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Old October 26th, 2012 (8:00 PM).
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    I don't think it is ever ok to ever be nude ever.
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    Old October 27th, 2012 (12:53 AM).
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      i'll tell you my opinion in that case...body is already an art made by God..you don't have to show it because opinions won't change that truth.....most of the people who talk about nudity like it because it's a nude person so they feel like wow a nude "specially girls" come and look...they might even can't draw or even if they can...the artist can draw a nude body from his\her imagination not because they want to see a nude body but because they like what they draw...it's the will of the nude person that motive them to draw nudity cuz artistsloves to draw anything not a special thing!
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      again..human body itself is an art made by god we don't need to draw it as it's already an art and exists
      As a neutralist I don't personally believe in higher entities but I respect and understand that others do.
      I know that artists from hundreds of years ago especially during the renaissance era, were painting and sculpting naked people because they saw the human body as the most beautiful art made by god. They wanted to put that into our own cultural form of art as a tribute to the creator of such beauty, or even to have images of humans as they were during the time when Christianity was a huge influence in that area at the time.
      They may have thought that the closest they could get to replicating (and subconsciously growing closer to) god would be through art, and what better to paint than his greatest creation.


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      I don't think it is ever ok to ever be nude ever.
      You're condemning 20,000 years of human generations because they hadn't invented clothes yet.
      The only reason you are here right now, is because your parents did the nasty and they more than likely weren't wearing clothes. I'm sorry but you have no argument until everyone wears adult diapers, showers in their clothes and can make test tube babies without expense.
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      Old October 27th, 2012 (1:01 AM).
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        As a neutralist I don't personally believe in higher entities but I respect and understand that others do.
        I know that artists from hundreds of years ago especially during the renaissance era, were painting and sculpting naked people because they saw the human body as the most beautiful art made by god. They wanted to put that into our own cultural form of art as a tribute to the creator of such beauty, or even to have images of humans as they were during the time when Christianity was a huge influence in that area at the time.
        They may have thought that the closest they could get to replicating (and subconsciously growing closer to) god would be through art, and what better to paint than his greatest creation.




        You're condemning 20,000 years of human generations because they hadn't invented clothes yet.
        The only reason you are here right now, is because your parents did the nasty and they more than likely weren't wearing clothes. I'm sorry but you have no argument until everyone wears adult diapers, showers in their clothes and can make test tube babies without expense.
        My parents were definitely fully clothed thank you very much.
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        Old October 27th, 2012 (5:57 AM).
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          My parents were definitely fully clothed thank you very much.
          Haha, okay my apologies then.

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          In response to the topic, there is definitely a fine line in what is classified as art and what is pornography. Personally I find being nude in front of others who are fully clothed to be very confronting. But if no one is wearing anything then there's no problem.

          Of course you have to be aware of participating in nude art that somewhere someone will have that picture or painting. So be careful when asked to flash on Omegle or something because Print screen is not art.
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          Old October 28th, 2012 (12:38 AM). Edited October 28th, 2012 by Patchisou Yutohru.
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          If some of you feel the way you do about nudity in art, I don't know how you're going to react when you find out that erotic photography is a form of art.

          What art is (by that I mean the medium, like paintings and sculpture, and forms, like abstract and cubism) is defined by society, not individual. Though you may not find it to be art, or you may not get it. That doesn't matter because society as a whole dictates what is art. That's just basic Art History 101. People seem to mistake beauty for art.

          I'm slightly concerned that some feel the way they do about seeing a nude human body, when that's actually our most natural state. I guess that's what happens when we live in a world where we cover our bodies up and it isn't socially acceptable to walk around in the nude in most of our cultures. Strange considering the original purpose of clothing was to protect the body from nature. Really unsettling that its grown to become so sexualized, the thought of someone being naked.
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          Old October 28th, 2012 (3:53 PM).
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            Depends on what the context is. If it's nudity for the sake of nudity, it is not art. It needs to have the elements of art and it needs to be thoughtful or purposeful (example is an anatomy study) ; you can tell when art is not thoughtful.

            And yes, I also did draw nudes almost every day for 4 years at my art university. If it wasn't for them, I would be at a lower level or understanding of art and the human body. Life studies are very important.
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            Honestly, I think it's great art.

            I'm a bit too young to know these things, but I'm an aspiring artist, so I have to. Anyways, I don't think it's as bad as porn. Yeah, sure, the people are nude, but it doesn't have to be in a bad way. It could be art in a good way, if that makes any sense. I don't think it's wrong to show off your body, because it's natural. The human body is art, and whoever disagrees with that disagrees with most of us.
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            Old November 5th, 2012 (4:21 AM).
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            It's boobs and a vagina if you have a problem with it you really have to grow up.
            or a penis.

            But quite frankly you're right if you (people) are that terrified of nudity and HAVE to view it in a sexual context then chances are that you're the perverted one not the artist.
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            I don't think it is ever ok to ever be nude ever.
            Why? People are born naked, not wearing a full set of clothes. Nudity is the human body's most natural state, clothing is a man made invention, not natural,also, people don't bathe with clothes on, that would be silly, as the purpose is washing your body, it would be difficult to do this while wearing clothing.
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            Old November 14th, 2012 (8:05 AM). Edited November 14th, 2012 by Mononoke Hime.
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              If someone see porn in every nude body, or in every glutes/breasts/vagina/penis, I think it's because that particular parts of the human body are told to be viewed that way and/or that person was told to view things that way.

              Nude art is NOT equal to porn, and sometimes these two categories can be mixed. Problem?
              Every artist has to learn how to draw human body, and it's not drawing it covered with clothes that this ability can be achieved.

              Our culture supress our own body, and when it is shown, there's always discussion. What a shame.

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              Why? People are born naked, not wearing a full set of clothes. Nudity is the human body's most natural state, clothing is a man made invention
              I totally agree. Nude art is here to show us what we really are and how we are in natura.
              I don't think that a painting of Brazilian native Indians is porn, I also don't think that being exposed nude is wrong, and as a matter of fact this is just one of the most beautiful art topics.
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              Old November 15th, 2012 (5:36 AM).
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              I don't care if people want to be naked and posts pics of themselves, but they shouldn't pass it off as ~*~*nude art*~*~. It is only nude art if the focus is not on the nudity, but rather art in which someone happens to be nude. There might be some exceptions but it is hard to distinguish those if everyone uses nude art as an excuse to upload porn of themselves.

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              However, I would never, ever, EVER, post pictures of myself nude xD I'd rather be burnt alive.
              yeah and this is a bit dramatic don't you think
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              Old November 15th, 2012 (1:06 PM).
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                I don't care if people want to be naked and posts pics of themselves, but they shouldn't pass it off as ~*~*nude art*~*~. It is only nude art if the focus is not on the nudity, but rather art in which someone happens to be nude. There might be some exceptions but it is hard to distinguish those if everyone uses nude art as an excuse to upload porn of themselves.
                Nude photography is more taboo than nude painting/drawing.
                There's many subcategories in this topic. It would be nice if we could discuss them separately, not mixing one in another.

                And, in my point of view, if someone takes pics of her/himself and put on the internet, it's more likely this pic is for erotic/porn purposes.
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                Old November 15th, 2012 (1:58 PM).
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                Nude photography is more taboo than nude painting/drawing.
                There's many subcategories in this topic. It would be nice if we could discuss them separately, not mixing one in another.

                And, in my point of view, if someone takes pics of her/himself and put on the internet, it's more likely this pic is for erotic/porn purposes.
                Yes and hence I was only talking about pictures, not paintings, since it regarded DeviantArt. I don't think I mentioned paintings anywhere.
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                  Yes and hence I was only talking about pictures, not paintings, since it regarded DeviantArt. I don't think I mentioned paintings anywhere.
                  I wasn't referring myself to you specifically, but to everyone who talks about this matter and end up mixing porn with erotism, and these two with "nude art" itself.
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                    Yo. Who cares about porn yo I mean leave that horny side and look at the bright side!! If you see nude but not depicting sexual stuffs yo then that means it' art yo! Exhibitionists are cool people see? Get it?

                    OH MY GOSH! DID SOMEONE HERE CAME OUT FROM THEIR MOTHER'S STOMACH WITH CLOTHES ALREADY!?
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                    Old November 15th, 2012 (9:33 PM).
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                      OH MY GOSH! DID SOMEONE HERE CAME OUT FROM THEIR MOTHER'S STOMACH WITH CLOTHES ALREADY!?
                      Despite it's not stomach, it's womb; that's the whole point of this: nude is our natural state.
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                      I wasn't referring myself to you specifically, but to everyone who talks about this matter and end up mixing porn with erotism, and these two with "nude art" itself.
                      Well don't quote me then.

                      At any rate, the fact that it's our "natural state" is a weak argument because that would mean it's okay to just walk around naked and obviously it isn't.
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                      Old November 16th, 2012 (11:48 AM).
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                        I hate clothes. No, not seeing them, but wearing them, and don't whenever possible. I personally enjoy the freedom it gives me. Clothes are too restrictive, too uncomfortable. Nudity in itself is a beautiful thing. We've been given these amazing bodies and it's truly a shame that people feel we can't be proud of them. If I could live in a nudist community year 'round. I would.

                        I reject the argument that being nude is wrong. Too me that's a silly argument. Clothing is necessary to protect our bodies from the elements. Other than that, it only serves some outdated moral code which thankfully less and less people pay any attention to. Puritanism died a long time ago. Let it stay dead and rest in peace.
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                        The human body is one of the most beautiful and amazing things on the planet. There really isn't anything to fear when it comes to being nude, and there certainly isn't anything wrong with nude art - It's art, and nudity is a very popular artisitic motif and always has been.
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                        I'm not entirely comfortable with the artistic judgment a lot of people seem to be making in this thread. "It's okay if it's ARTISTIC ENOUGH", "It's okay if it doesn't focus on the nudity", etc. is what I mean. It reminds me of the barriers that artists had to break at the end of the 19th century, where they had to prove to the artists of the time that their work was worth doing because it was so different from what they were doing at the time. Specifically @Kura, if you had been a traditional artist of that time and was shown something like this, you probably would have made the same judgment that most traditional artists of the time had made - that it was childish and didn't involve thought. I'm not so much equating that kind of art with nudity, but the judgment "if I think it's artistic enough" is the same that the judgmental artists thought before.

                        If you want it to be art, it's art. Something pornographic, explicit, can be art. Dorm Girls After Dark 3 can be artistic.
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                          I prefer a display of stylish clothing instead of full nudity because I think it enhances the beauty of a person, but that's just me.

                          I don't see anything wrong with nudity in art though, we are what we are (human) after all. It's been going on for centuries, who am I to judge? Like everything else though, it all depends on the place (D.A. was one good example where it's seen as acceptable) where it is showcased.
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                            I believe the human body to be extremely beautiful. If I had my way... the Olympics would be done naked.
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                              I find Nude Art to be a very lazy form of art because it implies that if just take a picture of or paint a nude person, it is art.
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                              I find Nude Art to be a very lazy form of art because it implies that if just take a picture of or paint a nude person, it is art.
                              I don't think I get it. How does it imply that? Ceramics are a form of art but that doesn't mean that if you take clay and stick it in an oven you've made art. Why's this different?
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