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Old December 9th, 2012 (1:18 PM).
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    Ninetales @ Life Orb
    Trait: Drought
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Fire Blast
    - SolarBeam
    - Pain Split
    - Nasty Plot

    Metagross @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Agility
    - Bullet Punch
    - Earthquake
    - Zen Headbutt

    Venusaur @ Life Orb
    Trait: Chlorophyll
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Modest Nature
    - Giga Drain
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Synthesis
    - Hidden Power [Fire]

    Hydreigon @ Life Orb
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Modest Nature
    - Dark Pulse
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Fire Blast
    - Roost

    Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Mach Punch
    - Drain Punch
    - Ice Punch
    - Fire Punch

    Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
    Trait: Poison Heal
    EVs: 252 Atk / 184 HP / 72 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Fang
    - Protect
    - Swords Dance
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    Old December 9th, 2012 (3:10 PM).
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    Ninetales isn't meant to be an all-out attacker; it's meant to set up Drought if needed. Pain Split is also a shaky form of recovery:
    -Flamethrower
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Sunny Day
    -Roar/Hypnosis/Substitute
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 HP/124 Def/132 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Drought

    or
    -Sunny Day
    -Fire Blast
    -SolarBeam
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Will-o-Wisp/Nasty Plot
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Air Balloon
    Ability: Drought

    I don't think Metagross should be on a Sun team because its Fire weakness gets amplified in the sun. Heatran is a better Sun abuser:
    -Lava Plume
    -Stealth Rock/Roar
    -Will-o-Wisp/Toxic
    -Protect
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/252 SDef/8 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Fire Blast
    -Earth Power
    -Hidden Power (Ice/Grass)/Dragon Pulse
    -Stealth Rock
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Air Balloon
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Sunny Day
    -Fire Blast
    -SolarBeam
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Earth Power
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Magma Storm
    -Taunt/Substitute
    -Earth Power
    -Will-o-Wisp/Toxic/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Substitute
    -Fire Blast
    -Earth Power
    -Toxic
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Substitute
    -Torment
    -Protect
    -Lava Plume
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 244 HP/44 SDef/220 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Overheat
    -Flamethrower
    -Earth Power
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Dragon Pulse
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Overheat/Fire Blast
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Earth Power
    -Hidden Power (Grass)/Flamethrower
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Sunny Day
    -Magma Storm
    -SolarBeam
    -Earth Power/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Chople Berry/Air Balloon
    Ability: Flash Fire

    Hydreigon should generally take advantage of its very wide movepool of high-powered moves to break walls. Dragon Pulse doesn't seem to cut it, considering that Draco Meteor is more effective at wallbreaking. That, and it's currently walled by Heatran:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -Superpower
    -Earth Power/Earthquake/Roost/Dark Pulse
    Nature: Rash/Mild
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt

    or
    -Substitute
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Focus Blast
    -Fire Blast/Roost
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

    or
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast/Flamethrower
    -Focus Blast
    -U-turn/Dark Pulse
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs

    While Fire Punch is tempting for Conkeldurr to use in Sun, it doesn't add any noteworthy coverage. Payback is still the better option, as it lets Conkeldurr hit faster Psychics and Ghosts hard. Also, the EV spread of 128 HP/252 Atk/128 SDef is better to help Conkeldurr's special bulk a bit.

    I think Donphan would be a better fit over Gliscor, as it can Rapid Spin away Stealth Rock, which is a detriment to Sun teams:
    -Earthquake
    -Rapid Spin
    -Head Smash/Stone Edge
    -Ice Shard
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy

    Or you can go for Espeon, who can reflect hazards right back at the opponent with Magic Bounce:
    -Reflect
    -Light Screen
    -Psychic/Psyshock
    -Hidden Power (Fire)/Baton Pass
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Light Clay
    Ability: Magic Bounce

    Venusaur is best off using Growth to boost its offensive capabilities further:
    -Growth
    -Giga Drain/SolarBeam
    -Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Sludge Bomb/Sleep Powder
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Chlorophyll

    or
    -Sunny Day
    -Giga Drain/SolarBeam
    -Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Sludge Bomb/Sleep Powder
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Black Sludge
    Ability: Chlorophyll

    or
    -Growth
    -Seed Bomb
    -Earthquake/Return
    -Hidden Power (Fire)/Sleep Powder
    Nature: Lonely/Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Chlorophyll

    or
    -Leech Seed
    -Substitute/Protect
    -Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Sleep Powder
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 192 HP/252 Def/52 SDef/12 Spe
    Item: Black Sludge
    Ability: Chlorophyll
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