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Old October 31st, 2012 (10:17 PM). Edited October 31st, 2012 by Chrono.
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    Out of like 8 matches one of them is probably a person from the U.S. I face and the rest are Japanese people who are too good!

    My pokemon are EV trained completely and I'm not really use to the 3 pokemon only match up! But maybe you guys can help me!

    Frosslass
    Timid
    +255 Speed
    +255 SP. Atk

    Thunderwave
    Icebeam
    Confuse Ray
    Psychic

    Focus Sash

    Gardevoir
    Modest
    +255 SP Atk
    +255 Speed

    Calm Mind
    Thunderbolt
    Shadowball
    Psychic

    Spooky Plate

    Staraptor
    Adamant
    +255 Atk
    +255 Speed

    Close Combat
    Fly
    Brave Bird
    U-Turn

    Leftovers

    Blissey
    Adamant
    +255 HP
    +255 Atk

    Toxic
    Refresh
    Softboiled
    Earthquake

    Lucky Egg

    Glaceon
    Modest
    +255 Sp atk
    +255 HP

    Shadow Ball
    Ice Beam
    Substitute
    Hail

    Icy Rock

    Poliwrath
    Adamant
    +255 Atk
    +255 HP

    Payback
    Earthquake
    Poison Jab
    Dive

    Quick Claw


    I have about few others with max EV Stats: Miltank, Gallade, Honchkrow, Rhyperior, Cherrim, Weezing, Tyranitar and Alakazam.

    So can anyone help me! For example like which 3 should go together overall?
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    Old November 1st, 2012 (2:53 AM).
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    Blissey with EVs in Attack? My god, why? o.O And with Adamant nature?
    Not to mention Lucky Egg... The best item... but for in-game playing, totally useless in competitive. You should replace it with Leftrovers or something like that
    As for the attacks... As attacking move Blissey must either use Seismic Toss or something that uses her pretty decent Sp.Att. EQ is totally useless on her.

    I would give up on Blissey if I were you... your Blissey is useless with the set she has now.

    Your Poliwrath... Payback + Quick Claw is risky... since Payback's advantage lies in its 100 Power if it's used after opponent moves. If your Quick Claw works, you attack with 50 BP attack which isn't really enough as Poliwrath does not have Technician...

    Overally... you are depending too much on HP EVs without moves that would use them (by that I mean stalling)... It's one thing do a EV training but the second is to distribute EVs in correct stats...
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    Old November 1st, 2012 (6:51 AM).
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      Try taking out Blissey and replacing it with Rhyperior. Give it Rockey Helment and these moves.

      - Rock Polish
      - Earthquake
      - Stone Edge
      - Megahorn

      Jolly (If it is, if it isn't I'm trying to utilize speed here for you)
      252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

      Then switch in and make it your lead and tell me how that works out for you! If you ever encounter any problems such as Grass-, Water-, and Ground moves, I would recommend switching to Froslass and causing some major status afflictions!
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      Old November 1st, 2012 (10:45 AM). Edited November 1st, 2012 by PlatinumDude.
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      Froslass is better off setting up Spikes to support the team with entry hazards to help net some passive damage as non-Fliers/Levitators switch in. It's also a bit too frail to utilize para-flinch effectively. The main point of Froslass is to stack as many Spikes layers as possible (max. 3) before being finished off. If Froslass is down to low HP, it can use take advantage of its high Speed to use Destiny Bond to take the opponent down with it:
      -Spikes
      -Taunt
      -Ice Beam/Shadow Ball
      -Pain Split/Destiny Bond
      Nature: Timid
      EVs: 248 HP/8 SDef/252 Spe
      Item: Leftovers
      Ability: Cursed Body

      or
      -Spikes
      -Taunt
      -Destiny Bond
      -Ice Beam/Shadow Ball
      Nature: Timid
      EVs: 252 HP/4 SDef/252 Spe
      Item: Focus Sash
      Ability: Cursed Body

      While Gardevoir can set up Calm Mind, its average Speed and low defenses somewhat hold it back. Try out Alakazam instead; it hits harder and it's faster than Gardevoir too:
      -Psyshock/Psychic
      -Shadow Ball
      -Focus Blast
      -Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)/Substitute
      Nature: Timid
      EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
      Item: Focus Sash/Life Orb
      Ability: Magic Guard

      Staraptor is better off utilizing a Choice item because residual damage from Life Orb in conjunction with Brave Bird recoil shortens its time in battle:
      -Return/Double-Edge
      -Brave Bird
      -Close Combat
      -U-turn/Quick Attack
      Nature: Jolly/Adamant
      EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
      Item: Choice Scarf/Choice Band
      Ability: Intimidate

      Blissey's Attack is outright terrible. Seriously. Its base 10 Attack means that it can't do much damage with Earthquake. Lucky Egg doesn't do anything in competitive battles, since you earn no EXP there. It also has good support options out there for you to take advantage of:
      -Aromatherapy/Heal Bell/Stealth Rock
      -Thunder Wave/Toxic
      -Softboiled
      -Seismic Toss/Flamethrower
      Nature: Bold
      EVs: 4 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
      Item: Leftovers
      Ability: Natural Cure

      or
      -Wish
      -Softboiled/Protect
      -Seismic Toss/Flamethrower
      -Thunder Wave/Toxic
      Nature: Bold
      EVs: 4 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
      Item: Leftovers
      Ability: Natural Cure

      While Glaceon has high Special Attack, its shallow movepool, low Speed and bad defensive typing let it down. Since you have an Ice Pokemon in Froslass already, and given that some of your Pokemon are weak to Stealth Rock, Starmie is a solid Rapid Spinner for you to use to rid your team of hazards:
      -Hydro Pump/Surf
      -Ice Beam
      -Thunderbolt
      -Rapid Spin/Recover
      Nature: Timid
      EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
      Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
      Ability: Natural Cure

      Poliwrath is the odd man out, IMO. Sure, its bulk is rather good, but there are other Pokemon who can do its job better, like Keldeo, who happens to share the same typing as Poliwrath:
      -Hydro Pump
      -Secret Sword
      -Hidden Power (Ghost/Ice)
      -Icy Wind/Surf
      Nature: Timid
      EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
      Item: Choice Specs

      If Keldeo is banned from Random Matchup, use Terrakion instead:
      -Swords Dance
      -Rock Polish
      -Close Combat
      -Stone Edge
      Nature: Jolly
      EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
      Item: Life Orb/Air Balloon/Rock Gem

      Edit: you seem to be weak to Scizor just by looking at this team. Heatran or Volcarona can handle it nicely:

      Heatran:
      -Fire Blast
      -Earth Power
      -Hidden Power (Ice/Grass)
      -Stealth Rock/Taunt/Flame Charge/Substitute
      Nature: Modest/Timid
      EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
      Item: Life Orb/Air Balloon
      Ability: Flash Fire

      or
      -Overheat
      -Flamethrower
      -Earth Power
      -Hidden Power (Ice)/Dragon Pulse
      Nature: Timid/Modest
      EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
      Item: Choice Scarf
      Ability: Flash Fire

      or
      -Overheat/Fire Blast
      -Dragon Pulse
      -Earth Power
      -Hidden Power (Grass)/Flamethrower
      Nature: Timid/Modest
      EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
      Item: Choice Specs
      Ability: Flash Fire

      Volcarona:
      -Quiver Dance
      -Fiery Dance/Fire Blast
      -Bug Buzz
      -Rest
      Nature: Modest
      EVs: 160 HP/252 SAtk/96 Spe
      Item: Chesto Berry
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      Old November 1st, 2012 (2:15 PM).
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        Thanks for all the info guys! I stopped competitive battle before Soul Silver came out LOL I had Hypnosis + Focus Punch on Poliwrath back in the day but the accuracy for Hypnosis changed but then I wasn't really sure what to change both moves with so I used Payback and Dive. There are a bunch of pokemon out there better than most of these pokemon but ehh I kinda like UU pokemon. If I ever use Blissey again Ill make sure to change her moveset (I forgot S-Toss is actually good) and give her Staraptor's leftovers Since no pokemon can have the same item. D:

        and omg I am weak against scizor, and everyone uses him LOL Currently Im training a larvesta modest nature

        OH! I love my Rhyperior I use it way more often than my Blissey, Ill try that moveset too!

        AND EJHDJEDHJ I use to have spikes on my Frosslass I don't know why I took it off but I have been thinking about putting it back for awhile and I'll do that now.
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        Old November 2nd, 2012 (4:35 PM).
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          Hey everyone! I decided to use Alakazam and Starmie and I recorded a match!

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85l-X2Imp5o
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