ROM Hacks Studio The ROM Hacks Studio — once known as our “Hacks Showcase” — is the best place on the web to find ROM hacks. Browse our curated collection, all made by PokéCommunity members: patch, play, and enjoy!

TrollandToad.com
Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #3026    
Old September 30th, 2012 (9:43 PM).
Jambo51's Avatar
Jambo51 Jambo51 is offline
Glory To Arstotzka
     
    Join Date: Jun 2009
    Gender: Male
    Nature: Quiet
    Posts: 732
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sofnyx View Post
    So I'm raising a dragon team. Get an adamant bagon and dratini only to find out dragon claw fly crunch and fire ice and thunder punch are all based on special.... feel like I've wasted 10 hours.. modest pokemon in this game are op
    None of those moves are special, they're all defined as Physical. We've answered this question a million times now.
    __________________
    Hey guys, please check out my recreations of the gen 1 and 2 music on my custom engine at my SoundCloud! - Here!
    Reply With Quote

    Relevant Advertising!

      #3027    
    Old September 30th, 2012 (9:49 PM).
    Satoshi Ookami's Avatar
    Satoshi Ookami Satoshi Ookami is offline
    Memento Mori
    • Gold Tier
     
    Join Date: Jul 2008
    Location: Abyss of Time, Great Seal
    Age: 25
    Gender: Male
    Nature: Calm
    Posts: 14,503
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sofnyx View Post
    So I'm raising a dragon team. Get an adamant bagon and dratini only to find out dragon claw fly crunch and fire ice and thunder punch are all based on special.... feel like I've wasted 10 hours.. modest pokemon in this game are op
    They shouldn't be... LC should have Physical/Special split so those moves are supposed to be Physical.
    __________________
    ROM hacking FAQ - Read before asking how to play a hack.

    Anime List | PSN Trophy List
    Reply With Quote
      #3028    
    Old October 1st, 2012 (1:42 AM).
    XeroNos's Avatar
    XeroNos XeroNos is offline
       
      Join Date: Jan 2011
      Location: Finding new Challenges !!
      Age: 28
      Gender: Male
      Nature: Brave
      Posts: 3,015
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Sofnyx View Post
      So I'm raising a dragon team. Get an adamant bagon and dratini only to find out dragon claw fly crunch and fire ice and thunder punch are all based on special.... feel like I've wasted 10 hours.. modest pokemon in this game are op
      The same problems i faced regarding the facts about physical/special splits. At long last and after many battles surveys I believed the creators
      Reply With Quote
        #3029    
      Old October 1st, 2012 (5:06 AM).
      Sofnyx Sofnyx is offline
         
        Join Date: Apr 2009
        Location: Truro UK
        Gender:
        Nature: Naughty
        Posts: 37
        LaZ is wrong then when a 54 Salamence can't 1 shot a 38 quagsire with dragon claw something is wrong
        I'm tempted to just start again and get a modest team
        __________________
        FC ~ 1204 5620 8633 (platinum)
        Reply With Quote
          #3030    
        Old October 1st, 2012 (9:24 AM).
        Jambo51's Avatar
        Jambo51 Jambo51 is offline
        Glory To Arstotzka
           
          Join Date: Jun 2009
          Gender: Male
          Nature: Quiet
          Posts: 732
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Sofnyx View Post
          LaZ is wrong then when a 54 Salamence can't 1 shot a 38 quagsire with dragon claw something is wrong
          I'm tempted to just start again and get a modest team
          Evidence, since you choose not to believe one of the creators of the hack.
          Spoiler:






          All of these, as you can plainly see, are set to Physical. The code reads them as Physical, and the calculations run on them are the Physical ones. There is the potential that something in your particular setup is bugged out, but the moves, as you can plainly see, are PHYSICAL.
          __________________
          Hey guys, please check out my recreations of the gen 1 and 2 music on my custom engine at my SoundCloud! - Here!
          Reply With Quote
            #3031    
          Old October 1st, 2012 (9:48 AM).
          Cyclone's Avatar
          Cyclone Cyclone is offline
          Eye of the Storm
             
            Join Date: Jul 2012
            Gender: Male
            Posts: 3,392
            I don't believe I've seen many better uses for the words "So there" than this. There's your proof they're physical attacks. As they should be.

            Cyclone
            __________________
            "Y'know...my Emolga really wants to shock your Dedenne."

            Cyclone. FC: 2079-8536-2160. Safari on X (5327-1949-9511): Lampent, Pumpkaboo, and Golurk (Ghost). Champion of the GC11 Pokémon Challenge!
            Breeder extraordinaire. Semi-competent battler.

            Building an event collection. If you want to help my sickness, ask what I have to trade!

            Reply With Quote
              #3032    
            Old October 1st, 2012 (10:34 AM).
            Sofnyx Sofnyx is offline
               
              Join Date: Apr 2009
              Location: Truro UK
              Gender:
              Nature: Naughty
              Posts: 37
              So why does amnesia make it weaker then...... I'm not saying this to troll... I think this hack is great at the start it was a real challenge I only beat the 1st gym Cauz I cursed pidgeotto and spammed potions maybe amnesia is bugged? But I'm not the only one saying it.. if anything I would like it to be harder in not even in victory road and I have 4 lvl 50+ I sweep all gyms since morty
              __________________
              FC ~ 1204 5620 8633 (platinum)
              Reply With Quote
                #3033    
              Old October 2nd, 2012 (12:26 AM).
              Jambo51's Avatar
              Jambo51 Jambo51 is offline
              Glory To Arstotzka
                 
                Join Date: Jun 2009
                Gender: Male
                Nature: Quiet
                Posts: 732
                Quote:
                Originally Posted by Sofnyx View Post
                So why does amnesia make it weaker then...... I'm not saying this to troll... I think this hack is great at the start it was a real challenge I only beat the 1st gym Cauz I cursed pidgeotto and spammed potions maybe amnesia is bugged? But I'm not the only one saying it.. if anything I would like it to be harder in not even in victory road and I have 4 lvl 50+ I sweep all gyms since morty
                Some of the background code is known to be buggy, remind me what Amnesia actually does?

                As to the other complaint, it's true of just about any Pokémon game, after a certain point, the game becomes incredibly easy. It's very hard to make it more challenging without making it cheap, unfortunately.
                __________________
                Hey guys, please check out my recreations of the gen 1 and 2 music on my custom engine at my SoundCloud! - Here!
                Reply With Quote
                  #3034    
                Old October 2nd, 2012 (1:22 AM).
                XeroNos's Avatar
                XeroNos XeroNos is offline
                   
                  Join Date: Jan 2011
                  Location: Finding new Challenges !!
                  Age: 28
                  Gender: Male
                  Nature: Brave
                  Posts: 3,015
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by Jambo51 View Post
                  Some of the background code is known to be buggy, remind me what Amnesia actually does?

                  As to the other complaint, it's true of just about any Pokémon game, after a certain point, the game becomes incredibly easy. It's very hard to make it more challenging without making it cheap, unfortunately.
                  As far as I know, Amnesia raises users Sp. def
                  Reply With Quote
                    #3035    
                  Old October 2nd, 2012 (4:15 AM).
                  Cyclone's Avatar
                  Cyclone Cyclone is offline
                  Eye of the Storm
                     
                    Join Date: Jul 2012
                    Gender: Male
                    Posts: 3,392
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by alienhunterx View Post
                    As far as I know, Amnesia raises users Sp. def
                    You are correct.

                    It's actually not as bad as moves like "Harden", strangely, as most moves I use early on are Physical. I will use Special moves at higher levels.

                    Cyclone
                    __________________
                    "Y'know...my Emolga really wants to shock your Dedenne."

                    Cyclone. FC: 2079-8536-2160. Safari on X (5327-1949-9511): Lampent, Pumpkaboo, and Golurk (Ghost). Champion of the GC11 Pokémon Challenge!
                    Breeder extraordinaire. Semi-competent battler.

                    Building an event collection. If you want to help my sickness, ask what I have to trade!

                    Reply With Quote
                      #3036    
                    Old October 2nd, 2012 (4:49 AM).
                    Sofnyx Sofnyx is offline
                       
                      Join Date: Apr 2009
                      Location: Truro UK
                      Gender:
                      Nature: Naughty
                      Posts: 37
                      Yeah it used it and my fly and dragon claw became weaker maybe the E4 could just be on a whole new level
                      __________________
                      FC ~ 1204 5620 8633 (platinum)
                      Reply With Quote
                        #3037    
                      Old October 2nd, 2012 (5:03 AM).
                      Satoshi Ookami's Avatar
                      Satoshi Ookami Satoshi Ookami is offline
                      Memento Mori
                      • Gold Tier
                       
                      Join Date: Jul 2008
                      Location: Abyss of Time, Great Seal
                      Age: 25
                      Gender: Male
                      Nature: Calm
                      Posts: 14,503
                      Then that's probably bug in your version. If Amnesia really weakened DC then it's clearly a Special based move.
                      __________________
                      ROM hacking FAQ - Read before asking how to play a hack.

                      Anime List | PSN Trophy List
                      Reply With Quote
                        #3038    
                      Old October 2nd, 2012 (5:33 AM).
                      Sofnyx Sofnyx is offline
                         
                        Join Date: Apr 2009
                        Location: Truro UK
                        Gender:
                        Nature: Naughty
                        Posts: 37
                        yeah thats why i raged i have an adamant dragon team and my physical moves do special dmg ;/
                        __________________
                        FC ~ 1204 5620 8633 (platinum)
                        Reply With Quote
                          #3039    
                        Old October 2nd, 2012 (10:07 AM).
                        Jambo51's Avatar
                        Jambo51 Jambo51 is offline
                        Glory To Arstotzka
                           
                          Join Date: Jun 2009
                          Gender: Male
                          Nature: Quiet
                          Posts: 732
                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by Sofnyx View Post
                          yeah thats why i raged i have an adamant dragon team and my physical moves do special dmg ;/
                          What version of LC are you using? There was a bug in 3.1 where what you're saying happened, but it should've been fixed.

                          The whole Physical/Special split is to be overhauled in the near future in any case, so hopefully that will help fix this and the other bugs known to exist, but it's not something we plan to do at the drop of a hat, because it needs to be made obvious to you guys, the players. It's likely something we will do before the release of RC1, potentially later this year.

                          My point, in any case, wasn't that you were wrong about a potential bug, it was that you were wrong about the moves being categorised wrongly, which they are not. I hope you understand where I'm coming from with that statement.
                          __________________
                          Hey guys, please check out my recreations of the gen 1 and 2 music on my custom engine at my SoundCloud! - Here!
                          Reply With Quote
                            #3040    
                          Old October 2nd, 2012 (10:35 AM).
                          Sofnyx Sofnyx is offline
                             
                            Join Date: Apr 2009
                            Location: Truro UK
                            Gender:
                            Nature: Naughty
                            Posts: 37
                            Yeah I get you and it's 3.1 I'm playing I don't want to raise my adamant extremespeed dratini only to find its bugged and weak as a feebas....
                            __________________
                            FC ~ 1204 5620 8633 (platinum)
                            Reply With Quote
                              #3041    
                            Old October 2nd, 2012 (12:25 PM).
                            Jambo51's Avatar
                            Jambo51 Jambo51 is offline
                            Glory To Arstotzka
                               
                              Join Date: Jun 2009
                              Gender: Male
                              Nature: Quiet
                              Posts: 732
                              Quote:
                              Originally Posted by Sofnyx View Post
                              Yeah I get you and it's 3.1 I'm playing I don't want to raise my adamant extremespeed dratini only to find its bugged and weak as a feebas....
                              Yeah, that was a bug which existed in 3.1's release, but was fixed shortly after said release. 3.2 doesn't have that bug, and also has cleaned up many of the other bugs in the game.
                              __________________
                              Hey guys, please check out my recreations of the gen 1 and 2 music on my custom engine at my SoundCloud! - Here!
                              Reply With Quote
                                #3042    
                              Old October 2nd, 2012 (11:15 PM).
                              Satoshi Ookami's Avatar
                              Satoshi Ookami Satoshi Ookami is offline
                              Memento Mori
                              • Gold Tier
                               
                              Join Date: Jul 2008
                              Location: Abyss of Time, Great Seal
                              Age: 25
                              Gender: Male
                              Nature: Calm
                              Posts: 14,503
                              Quote:
                              Originally Posted by Sofnyx View Post
                              Yeah I get you and it's 3.1 I'm playing I don't want to raise my adamant extremespeed dratini only to find its bugged and weak as a feebas....
                              Then patch new ROM with 3.2 patch and use your 3.1 save that has the Adamant Dragons you are so proud of.
                              __________________
                              ROM hacking FAQ - Read before asking how to play a hack.

                              Anime List | PSN Trophy List
                              Reply With Quote
                                #3043    
                              Old October 3rd, 2012 (1:21 AM).
                              XeroNos's Avatar
                              XeroNos XeroNos is offline
                                 
                                Join Date: Jan 2011
                                Location: Finding new Challenges !!
                                Age: 28
                                Gender: Male
                                Nature: Brave
                                Posts: 3,015
                                Yeah please do fix bug of that move tutor in Golden Rod city too. Many people have complained about him too.. you know he does not teaches you Dragon Claw any more if you beat the Elites already...
                                Reply With Quote
                                  #3044    
                                Old October 3rd, 2012 (5:15 AM).
                                Jambo51's Avatar
                                Jambo51 Jambo51 is offline
                                Glory To Arstotzka
                                   
                                  Join Date: Jun 2009
                                  Gender: Male
                                  Nature: Quiet
                                  Posts: 732
                                  Quote:
                                  Originally Posted by Ash493 View Post
                                  Then patch new ROM with 3.2 patch and use your 3.1 save that has the Adamant Dragons you are so proud of.
                                  You can't do this, the game won't let you, it deletes the game save as soon as you load it up. Don't attempt to get round it using savestates, because you will find everything is screwed up if you do.

                                  He'll just have to go through the buggy 3.1, and accept that the move damage calculations aren't right, or start a brand new game on 3.2.
                                  __________________
                                  Hey guys, please check out my recreations of the gen 1 and 2 music on my custom engine at my SoundCloud! - Here!
                                  Reply With Quote
                                    #3045    
                                  Old October 3rd, 2012 (1:36 PM).
                                  Hound of Justice Hound of Justice is offline
                                  Banned
                                     
                                    Join Date: Aug 2012
                                    Location: Stealing Ash's Pikachu with Meowth
                                    Age: 24
                                    Gender: Male
                                    Nature: Naughty
                                    Posts: 1,082
                                    Hello does this hack have unown dex
                                    Reply With Quote
                                      #3046    
                                    Old October 4th, 2012 (1:24 AM). Edited October 4th, 2012 by XeroNos.
                                    XeroNos's Avatar
                                    XeroNos XeroNos is offline
                                       
                                      Join Date: Jan 2011
                                      Location: Finding new Challenges !!
                                      Age: 28
                                      Gender: Male
                                      Nature: Brave
                                      Posts: 3,015
                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by ElitePokes View Post
                                      Hello does this hack have unown dex
                                      No my good friend I am afraid its not. No matter how many Unowns you catch the dex will show only 1

                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by Jambo51 View Post
                                      You can't do this, the game won't let you, it deletes the game save as soon as you load it up. Don't attempt to get round it using savestates, because you will find everything is screwed up if you do.

                                      He'll just have to go through the buggy 3.1, and accept that the move damage calculations aren't right, or start a brand new game on 3.2.
                                      I doubt that Jambo. Because I used the old save from 3.1 to play the cave of wisdom in 3.2
                                      Reply With Quote
                                        #3047    
                                      Old October 4th, 2012 (1:42 AM).
                                      Satoshi Ookami's Avatar
                                      Satoshi Ookami Satoshi Ookami is offline
                                      Memento Mori
                                      • Gold Tier
                                       
                                      Join Date: Jul 2008
                                      Location: Abyss of Time, Great Seal
                                      Age: 25
                                      Gender: Male
                                      Nature: Calm
                                      Posts: 14,503
                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by Jambo51 View Post
                                      You can't do this, the game won't let you, it deletes the game save as soon as you load it up. Don't attempt to get round it using savestates, because you will find everything is screwed up if you do.

                                      He'll just have to go through the buggy 3.1, and accept that the move damage calculations aren't right, or start a brand new game on 3.2.
                                      Ouchie... didn't know that o.O So 3.1 and 3.2 are that different... I can't imagine that...
                                      If he saves in any PC and goes out, everything should be changed...
                                      __________________
                                      ROM hacking FAQ - Read before asking how to play a hack.

                                      Anime List | PSN Trophy List
                                      Reply With Quote
                                        #3048    
                                      Old October 4th, 2012 (6:27 AM).
                                      Cyclone's Avatar
                                      Cyclone Cyclone is offline
                                      Eye of the Storm
                                         
                                        Join Date: Jul 2012
                                        Gender: Male
                                        Posts: 3,392
                                        Quote:
                                        Originally Posted by Ash493 View Post
                                        Ouchie... didn't know that o.O So 3.1 and 3.2 are that different... I can't imagine that...
                                        If he saves in any PC and goes out, everything should be changed...
                                        I'll agree with that. I've done some fixing and mucking around to another hack and copied it in while save-stated in the PC. I change ROMs and back and head outside, and the changes take effect immediately. My only guesses are that's not 3.1 OR the single area is so vastly different. Save state in a PC then change around and see what happens.

                                        Cyclone
                                        __________________
                                        "Y'know...my Emolga really wants to shock your Dedenne."

                                        Cyclone. FC: 2079-8536-2160. Safari on X (5327-1949-9511): Lampent, Pumpkaboo, and Golurk (Ghost). Champion of the GC11 Pokémon Challenge!
                                        Breeder extraordinaire. Semi-competent battler.

                                        Building an event collection. If you want to help my sickness, ask what I have to trade!

                                        Reply With Quote
                                          #3049    
                                        Old October 4th, 2012 (7:26 AM). Edited October 4th, 2012 by Jambo51.
                                        Jambo51's Avatar
                                        Jambo51 Jambo51 is offline
                                        Glory To Arstotzka
                                           
                                          Join Date: Jun 2009
                                          Gender: Male
                                          Nature: Quiet
                                          Posts: 732
                                          Quote:
                                          Originally Posted by alienhunterx View Post
                                          No my good friend I am afraid its not. No matter how many Unowns you catch the dex will show only 1
                                          Actually, we are working on an Unown Dex. I shan't say any more right now however.

                                          Quote:
                                          Originally Posted by alienhunterx View Post
                                          I doubt that Jambo. Because I used the old save from 3.1 to play the cave of wisdom in 3.2
                                          More fool you then. As one of the developers, I can 100% assure you that Beta 3.1 is NOT compatible with 3.2. Ignore my warnings at your own peril, and don't whine about events not working when they inevitably break, because we gave you all fair warning.

                                          Quote:
                                          Originally Posted by CycloneGU View Post
                                          I'll agree with that. I've done some fixing and mucking around to another hack and copied it in while save-stated in the PC. I change ROMs and back and head outside, and the changes take effect immediately. My only guesses are that's not 3.1 OR the single area is so vastly different. Save state in a PC then change around and see what happens.

                                          Cyclone
                                          No listen to me, it's a more fundamental change than that. It's down to repointing vars/flags to a completely new memory location. If you use the in game save (which you should all be doing, because savestates can cause bugs!), the game refuses to load your save. If you go round it using savestates, don't expect help from us when it inevitably breaks!

                                          One final time, a beta 3.1 save is in No way usable on beta 3.2. Stop asking if it is possible, and stop advising people that it is, because it is NOT
                                          __________________
                                          Hey guys, please check out my recreations of the gen 1 and 2 music on my custom engine at my SoundCloud! - Here!
                                          Reply With Quote
                                            #3050    
                                          Old October 4th, 2012 (8:32 AM).
                                          miksy91's Avatar
                                          miksy91 miksy91 is offline
                                          Dark Energy is back in action! ;)
                                             
                                            Join Date: Oct 2008
                                            Location: A small country in the North
                                            Gender: Male
                                            Nature: Relaxed
                                            Posts: 1,438
                                            I don't know whether you've done this but wouldn't it be a good idea to share information on how to make beta 3.1 save file compatible with 3.2 rom file? Yeah, you probably don't want anyone to know how to hack flags that easily but for the ones who'd like to continue with their old save file, this thing would come in handy (especially, if wanting to continue with beta 3.1 save file with beta 4).

                                            Once again, more assumptions here based on what you told in your latest post which makes it feel possible and user-friendly to be done... If you did more than changing the ram locations where the flag bits and variables are saved, doing this won't of course work nicely enough.

                                            Heck, you don't have to answer me if you feel annoyed by seeing me pointing this out now. But I'm just saying it because with GB, such thing done with WRAM wouldn't be so bad it couldn't be done (even by a beginner with a step-by-step tutorial).
                                            __________________
                                            My Rom Hack



                                            Fixing bugs in a ROM hack
                                            CP of encountered pokemon in GO

                                            Learn how to hack GB/C games:

                                            Check my GameBoy/Color hacking videos in Youtube
                                            -The video set uses Pokemon Silver (U) rom for demonstrations
                                            Reply With Quote
                                            Reply

                                            Quick Reply

                                            Join the conversation!

                                            Create an account to post a reply in this thread, participate in other discussions, and more!

                                            Create a PokéCommunity Account

                                            Sponsored Links
                                            Thread Tools

                                            Posting Rules
                                            You may not post new threads
                                            You may not post replies
                                            You may not post attachments
                                            You may not edit your posts

                                            BB code is On
                                            Smilies are On
                                            [IMG] code is On
                                            HTML code is Off

                                            Forum Jump


                                            All times are GMT -8. The time now is 1:59 PM.