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Old December 7th, 2012 (10:37 AM).
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then ill go with Donphan, cause i was thinkng of adding Cloyster to my team, as gastrogon isnt weak to eletricly, so it wont make to bad of a double weakness

so dose Donphan learn rapid spin or is that an egg move
It's a level-up move; Donphan learns it at level 6. But considering that Phanpy evolves into Donphan at level 25, and thus making it impossible for a level 6 Donphan to happen, you'll have to go to the Move Relearner in-game and have Donphan relearn Rapid Spin. To let you know, Head Smash and Ice Shard are two of Donphan's egg moves.
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    so dose Donphan learn rapid spin or is that an egg move. im asking cause according to marriland guide, Phanpy dosnt learn rapid and Phanpy evoles at lv.25 and Donphan learns it at lv.6
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    so dose Donphan learn rapid spin or is that an egg move. im asking cause according to marriland guide, Phanpy dosnt learn rapid and Phanpy evoles at lv.25 and Donphan learns it at lv.6
    Donphan does, so you'll need to visit a move relearner as PlatDude explained. They only use a Heart Scale iirc and they'll give you Rapid Spin on it which is the only way to do it.
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    Old December 8th, 2012 (4:37 PM).
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      Old December 10th, 2012 (12:15 PM).
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        hey im not exactly sure what my rotom's learnset should be.. im stuck between to
        a "trick" rotom
        or a "pain split" rotom.

        anyway my rotom is a modest nature with an EV spread as the following
        252spA
        120HP
        136spe

        first set the "pain split" set!

        thunderbolt
        overheat
        will-o-wisp
        pain split

        now the trick set
        trick
        voltswitch
        overheat
        ? (my hidden power is not grass)

        id have to change the EV spread for the trick set to 252spa 252speed 4 spD but its not that big of a deal seeing as hes only level27. the TRICK set im worried about getting OHKO by something faster then me. and the pain split set i like but am sceptical because ive never used any sets like the two i have presented before.. feedback/ advice please! thank you

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        Old December 10th, 2012 (4:12 PM).
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        Old December 10th, 2012 (4:15 PM).
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        hey im not exactly sure what my rotom's learnset should be.. im stuck between to
        a "trick" rotom
        or a "pain split" rotom.

        anyway my rotom is a modest nature with an EV spread as the following
        252spA
        120HP
        136spe

        first set the "pain split" set!

        thunderbolt
        overheat
        will-o-wisp
        pain split

        now the trick set
        trick
        voltswitch
        overheat
        ? (my hidden power is not grass)

        id have to change the EV spread for the trick set to 252spa 252speed 4 spD but its not that big of a deal seeing as hes only level27. the TRICK set im worried about getting OHKO by something faster then me. and the pain split set i like but am sceptical because ive never used any sets like the two i have presented before.. feedback/ advice please! thank you

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        Well, your choice will depend on a few factors. Like, what items do you plan on using? Trick Rotom-H functions best with a Timid nature and Choice Scarf / Specs. So you wouldn't necessarily need to worry about being outpaced by another Pokemon.

        But this decision comes down to how Rotom-H will compliment your team. If your team is more balanced, Pain Split Rotom-H will serve you better, being bulkier with semi-reliable recovery and the ability to inflict status. However, if your team is more offense oriented and needs a good offensive pivot, Trick Rotom-H with Choice Scarf / Specs will make a strong revenge killer and makes better use of Overheat than Pain Split Rotom-H.
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          just wondering if seaking can be competitive with it lighting rod abitilty or is the poke just good for in game teams only
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          just wondering if seaking can be competitive with it lighting rod abitilty or is the poke just good for in game teams only
          Yeah not really. It's not even really used in NU, which is the lowest there is other than LC/NFE. It's attack stat is okay but its speed is quite low in comparison to the rest of NU and even its Special Attack isn't really that exciting, and there's not really many viable moves to choose from either. Plus electric types aren't that difficult to defeat, so it doesn't have that many selling points.
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          Old December 13th, 2012 (6:28 PM).
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            thanks i was just wondering.
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            Old December 14th, 2012 (1:10 PM). Edited December 15th, 2012 by Satycorn89.
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              Hi everyone!
              So I guess this is a somewhat different thread than the usual ones you see in here.
              I have already beaten the Elite Four and completed the game, well most of it, and now I'm working on creating my Competitive teams. I'm a "perfection" maniac, so I have been thinking about this for a long time, what Pokemon to use and what not. I have already chosen the Pokemon I want to use, but I need your help on deciding which Pokemon to put in a certain team with which other Pokemon.
              Here's my list:
              -Serperior
              -Leafeon
              -Haxorus
              -Dragonite
              -Garchomp
              -Probopass
              -Chansey
              -Umbreon
              -Espeon
              -Weavile
              -Glaceon
              -Eelektross
              -Gardevoir
              -Mamoswine
              -Abomasnow
              -Braviary
              -Togekiss
              -Gallade
              -Cyndaquil
              -Darmanitan
              -Tyranitar
              -Feraligatr
              -Gengar
              -Vanilluxe
              -Zoroark
              -Cranidos
              -Scizor
              -Mienshao
              -Volcarona
              -Aggron

              There is a total of 30 Pokemon, so that means 5 teams,which will be changed depending on the person I'll play with. I don't want to create type-only teams (such as only fire types, etc.), but I want to spread the Pokemon wisely instead.
              I know this is a hard work, but I am patient, you don't have to write all the EV spreads and nature of each Pokemon, just spread them on different teams based on what you think.
              I would appreciate any reply !
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              Old December 15th, 2012 (3:54 AM).
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                Hi everyone.
                So I'm building my competitive teams now, and it'll be 5 different teams, three of them will have either Espeon, Jolteon or Leafeon. I'm planning to use all three but on different teams.
                All three of them will have the egg moves Wish and Curse, and I badly want one of them with the Curse move. Which one do you suggest? I was thinking of Leafeon, but I really don't know...
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                  Don't give either one of them Curse. Jolteon is best for Special Attack and Speed. Its Attack stat is very low and I highly suggest letting it learn strong Special Attacks. Same for Espeon, but give it either Calm Mind or Light Screen/Reflect. Give Leafeon Swords Dance, it's best to give it that since it's strong and it's that strong and defensive. Giving all of them Curse will ruin their capabilites in terms of Jolteon's and Espeon's swift speed and Special Attack/Special Defense. Leafeon needs to attack that fast since it has 5 weaknesses that it needs to counter and defeat. Focus on what they're strong for and what they should be doing to be a good team. And don't give them Wish as well, only those that are walls need them, like Vaporeon and Umbreon.
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                  Old December 15th, 2012 (4:07 AM). Edited December 15th, 2012 by Satycorn89.
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                    Don't give either one of them Curse. Jolteon is best for Special Attack and Speed. Its Attack stat is very low and I highly suggest letting it learn strong Special Attacks. Same for Espeon, but give it either Calm Mind or Light Screen/Reflect. Give Leafeon Swords Dance, it's best to give it that since it's strong and it's that strong and defensive. Giving all of them Curse will ruin their capabilites in terms of Jolteon's and Espeon's swift speed and Special Attack/Special Defense. Leafeon needs to attack that fast since it has 5 weaknesses that it needs to counter and defeat. Focus on what they're strong for and what they should be doing to be a good team. And don't give them Wish as well, only those that are walls need them, like Vaporeon and Umbreon.
                    Oh I see, I really liked that move... I don't have any Pokemon that can learn it :/.. What if instead of the Jolteon I make an Umbreon/Vaporeon and teach it Wish and Curse, will that work? What moveset would you suggest?
                    For Leafeon I was thinking this:
                    -Leaf Blade
                    -Protect/Protect
                    -Curse
                    -Wish

                    Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
                    Thanks!
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                    Old December 15th, 2012 (4:13 AM).
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                      Oh I see, I really liked that move... I don't have any Pokemon that can learn it :/.. What if instead of the Jolteon I make an Umbreon and teach it Wish and Curse, will that work? What moveset would you suggest?
                      For Leafeon I was thinking this:
                      -Leaf Blade
                      -Substitute
                      -Curse
                      -Wish

                      Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
                      Thanks!

                      Leafeon should have this:

                      -Swords Dance
                      -Leaf Blade
                      -Substitute/Roar
                      -X-Scissor/Return/Iron Tail

                      Yes Umbreon would work, since it fits it. And here what it should have:

                      -Curse
                      -Wish
                      -Payback/Foul Play
                      -Roar/Toxic

                      And like I said, give it to the ones that fit it. Wait, don't give Vaporeon Curse, since it'll slow it down, Umbreon's the best idea for that.
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                        Leafeon should have this:

                        -Swords Dance
                        -Leaf Blade
                        -Substitute/Roar
                        -X-Scissor/Return/Iron Tail

                        Yes Umbreon would work, since it fits it. And here what it should have:

                        -Curse
                        -Wish
                        -Payback/Foul Play
                        -Roar/Toxic

                        And like I said, give it to the ones that fit it. Wait, don't give Vaporeon Curse, since it'll slow it down, Umbreon's the best idea for that.
                        I see, thanks. Should Umbreon have a Protect as well, so that when I use wish, use immediately Protect, which will make it evade attacks that can kill it, while Wish will still raise it's HP?
                        Also what do you mean by slowing down Umbreon is it's best idea? I've played with Eevee evolutions in 3rd Gen only, so I'm kind of a noob haha.
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                          I see, thanks. Should Umbreon have a Protect as well, so that when I use wish, use immediately Protect, which will make it evade attacks that can kill it, while Wish will still raise it's HP?
                          Also what do you mean by slowing down Umbreon is it's best idea? I've played with Eevee evolutions in 3rd Gen only, so I'm kind of a noob haha.
                          Well Umbreon can survive anyway, and Curse should help it.
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                            Oh and apparently, Umbreon doesn't learn Roar, at least that's what Serebii says ... I'll go with Toxic, then
                            Leafeon learns it instead, do you think I should teach it to him? It will help him, considering it's lost Sp Def.
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                              Oh and apparently, Umbreon doesn't learn Roar, at least that's what Serebii says ... I'll go with Toxic, then
                              Leafeon learns it instead, do you think I should teach it to him? It will help him, considering it's lost Sp Def.
                              That could work. It's at least a try.
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                                Oh okay thanks.
                                So one more thing, I need a moveset for my soon-to-be Espeon. Do you think I can use this:
                                Timid nature, with Light Clay
                                -Reflect
                                -Signal Beam
                                -Psychic
                                -Wish
                                I know many people use Baton Pass instead of Wish in this cases, but IDK, I just want to change a bit, plus Espeon is fast, so Wish might be a bit better for it...
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                                  Oh okay thanks.
                                  So one more thing, I need a moveset for my soon-to-be Espeon. Do you think I can use this:
                                  Timid nature, with Light Clay
                                  -Reflect
                                  -Signal Beam
                                  -Psychic
                                  -Wish
                                  I know many people use Baton Pass instead of Wish in this cases, but IDK, I just want to change a bit, plus Espeon is fast, so Wish might be a bit better for it...
                                  Thanks again.
                                  That's a good moveset. Espeon needs to maintain its team in order to survive, so that could work. I mean, that is a tactical strategy.
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                                    HI everyone!
                                    I'm trying to build my competitive teams and there are some Pokemon that I just can't decide if I should choose this or the other... Here's my biggest dilemmas:

                                    -Mamoswine or Abomasnow?
                                    -Milotic or Warlein?
                                    -Spiritomb or Cohagrigus? (I really like Spiritomb, but from my online research some people prefer Cohagrigus..)

                                    These are my main 3 questionmarks in my mind, I will update if I find any, however, can you help me with the movesets? I already know the EV spreads.
                                    about Milotic and Warlein, my Spheal knows Curse, Water Pulse, Yawn and Aqua Ring already as egg moves, while I have caught a wild Feebas and am now breeding it to get the desired nature and IVs.
                                    What the other babies know:
                                    Swinub:Icicle Crash, Icicle Spear, Stealth Rock, Double Edge.
                                    Snover: Avalanche, Leech Seed, Seed Bomb, Blizzard
                                    Spiritomb: Confuse Ray, Spite, Shadow Sneak, Pain Split
                                    All of the Pokemon mentioned above are Lv.1. I haven't caught a Cohagrigus yet.
                                    Thanks, any help would be appreciated.
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                                    Oh okay thanks.
                                    So one more thing, I need a moveset for my soon-to-be Espeon. Do you think I can use this:
                                    Timid nature, with Light Clay
                                    -Reflect
                                    -Signal Beam
                                    -Psychic
                                    -Wish
                                    I know many people use Baton Pass instead of Wish in this cases, but IDK, I just want to change a bit, plus Espeon is fast, so Wish might be a bit better for it...
                                    Thanks again.
                                    Espeon is meant to be a support 'mon. If you're using Reflect, you should be using Light Screen too. This is called "dual screening," which involves getting both Reflect and Light Screen up to give frail attackers a chance of surviving on the battlefield. Due to the new Wish mechanics, Espeon can't utilize it too well (Wish now restores half the user's max HP to the recipient. Say Espeon uses Wish and switches to something like Magnezone. Magnezone then gains HP equal to Espeon's max HP):
                                    -Reflect
                                    -Light Screen
                                    -Psychic/Psyshock
                                    -Hidden Power (Fire)/Baton Pass
                                    Nature: Timid
                                    EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 Spe
                                    Item: Light Clay
                                    Ability: Magic Bounce
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                                    If you're building a Hail team, Abomasnow is definitely a staple, as it sets up the required weather.

                                    Walrein is an annoying Pokémon to face off against in Hail, so you can use it.

                                    And it might be a better idea to use Cohagrigus, as it's bulkier and can do more than Spiritomb can.
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                                      I am setting up about 5 different teams, so I don't mind using one or another. And I'm not using mono type teams, I don't like that, it's going to be a mixed team, all 5 of them.
                                      What would be a good moveset for Walrein, preferably keeping Curse, as I really like it?
                                      Also, no Mamoswine? It's attack is scary!!
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