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View Poll Results: Who was the hardest Champion?
Blue 14 20.29%
Lance 8 11.59%
Steven 10 14.49%
Wallace 2 2.90%
Cynthia 31 44.93%
Alder 0 0%
Iris 4 5.80%
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Old September 21st, 2012 (6:13 PM).
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I've yet to face Iris, but Cynthia is hardest for me by far. Her Garchomp is an utter beast, topped off with Pokémon like Spiritomb, she really doesn't make it an easy fight. But I love that since it makes beating the league so much more of an achievement :3 Steven also gets an honourable mention though for being a badass with Steel types, he really knows how to show off their best traits.
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I haven't played B2W2 yet so I can't say Iris but judging on her levels more so in Challenge mode, I can see she could be quite a threat. However I've voted for Cynthia since two or more of her Pokemon have gave me problems on several occasions.
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In recent years I think Cynthia was the hardest champion, in DP. She was downlevelled a bit in Platinum, so first time around she wasn't so hard, but in Pearl.. Wow. Having a level 66 Garchomp was just.. aaaah. The first time around I didn't have any Ice types, so there was just no easy way around it. I guess Lance was pretty hard to beat in HGSS for his rematch, seeing as he had at least 2 Pseudo-legendaries, and they were all in their 70s. I guess in FRLG, Blue was pretty hard to beat for his rematch. And then Wallace wasn't too easy either.

I've named a lot of them but I guess Cynthia in DP was the hardest, overall.
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    Cynthia was terribly strong,I mean pre-e4,lv66 garchomp in dp,really?<_<
    Iris was kinda hard too,I never battled her in post-game.
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    Old September 22nd, 2012 (5:43 PM).
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      As for Iris, I've never battled her as a champion, so I wouldn't know.
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      Old September 28th, 2012 (5:22 AM).
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        Cynthia is the hardest for me. Her Milotic is nightmare for me
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        Old September 29th, 2012 (5:04 AM).
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        Well, as I mentioned last time, Cynthia is, in my experience, the haredest champion of them all. I had a hard time with Blue back in R/B/Y, though what was different with him was that I knew his team, his attacks, what Pokemon to use against which and such, however with Cynthia, all you had learned about her was how you were constantly reminded throughout the game of how strong a trainer she was, and that did also prove to be true. Her team was of really varied types, throwing in her Spiritomb with no weaknesses just to be a jerk, and Wallace's Milotic might've been a challenge, but hell, Cynthia had one too, together with also having a Gabite. And the E4 had already been pretty hard, and it was only luck the first time I beat her tbh :/
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          I can't decide between Cynthia and Lance. Cynthia just had a great team especially with Milotic and Garchomp. Lance is hacked with having a 3 underleveled Dragonites and every time I rematch him, I always get near constant critical hits and/or his pokemon surviving on barely a skin of HP so that he can use a Full Restore.
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          Cynthia was so tough. Her dang Milotic and Spiritomb. Bad memories.
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            The only one I've ever had any problems with before was Lance because of all of his Dragonite. They were so powerful, and unless I had a Pokemon with an Ice or Dragon attack, it was hard to beat him. I never had problems with any other Champion, not even Cynthia.
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              Cynthia was the hardest for me probably because I was new to pokemon and just caught pokemon on a whim so my team was pretty lame. Alder was a joke. He was super easy.
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                I know this might not count, but Red in HG/SS and GSC was BEASTLY!!!!

                Other than him, I would have to say Blue/Gary in FR/LG when fighting him the second time around. If you don't do some heavy training in the Sevii Islands after you beat him the first time, he'll literally CRUSH YOU!!!
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                  I haven't gotten to Iris yet in White two so I guess I have to leave full judgment open until then. However up to this point as much as I love Lance and his awesomeness I would have to say Cynthia.
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                    I'd say Iris. Her Challenge Mode team are so powered I always get nervous fighting her, even with Lv 100. Her Haxorus is what I fear the most, due to having Dragon Dance, Outrage and holding a Focus Sash!? NO OTHER region Champion ever had their strongest Pokemon holding a Focus Sash!
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                      Iris is very easy. Cynthia is the hardest with the round 2 rival from frlg a close second.
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                        Lance from the Johto Elite 4 was the hardest. For some reason my Pokemon were always underleveled by the time I got to the E4, and none of the starters were very effective against a Dragonite.
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                          Like everyone else, I think that Cynthia is the hardest champion hands down. Her Spiritomb and Gastrodon are tough to take down. Her Milotic is annoyingly bulky and is usually able to take down at least 2-3 of my Pokemon. And of course, her Garchomp is absolutely monstrous to any unprepared handheld team.

                          I don't think any of the other champions ever came close to being as difficult as Cynthia.
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                            I haven't made it to Iris yet so not her yet, but unlike a lot other posts I found Steven in pokemon Sapphire the hardest champion to beat.
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                              I'm gonna go with Cynthia. Playing through Yellow a few months back, I realized that Blue was really nothing. His movesets were crap so even if you were underlevel, you will still be alright. It's been a long time since I got to him in FRLG though, so I can't really compare the two, but it can't be much worse. Cynthia on the other hand was the first time since Blue that we had a Champion with a mixed team and no set type. And let's not forget the team includes Garchomp, Milotic, and Togekiss. Yikes.

                              Iris and Alder...well...they suck. Alder has a pretty decent weakness to Fire and Iris...I had no trouble with her in my Japanese Black 2, despite not even being able to read a thing she was doing. I still beat her without losing any Pokemon, and I was slightly underlevel compared to her, if memory serves. So, overall, in order of most difficult to least:

                              Cynthia > Lance > Wallace > Steven > Alder > Blue > Iris
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                                I haven't played D/P/Pt; so Iris, for all I can recall. More or less, her team could only have a higher average BST if it included Arcanine or went into ubers.
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                                  Even though lance was underleveled I always ended up getting destroyed by him. His Dragonite was a handful.
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                                    Blue in FRLG for me.

                                    That was maybe because when I was young, I only focused training on one Pokemon, which was Venusaur, my starter, Venusaur practically owned everyone in the E4, but when we were facing Blue, his Charizard owned the hell out of my Venusaur with just one flamethrower. (orjustanyrandomfiremove) And after that, the result was clear, I LOST.
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                                      For me it has to be Steven or Blue. Blue is a real psycho ***** to fight, and that music only raises the nervousness that you know you are gonna get your ass beaten. And in fire red when you rematch him he is probably the most psycho crazy man in the world. As for steven, it took me soooooo many tries to beat him when I first went through ruby. Especially since my strongest pokemon was my lvl 100 swellow.
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                                        Well like everyone else(mostly) i'm voting for cynthia. Her team in DP were rediculously powerfu(pokemon, move and level wise) and it took me quite a few times to beat her. She was slightly power down in platinum but it was still very difficult...and frustrating *shiver*. But when I beat her it felt like a great acheivement. After her i'd say Blue for my FL/LG run. I dont think I ever fought steve :/, wallace was easy for me cuz of meh Manetric, lance was somewhat of a challenge tbh, and the only difficult part about about Iris was Haxorus.

                                        ....Oh yea Aldar. Yea he was no challenge at all and looking at the poll I view it hilarious as he has not one vote.

                                        But again, Cynthia was hands down the true champion...until I beat her bout 4 restarts later.
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