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Old December 10th, 2012 (4:15 PM).
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hey im not exactly sure what my rotom's learnset should be.. im stuck between to
a "trick" rotom
or a "pain split" rotom.

anyway my rotom is a modest nature with an EV spread as the following
252spA
120HP
136spe

first set the "pain split" set!

thunderbolt
overheat
will-o-wisp
pain split

now the trick set
trick
voltswitch
overheat
? (my hidden power is not grass)

id have to change the EV spread for the trick set to 252spa 252speed 4 spD but its not that big of a deal seeing as hes only level27. the TRICK set im worried about getting OHKO by something faster then me. and the pain split set i like but am sceptical because ive never used any sets like the two i have presented before.. feedback/ advice please! thank you

~Cyanide
Well, your choice will depend on a few factors. Like, what items do you plan on using? Trick Rotom-H functions best with a Timid nature and Choice Scarf / Specs. So you wouldn't necessarily need to worry about being outpaced by another Pokemon.

But this decision comes down to how Rotom-H will compliment your team. If your team is more balanced, Pain Split Rotom-H will serve you better, being bulkier with semi-reliable recovery and the ability to inflict status. However, if your team is more offense oriented and needs a good offensive pivot, Trick Rotom-H with Choice Scarf / Specs will make a strong revenge killer and makes better use of Overheat than Pain Split Rotom-H.
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    just wondering if seaking can be competitive with it lighting rod abitilty or is the poke just good for in game teams only
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    just wondering if seaking can be competitive with it lighting rod abitilty or is the poke just good for in game teams only
    Yeah not really. It's not even really used in NU, which is the lowest there is other than LC/NFE. It's attack stat is okay but its speed is quite low in comparison to the rest of NU and even its Special Attack isn't really that exciting, and there's not really many viable moves to choose from either. Plus electric types aren't that difficult to defeat, so it doesn't have that many selling points.
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      thanks i was just wondering.
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      Old December 14th, 2012 (1:10 PM). Edited December 15th, 2012 by Satycorn89.
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        Hi everyone!
        So I guess this is a somewhat different thread than the usual ones you see in here.
        I have already beaten the Elite Four and completed the game, well most of it, and now I'm working on creating my Competitive teams. I'm a "perfection" maniac, so I have been thinking about this for a long time, what Pokemon to use and what not. I have already chosen the Pokemon I want to use, but I need your help on deciding which Pokemon to put in a certain team with which other Pokemon.
        Here's my list:
        -Serperior
        -Leafeon
        -Haxorus
        -Dragonite
        -Garchomp
        -Probopass
        -Chansey
        -Umbreon
        -Espeon
        -Weavile
        -Glaceon
        -Eelektross
        -Gardevoir
        -Mamoswine
        -Abomasnow
        -Braviary
        -Togekiss
        -Gallade
        -Cyndaquil
        -Darmanitan
        -Tyranitar
        -Feraligatr
        -Gengar
        -Vanilluxe
        -Zoroark
        -Cranidos
        -Scizor
        -Mienshao
        -Volcarona
        -Aggron

        There is a total of 30 Pokemon, so that means 5 teams,which will be changed depending on the person I'll play with. I don't want to create type-only teams (such as only fire types, etc.), but I want to spread the Pokemon wisely instead.
        I know this is a hard work, but I am patient, you don't have to write all the EV spreads and nature of each Pokemon, just spread them on different teams based on what you think.
        I would appreciate any reply :)!
        Thanks.
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        Old December 15th, 2012 (3:54 AM).
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          Hi everyone.
          So I'm building my competitive teams now, and it'll be 5 different teams, three of them will have either Espeon, Jolteon or Leafeon. I'm planning to use all three but on different teams.
          All three of them will have the egg moves Wish and Curse, and I badly want one of them with the Curse move. Which one do you suggest? I was thinking of Leafeon, but I really don't know...
          Thanks.
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            Don't give either one of them Curse. Jolteon is best for Special Attack and Speed. Its Attack stat is very low and I highly suggest letting it learn strong Special Attacks. Same for Espeon, but give it either Calm Mind or Light Screen/Reflect. Give Leafeon Swords Dance, it's best to give it that since it's strong and it's that strong and defensive. Giving all of them Curse will ruin their capabilites in terms of Jolteon's and Espeon's swift speed and Special Attack/Special Defense. Leafeon needs to attack that fast since it has 5 weaknesses that it needs to counter and defeat. Focus on what they're strong for and what they should be doing to be a good team. And don't give them Wish as well, only those that are walls need them, like Vaporeon and Umbreon.
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            Old December 15th, 2012 (4:07 AM). Edited December 15th, 2012 by Satycorn89.
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              Don't give either one of them Curse. Jolteon is best for Special Attack and Speed. Its Attack stat is very low and I highly suggest letting it learn strong Special Attacks. Same for Espeon, but give it either Calm Mind or Light Screen/Reflect. Give Leafeon Swords Dance, it's best to give it that since it's strong and it's that strong and defensive. Giving all of them Curse will ruin their capabilites in terms of Jolteon's and Espeon's swift speed and Special Attack/Special Defense. Leafeon needs to attack that fast since it has 5 weaknesses that it needs to counter and defeat. Focus on what they're strong for and what they should be doing to be a good team. And don't give them Wish as well, only those that are walls need them, like Vaporeon and Umbreon.
              Oh I see, I really liked that move... I don't have any Pokemon that can learn it :/.. What if instead of the Jolteon I make an Umbreon/Vaporeon and teach it Wish and Curse, will that work? What moveset would you suggest?
              For Leafeon I was thinking this:
              -Leaf Blade
              -Protect/Protect
              -Curse
              -Wish

              Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
              Thanks!
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              Old December 15th, 2012 (4:13 AM).
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                Oh I see, I really liked that move... I don't have any Pokemon that can learn it :/.. What if instead of the Jolteon I make an Umbreon and teach it Wish and Curse, will that work? What moveset would you suggest?
                For Leafeon I was thinking this:
                -Leaf Blade
                -Substitute
                -Curse
                -Wish

                Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
                Thanks!

                Leafeon should have this:

                -Swords Dance
                -Leaf Blade
                -Substitute/Roar
                -X-Scissor/Return/Iron Tail

                Yes Umbreon would work, since it fits it. And here what it should have:

                -Curse
                -Wish
                -Payback/Foul Play
                -Roar/Toxic

                And like I said, give it to the ones that fit it. Wait, don't give Vaporeon Curse, since it'll slow it down, Umbreon's the best idea for that.
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                Old December 15th, 2012 (4:20 AM).
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                  Leafeon should have this:

                  -Swords Dance
                  -Leaf Blade
                  -Substitute/Roar
                  -X-Scissor/Return/Iron Tail

                  Yes Umbreon would work, since it fits it. And here what it should have:

                  -Curse
                  -Wish
                  -Payback/Foul Play
                  -Roar/Toxic

                  And like I said, give it to the ones that fit it. Wait, don't give Vaporeon Curse, since it'll slow it down, Umbreon's the best idea for that.
                  I see, thanks. Should Umbreon have a Protect as well, so that when I use wish, use immediately Protect, which will make it evade attacks that can kill it, while Wish will still raise it's HP?
                  Also what do you mean by slowing down Umbreon is it's best idea? I've played with Eevee evolutions in 3rd Gen only, so I'm kind of a noob haha.
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                    I see, thanks. Should Umbreon have a Protect as well, so that when I use wish, use immediately Protect, which will make it evade attacks that can kill it, while Wish will still raise it's HP?
                    Also what do you mean by slowing down Umbreon is it's best idea? I've played with Eevee evolutions in 3rd Gen only, so I'm kind of a noob haha.
                    Well Umbreon can survive anyway, and Curse should help it.
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                    Old December 15th, 2012 (6:02 AM).
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                      Oh and apparently, Umbreon doesn't learn Roar, at least that's what Serebii says :S... I'll go with Toxic, then :)
                      Leafeon learns it instead, do you think I should teach it to him? It will help him, considering it's lost Sp Def.
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                        Oh and apparently, Umbreon doesn't learn Roar, at least that's what Serebii says :S... I'll go with Toxic, then :)
                        Leafeon learns it instead, do you think I should teach it to him? It will help him, considering it's lost Sp Def.
                        That could work. It's at least a try.
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                          Oh okay thanks.
                          So one more thing, I need a moveset for my soon-to-be Espeon. Do you think I can use this:
                          Timid nature, with Light Clay
                          -Reflect
                          -Signal Beam
                          -Psychic
                          -Wish
                          I know many people use Baton Pass instead of Wish in this cases, but IDK, I just want to change a bit, plus Espeon is fast, so Wish might be a bit better for it...
                          Thanks again.
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                            Oh okay thanks.
                            So one more thing, I need a moveset for my soon-to-be Espeon. Do you think I can use this:
                            Timid nature, with Light Clay
                            -Reflect
                            -Signal Beam
                            -Psychic
                            -Wish
                            I know many people use Baton Pass instead of Wish in this cases, but IDK, I just want to change a bit, plus Espeon is fast, so Wish might be a bit better for it...
                            Thanks again.
                            That's a good moveset. Espeon needs to maintain its team in order to survive, so that could work. I mean, that is a tactical strategy.
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                              HI everyone!
                              I'm trying to build my competitive teams and there are some Pokemon that I just can't decide if I should choose this or the other... Here's my biggest dilemmas:

                              -Mamoswine or Abomasnow?
                              -Milotic or Warlein?
                              -Spiritomb or Cohagrigus? (I really like Spiritomb, but from my online research some people prefer Cohagrigus..)

                              These are my main 3 questionmarks in my mind, I will update if I find any, however, can you help me with the movesets? I already know the EV spreads.
                              about Milotic and Warlein, my Spheal knows Curse, Water Pulse, Yawn and Aqua Ring already as egg moves, while I have caught a wild Feebas and am now breeding it to get the desired nature and IVs.
                              What the other babies know:
                              Swinub:Icicle Crash, Icicle Spear, Stealth Rock, Double Edge.
                              Snover: Avalanche, Leech Seed, Seed Bomb, Blizzard
                              Spiritomb: Confuse Ray, Spite, Shadow Sneak, Pain Split
                              All of the Pokemon mentioned above are Lv.1. I haven't caught a Cohagrigus yet.
                              Thanks, any help would be appreciated.
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                              Oh okay thanks.
                              So one more thing, I need a moveset for my soon-to-be Espeon. Do you think I can use this:
                              Timid nature, with Light Clay
                              -Reflect
                              -Signal Beam
                              -Psychic
                              -Wish
                              I know many people use Baton Pass instead of Wish in this cases, but IDK, I just want to change a bit, plus Espeon is fast, so Wish might be a bit better for it...
                              Thanks again.
                              Espeon is meant to be a support 'mon. If you're using Reflect, you should be using Light Screen too. This is called "dual screening," which involves getting both Reflect and Light Screen up to give frail attackers a chance of surviving on the battlefield. Due to the new Wish mechanics, Espeon can't utilize it too well (Wish now restores half the user's max HP to the recipient. Say Espeon uses Wish and switches to something like Magnezone. Magnezone then gains HP equal to Espeon's max HP):
                              -Reflect
                              -Light Screen
                              -Psychic/Psyshock
                              -Hidden Power (Fire)/Baton Pass
                              Nature: Timid
                              EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 Spe
                              Item: Light Clay
                              Ability: Magic Bounce
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                              If you're building a Hail team, Abomasnow is definitely a staple, as it sets up the required weather.

                              Walrein is an annoying Pokémon to face off against in Hail, so you can use it.

                              And it might be a better idea to use Cohagrigus, as it's bulkier and can do more than Spiritomb can.
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                                I am setting up about 5 different teams, so I don't mind using one or another. And I'm not using mono type teams, I don't like that, it's going to be a mixed team, all 5 of them.
                                What would be a good moveset for Walrein, preferably keeping Curse, as I really like it?
                                Also, no Mamoswine? It's attack is scary!!
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                                  Espeon is meant to be a support 'mon. If you're using Reflect, you should be using Light Screen too. This is called "dual screening," which involves getting both Reflect and Light Screen up to give frail attackers a chance of surviving on the battlefield. Due to the new Wish mechanics, Espeon can't utilize it too well (Wish now restores half the user's max HP to the recipient. Say Espeon uses Wish and switches to something like Magnezone. Magnezone then gains HP equal to Espeon's max HP):
                                  -Reflect
                                  -Light Screen
                                  -Psychic/Psyshock
                                  -Hidden Power (Fire)/Baton Pass
                                  Nature: Timid
                                  EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 Spe
                                  Item: Light Clay
                                  Ability: Magic Bounce
                                  I was waiting for someone to say that about Espeon. The only thing why I choosed that moveset is because Espeon has a fantastic Special Attack and Speed, and it seems a waste of them to me, using the protect screens from Espeon and then switching it out... I removed Light Screen and kept it with Reflect because it's Defense is not as good as it's special defense, that's why Reflect could help Espeon... On a more offensive profile, what would you suggest?
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                                  I am setting up about 5 different teams, so I don't mind using one or another. And I'm not using mono type teams, I don't like that, it's going to be a mixed team, all 5 of them.
                                  What would be a good moveset for Walrein, preferably keeping Curse, as I really like it?
                                  Also, no Mamoswine? It's attack is scary!!
                                  You could use Mamoswine to set up Stealth Rock, or have a strong attacker on the physical end alongside Abomasnow. But to be aware, Snow Cloak is now banned alongside Hail:
                                  -Stealth Rock
                                  -Earthquake
                                  -Ice Shard
                                  -Endeavor
                                  Nature: Adamant
                                  EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
                                  Item: Focus Sash
                                  Ability: Thick Fat

                                  or
                                  -Earthquake
                                  -Icicle Crash
                                  -Ice Shard
                                  -Stone Edge
                                  Nature: Adamant/Jolly
                                  EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
                                  Item: Life Orb/Choice Band
                                  Ability: Thick Fat

                                  or
                                  -Earthquake
                                  -Icicle Spear/Icicle Crash
                                  -Stone Edge
                                  -Superpower
                                  Nature: Adamant/Jolly
                                  EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
                                  Item: Choice Scarf
                                  Ability: Thick Fat

                                  As tempting as Curse is, Walrein can't use it too well because its bad defensive typing lets it down. It's a freakin' stall machine in Hail, courtesy of Ice Body and the right moves. It should always be used with Abomasnow:
                                  -Substitute
                                  -Protect
                                  -Roar/Toxic
                                  -Blizzard/Surf
                                  Nature: Bold
                                  EVs: 232 HP/108 Def/148 Spe
                                  Item: Leftovers
                                  Ability: Ice Body

                                  Edit: here's a more offensive, yet still supportive, take on Espeon. Even with its decent Special Defense, Espeon still has a hard time taking special hits thanks to its low HP:
                                  -Calm Mind
                                  -Stored Power
                                  -Hidden Power (Fighting)
                                  -Baton Pass
                                  Nature: Timid
                                  EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 Spe
                                  Item: Leftovers
                                  Ability: Magic Bounce
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                                    You could use Mamoswine to set up Stealth Rock, or have a strong attacker on the physical end alongside Abomasnow. But to be aware, Snow Cloak is now banned alongside Hail:
                                    -Stealth Rock
                                    -Earthquake
                                    -Ice Shard
                                    -Endeavor
                                    Nature: Adamant
                                    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
                                    Item: Focus Sash
                                    Ability: Thick Fat

                                    or
                                    -Earthquake
                                    -Icicle Crash
                                    -Ice Shard
                                    -Stone Edge
                                    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
                                    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
                                    Item: Life Orb/Choice Band
                                    Ability: Thick Fat

                                    or
                                    -Earthquake
                                    -Icicle Spear/Icicle Crash
                                    -Stone Edge
                                    -Superpower
                                    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
                                    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
                                    Item: Choice Scarf
                                    Ability: Thick Fat

                                    As tempting as Curse is, Walrein can't use it too well because its bad defensive typing lets it down. It's a freakin' stall machine in Hail, courtesy of Ice Body and the right moves. It should always be used with Abomasnow:
                                    -Substitute
                                    -Protect
                                    -Roar/Toxic
                                    -Blizzard/Surf
                                    Nature: Bold
                                    EVs: 232 HP/108 Def/148 Spe
                                    Item: Leftovers
                                    Ability: Ice Body

                                    Edit: here's a more offensive, yet still supportive, take on Espeon. Even with its decent Special Defense, Espeon still has a hard time taking special hits thanks to its low HP:
                                    -Calm Mind
                                    -Stored Power
                                    -Hidden Power (Fighting)
                                    -Baton Pass
                                    Nature: Timid
                                    EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 Spe
                                    Item: Leftovers
                                    Ability: Magic Bounce
                                    I see, thanks. Those Mamoswine movesets are really good. I'm using White, so I can't get Endeavor at the moment, what is I switch it with Icicle Crash in the first moveset?

                                    Also, snap, my Spheal Has Thick Fat :(... I have already spent days getting it with the right IVs, I just can't switch to another Spheal now... Do i toss it now that it doesn't have Ice Body, or am I still able to use it well? What would you suggest?
                                    And last, about Espeon, I have IV breed it for days to, until I got the Eevee I wanted, but it's Hidden Power is Grass :/... Can I replace Hidden Power Fighting with the move Psychic?
                                    -Calm Mind
                                    -Stored Power
                                    -Hidden Power (Fighting)
                                    -Baton Pass


                                    Edit: Also I have a soon to be Froslass with Snow Cloak, what would be wise to use it with? The battles will be double ones, and I will be playing with Friends through infrared, not over Wi-Fi. Also I'm not making a mono-type team, I will be making about 2-3 mixed teams, but I can use two pokemon of the same type, as you suggested using Walrein with Abomasnow.
                                    Thank you very much!
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                                    I see, thanks. Those Mamoswine movesets are really good. I'm using White, so I can't get Endeavor at the moment, what is I switch it with Icicle Crash in the first moveset?

                                    Also, snap, my Spheal Has Thick Fat :(... I have already spent days getting it with the right IVs, I just can't switch to another Spheal now... Do i toss it now that it doesn't have Ice Body, or am I still able to use it well? What would you suggest?
                                    And last, about Espeon, I have IV breed it for days to, until I got the Eevee I wanted, but it's Hidden Power is Grass :/... Can I replace Hidden Power Fighting with the move Psychic?
                                    -Calm Mind
                                    -Stored Power
                                    -Hidden Power (Fighting)
                                    -Baton Pass


                                    Edit: Also I have a soon to be Froslass with Snow Cloak, what would be wise to use it with? The battles will be double ones, and I will be playing with Friends through infrared, not over Wi-Fi. Also I'm not making a mono-type team, I will be making about 2-3 mixed teams, but I can use two pokemon of the same type, as you suggested using Walrein with Abomasnow.
                                    Thank you very much!
                                    All four moves are needed in Mamoswine's first set. You're going to have to do some breeding for Icicle Crash, as it's one of Mamoswine's egg moves.

                                    Ice Body is what makes Walrein so good in Hail, as it provides extra recovery per turn in hail. Don't bother with Thick Fat.

                                    No. Going for both Psychic and Stored Power at once makes Espeon completely walled by Dark Pokémon this way. HP Fighting is the best way for dealing with them; while Spiritomb and Sableye wall it completely, it can always Baton Pass to something else.

                                    Froslass is best off as a suicide lead/speedy supporter. Pokémon that like the passive damage of Spikes are good teammates:
                                    -Spikes
                                    -Taunt
                                    -Ice Beam/Shadow Ball
                                    -Pain Split/Destiny Bond
                                    Nature: Timid
                                    EVs: 248 HP/8 SDef/252 Spe
                                    Item: Leftovers
                                    Ability: Cursed Body

                                    or
                                    -Spikes
                                    -Taunt
                                    -Destiny Bond
                                    -Ice Beam/Shadow Ball
                                    Nature: Timid
                                    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
                                    Item: Focus Sash
                                    Ability: Cursed Body
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                                      Espeon got Signal Beam in BW2 which is an alternative for hitting Dark-types and opposing Psychics, which is great if you're having trouble breeding a specific HP.

                                      (But I'll leave that for PD to recommend~)
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                                        I need help deciding between two special walls for my RU team. One has more HP but less Special Defense, while the other has less HP yet more Special Defense and Defense.


                                        Meganium @ Leftovers
                                        Nature: Calm
                                        Ability: Leaf Guard
                                        EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SpD
                                        -Leech Seed
                                        -Hidden Power {Rock}
                                        -Aromatherapy
                                        -Giga Drain

                                        Meganium has base 80 HP and base 100 defenses, making it appear to be the better choice, however, having Aromatherapy but no Wish makes Meganium's movepool a weaker asset to the team, although Leech Seed assists in teammate recovery and wearing down bulky, non-grass-type opponents. Giga Drain for recovery and Hidden Power {Rock} to assist in my Bug weakness that also affects another teammate.


                                        Clefable @ Leftovers
                                        Nature: Calm
                                        Ability: Magic Guard
                                        EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SpD
                                        -Heal Bell
                                        -Wish
                                        -Seismic Toss
                                        -Protect

                                        Clefable has base 95 HP, 90 SpD, yet only 73 Defense, which makes for a better special wall, but for a weaker one overall, which will also guarantee that almost any fighting-type Pokemon can knock her out in one hit. The movepool more than makes up for it, though, as an incoming teammate could be gaining 197-101 HP on the switch in (depending on whether I'm doing level 50 or 100 battling). Protect can scout, and also ensure the healing from Heal Bell, rendering Softboiled a waste of a moveslot which allows for Seismic Toss for a steady 50-100 damage when needed.

                                        Which do you guys think will better fill in the role as both a special wall and supply team support?
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