heartgold , soul silver , pearl , platinum , white , Japanese white ,pokemon black and over 400 hours of free time lol.

                                          So there is a need for a new hoen based game, but does it Necessarily have to be a remake? That's really the question , is it really a pattern if its Necessary?
                                          Between whats in the new games and what I already owned, I've already completed the Hoenndex. I'm maybe missing one starter, but other than that I've easily completed that dex thanks to all the events in HG/SS and D/P/Pt.

                                          Oh I am missing Deoxys but that's hardly worth a remake for especially since Deoxys was released with FR/LG.

                                          About 50ish percent of the Hoenn Pokemon are available in B/W and even more in B2W2 barring Legends which are events in HG/SS

                                          B2W2 is only missing the Starters (Which you can get in HG/SS) Poochyena (White Forest), Zigzagoon, Wurmple (white Forest), Nincada, Whismur (White Forest), Torkoal, Duskull, Chimecho (Abundant Shrine), Snorunt, and the Weather Trio (HG/SS)

                                          So more than 50% is catchable between Gen 4 and Gen 5. Not to mention most except a few choice ones, the Starters, and Weather Trio are also available in the Dream World.



                                          Only reason to remake Hoenn at this point is to update the story and graphics (latter would also be reason for another R/B remake)((Funnily enough I told this to a manager at Gamestop and ended up getting a rant on how and why they should remake Yellow XD))

                                          But as for my reason for posting, Pokemon isn't a reason for a remake as almost all are available. Though they don't really need to remake any game at all. They just do it for the money.
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                                            Between whats in the new games and what I already owned, I've already completed the Hoenndex. I'm maybe missing one starter, but other than that I've easily completed that dex thanks to all the events in HG/SS and D/P/Pt.

                                            Oh I am missing Deoxys but that's hardly worth a remake for especially since Deoxys was released with FR/LG.

                                            About 50ish percent of the Hoenn Pokemon are available in B/W and even more in B2W2 barring Legends which are events in HG/SS

                                            B2W2 is only missing the Starters (Which you can get in HG/SS) Poochyena (White Forest), Zigzagoon, Wurmple (white Forest), Nincada, Whismur (White Forest), Torkoal, Duskull, Chimecho (Abundant Shrine), Snorunt, and the Weather Trio (HG/SS)

                                            So more than 50% is catchable between Gen 4 and Gen 5. Not to mention most except a few choice ones, the Starters, and Weather Trio are also available in the Dream World.



                                            Only reason to remake Hoenn at this point is to update the story and graphics (latter would also be reason for another R/B remake)((Funnily enough I told this to a manager at Gamestop and ended up getting a rant on how and why they should remake Yellow XD))

                                            But as for my reason for posting, Pokemon isn't a reason for a remake as almost all are available. Though they don't really need to remake any game at all. They just do it for the money.
                                            Are you just talking gen 3 remakes? I thought we needed gen 1 an 2 remakes to get pokemon that wasn't able to be caught in gen 3 and 4. And i don't think they do it just for a cash grab. The remakes they made were of good quality. To this date heartgold is my favorite pokemon game. The only thing is I wish it had some of gen 5 mechanics ( such as reusable TM's) and faster battles
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                                              Not sure if it's been brought up or if I'm even in the right Remake conversation but they need to remake the classics yellow, red and blue for 3ds. I'd buy them all.
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