Sixth Generation The Kalos region awaits! Explore a new world, capture new Pokémon, and fight off Team Flare in one of the newer installments of the core Pokémon series.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1    
Old January 8th, 2013 (10:39 AM).
MrGriszell's Avatar
MrGriszell MrGriszell is offline
Madara
     
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Gender: Male
    Posts: 869
    I'm not sure if this is true or not but I heard that the 3DS cartridge wasn't as easy to hack as the DS .
    So this would mean any unreleased pokemon will actually be a surprise to us when it's released, unlike today where we know every possible part of the game before it comes out.

    If this true how do you guys feel about this?
    Reply With Quote

    Relevant Advertising!

      #2    
    Old January 8th, 2013 (1:46 PM).
    Deokishisu's Avatar
    Deokishisu Deokishisu is offline
    Mr. Magius
       
      Join Date: Feb 2006
      Location: If I'm online, it's a safe bet I'm at a computer.
      Gender: Male
      Nature: Relaxed
      Posts: 870
      The 3DS uses a similar data structure to the regular DS. If there are 2D images of the Pokemon used anywhere in the game, you can bet we'll be able to open that easily just by sifting through.

      However, depending on how the models are done, we may not be able to view them correctly for quite some time. If there are no 2D images of the Pokemon, we'll have names/movesets/basestats but no picture. So yes and no? We'll know what the unreleased Pokemon are capable of, but not what they look like.

      That is of course speaking from our current knowledge of the 3DS. We'll likely come a long way by October.
      Reply With Quote
        #3    
      Old January 8th, 2013 (3:26 PM).
      bwburke94's Avatar
      bwburke94 bwburke94 is offline
      Still Aspertia's Aspie
         
        Join Date: Mar 2010
        Location: Conway, Massachusetts
        Age: 22
        Gender: Male
        Nature: Lonely
        Posts: 742
        3DS roms are rippable, but not playable. We'd be able to pick up the info from that.
        __________________
        3DS Friend Code: 0645-5804-7602
        Reply With Quote
          #4    
        Old January 8th, 2013 (3:29 PM).
        Hiroshi Sotomura's Avatar
        Hiroshi Sotomura Hiroshi Sotomura is offline
        That's Deneb, Altair, and Vega.
        • Developer
        • Crystal Tier
        • GTGet-Together Event Management
        • PokéCommunity Daily
        • Discord Moderoid
         
        Join Date: Nov 2002
        Location: Melbourne, Australia
        Gender: Male
        Nature: Lax
        Posts: 16,886
        Everyone seems to be encrypting 3DS data these days though. It might at least take the hackers a while to figure out the data structure for the Pokémon in these games, and even then we might not even have pictures to show off because there's little doubt that everything is going to be a 3D model.
        __________________
        On a day just like any other,
        you suddenly stood up and said,
        “Let's go stargazing tonight!”
        Reply With Quote
          #5    
        Old January 9th, 2013 (1:26 AM).
        Patchisou Yutohru's Avatar
        Patchisou Yutohru Patchisou Yutohru is offline
        • Developer
        • Platinum Tier
         
        Join Date: Oct 2004
        Location: New Jersey
        Gender: Male
        Nature: Quirky
        Posts: 17,242
        Forget the fact that it's a 3DS game, the main reason Pokémon information like that was leaking was because it was released in Japan, what? Six or seven months before the rest of the world? This time it'll be an international release, so we won't really have to worry about unreleased Pokémon being flooded onto the internet.
        Reply With Quote
          #6    
        Old January 9th, 2013 (1:56 AM).
        BLOOOD-La-ti-'s Avatar
        BLOOOD-La-ti- BLOOOD-La-ti- is offline
        This is the place to try!
           
          Join Date: Aug 2012
          Location: Earth,use common sense.
          Age: 16
          Gender: Male
          Nature: Jolly
          Posts: 217
          lol,
          of course we can,
          just look at the trailer,
          If u guys aren't suprised,keep watching the trailer until u're suprised.
          __________________

          oh check this out:
          http://www.pokecommunity.com/member.php?u=373174
          My new account. :3
          Reply With Quote
            #7    
          Old January 9th, 2013 (3:13 AM).
          ☆aqua☆'s Avatar
          ☆aqua☆ ☆aqua☆ is offline
          Ace Trainer!! :p
             
            Join Date: Dec 2012
            Location: Under your bed
            Gender: Female
            Nature: Sassy
            Posts: 21
            I can't wait to see what hacks will look like, tbh. I don't know much about hacking, but I'm guessing it might be hard (or I'm completely wrong lol).
            __________________
            I'm not a rapper
            Reply With Quote
              #8    
            Old January 9th, 2013 (3:22 AM).
            Ω Ruby and α Sapphire's Avatar
            Ω Ruby and α Sapphire Ω Ruby and α Sapphire is offline
            Hope will never die! ~Lucina
               
              Join Date: Apr 2011
              Location: Victoria, Australia
              Gender: Male
              Nature: Quiet
              Posts: 735
              ^ I don't have the greatest knowledge either, but I don't think back will be possible for a long, long time. Anyway, it's a world wide release people! I don't think Ninty and Gamefreak are going to let any information slip, so I'm sure we'll get a few surprises!
              __________________
              Reply With Quote
                #9    
              Old January 9th, 2013 (3:22 AM).
              Blue's Avatar
              Blue Blue is offline
              dorks
              • Moderator
              • Platinum Tier
               
              Join Date: Jan 2008
              Location: United Kingdom
              Gender: Male
              Nature: Relaxed
              Posts: 19,850
              If the games are released everywhere within the same month, it's much easier to avoid spoilers..
              __________________
              Reply With Quote
                #10    
              Old January 9th, 2013 (7:12 AM).
              Platinum Lucario's Avatar
              Platinum Lucario Platinum Lucario is offline
              The Legendary Master of Light!
              • Crystal Tier
               
              Join Date: Jan 2008
              Location: Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia.
              Gender: Male
              Nature: Calm
              Posts: 1,561
              Oh boy... Nintendo 3DS has not even been hacked in any way. It's not even possible to rip ROMs without knowing how to construct a device that can extract data from the Game Card itself. Even if you look at 3dbrew website, with all that stuff... they still don't have the tools necessary to do Homebrew yet. It'll probably take until 2016 before someone manages to figure out a way to Homebrew on the 3DS and rip the ROMs.

              If only if there was someone that knows about electronic engineering, then maybe they would be able to finally develop a tool to create something that allows hacking the Nintendo 3DS ROMs.

              But the way I see it right now, I'm afraid yes... unfortunately all event Pokémon will be a surprise, 'cause we don't know anything about them and we'll be unable to uncover them before TPC does. :(
              __________________
              [Platinum Lucario's Signature]
              If you need to disable my signature, please give me some advice on how to improve the CSS-DIV code. Thanks!
              Signature Status: Strikes: 1/3 | Infractions: 0/3
              It's time to change the future...
              to a positive direction!

              Let's prevent things from getting bad!

              I'm a ROM and ISO Researcher
              Current Project: Researching Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Adventure Squad games (WiiWare)
              Reply With Quote
                #11    
              Old January 9th, 2013 (8:25 AM).
              Skystrike's Avatar
              Skystrike Skystrike is offline
              Dark Shadow
              • Silver Tier
               
              Join Date: Sep 2008
              Location: internet
              Gender: Male
              Nature: Quiet
              Posts: 1,538
              We probably will be surprised, but we have a 9 - 10 month wait, someone just might find out how to extract roms from 3DS Cards and break the encrpytion. Even then, since just about everything is 3D we probably won't find anything in the Pokemon department. Probably names, movesets, basestats, etc. and it's Pokemon icon (that's the only thing I would think would be a sprite.) However, considering that GF is releasing everything at the same time, we'll probably have to be surprised.
              __________________

              I lack toast and am tolerant
              Reply With Quote
                #12    
              Old January 9th, 2013 (8:29 AM).
              Cordelia Cordelia is offline
              Banned
                 
                Join Date: Aug 2011
                Nature: Sassy
                Posts: 9,753
                It will be very difficult for people to get into the ROMs of these games due to encryption and there's not a lot understood about how 3DS games work. I'm sure there will be a LOT of work on the subject, but it might just be that will be surprised.
                Reply With Quote
                  #13    
                Old January 10th, 2013 (10:29 AM).
                Correspondence Correspondence is offline
                   
                  Join Date: Jun 2012
                  Posts: 895
                  Yeah, I think the event only pokemon will be a surprise since the 3DS ROMs can't be hacked into fully.Someone somewhere will be able to hack into them someday but it might be a long time from now maybe 2016-ish or even more and by that time it will have already been revealed and there will be a new generations already.
                  __________________
                  Reply With Quote
                    #14    
                  Old January 10th, 2013 (10:45 AM).
                  Oryx's Avatar
                  Oryx Oryx is offline
                  CoquettishCat
                  • Crystal Tier
                   
                  Join Date: Mar 2011
                  Age: 24
                  Gender: Female
                  Nature: Relaxed
                  Posts: 13,204
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by Patchisou Yutohru View Post
                  Forget the fact that it's a 3DS game, the main reason Pokémon information like that was leaking was because it was released in Japan, what? Six or seven months before the rest of the world? This time it'll be an international release, so we won't really have to worry about unreleased Pokémon being flooded onto the internet.
                  I believe the reference is to event Pokemon, because we usually know about event Pokemon the second the game is released due to looking at the code, but it might be more difficult for a 3DS game and then when they finally announce it, it'll be an actual surprise as opposed to "Omg they finally revealed Genesect".

                  I hope they are a surprise though! That's how they're meant to be; to keep the excitement of the game going long after the game has been released. Instead they're just boring events because we knew about the events for months and months and were just waiting for them to be released.
                  __________________


                  Theme * Pair * VM * PM

                  Not all men...

                  Are all men stupid?

                  That's right.

                  Reply With Quote
                    #15    
                  Old January 10th, 2013 (10:51 AM).
                  pikakitten's Avatar
                  pikakitten pikakitten is offline
                  You met with a terrible fate
                     
                    Join Date: Jan 2011
                    Location: Termina, Clock Tower
                    Age: 19
                    Gender: Male
                    Nature: Naughty
                    Posts: 909
                    I hope it can't be hacked, then we can experience it all without people spoiling, unless its something that can't be unlocked anyway like Arceus or the God Stone xD
                    __________________
                    Credit |Kitty Pair | VM/PM | Photobucket | Theme
                    Reply With Quote
                      #16    
                    Old January 20th, 2013 (9:39 PM).
                    HaiImNate's Avatar
                    HaiImNate HaiImNate is offline
                    Ice Cream
                       
                      Join Date: Jun 2012
                      Gender: Male
                      Nature: Jolly
                      Posts: 209
                      It's possible, but hacking this game will be a lot harder than previous Pokemon games. I think that with the 3D, it's harder than hacking with 2D. I think that the games might be essentially the same, but that the graphics il be a lot different.
                      Reply With Quote
                        #17    
                      Old January 20th, 2013 (11:15 PM).
                      sρεcтяα's Avatar
                      sρεcтяα sρεcтяα is offline
                      Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ
                         
                        Join Date: Jan 2013
                        Gender: Male
                        Nature: Quiet
                        Posts: 65
                        If someone can make it, someone else can take it apart again. I highly doubt anything that is supposed to be a secret on these games will remain secret for very long. The global release date at least ensures some element of surprise for most of us, because there will be no earlier released Japanese version for news sites to cover first in depth, but as for keeping things hidden...good luck with that.

                        Of course, the best way to be surprised by these things is to not read the news. xD
                        Reply With Quote
                          #18    
                        Old January 21st, 2013 (1:34 AM).
                        vaporeon7's Avatar
                        vaporeon7 vaporeon7 is offline
                        My life would suck without you
                        • Crystal Tier
                         
                        Join Date: Aug 2010
                        Location: Preparing for trouble and making it double.
                        Gender: Male
                        Nature: Adamant
                        Posts: 5,154
                        I hope they're a surprise as well. We might not know how many Pokémon there actually is for years!
                        __________________
                        Reply With Quote
                          #19    
                        Old January 23rd, 2013 (2:17 AM).
                        Urugamosu's Avatar
                        Urugamosu Urugamosu is offline
                        Happy, and Searching.
                        • Crystal Tier
                         
                        Join Date: Sep 2008
                        Location: Perth, Australia
                        Gender: Male
                        Nature: Gentle
                        Posts: 556
                        Oh, this will be great! I always love a surprise. It just makes the mystery the much more great.
                        __________________

                        Springtime, the sun is back and the breeze to accompany it..
                        Reply With Quote
                          #20    
                        Old January 23rd, 2013 (8:09 AM).
                        wygar wygar is offline
                           
                          Join Date: Jan 2013
                          Gender: Male
                          Posts: 29
                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by vaporeon7 View Post
                          I hope they're a surprise as well. We might not know how many Pokémon there actually is for years!


                          well, saying "for years" might be a bit of a stretch lol
                          other than that, i completely agree.

                          it's definitely much better to have topics about ppl having fun and sharing even the smallest details they could find about the games than having ppl constantly complaining about *insert event here* not being out yet or others saying "trollfreak" are trolls because they never used the god stone that they (the players) were never meant to know about in the first place.

                          that being said, i'm really excited about the new games and the only thing i don't like about them is the fact that i still have to wait so many months until they're released =P
                          Reply With Quote
                            #21    
                          Old January 26th, 2013 (11:59 PM).
                          ArcanineArco's Avatar
                          ArcanineArco ArcanineArco is offline
                          Experienced Arcanine Trainer
                             
                            Join Date: Feb 2011
                            Location: United Kingdom
                            Age: 25
                            Gender: Male
                            Nature: Timid
                            Posts: 12
                            I really hope we are surprised. Every gen after Gold/Silver/Crystal (I was pretty young around R/B/Y and G/S/C) I have researched basically EVERY single little detail about the games before they came out because the games are always normally out in Japan months ahead and I can't stop myself..
                            Although this this time since it is a worldwide release I am hoping this isn't the case because It would be awesome that everyone is discovering the secrets and getting suprised together and experiencing the game at the same time as everyone else. This will make the games much more enjoyable for everyone in my opinion ..
                            __________________
                            Reply With Quote
                              #22    
                            Old January 27th, 2013 (12:21 AM).
                            Cerberus87's Avatar
                            Cerberus87 Cerberus87 is offline
                            Mega Houndoom, baby!
                               
                              Join Date: Jul 2012
                              Location: Dream World
                              Age: 29
                              Gender: Male
                              Nature: Lonely
                              Posts: 1,671
                              The issue with the 3DS is anti-piracy technology. The format hasn't been cracked yet as well. We'll get there, though. Even Starforce which was a pain to crack was eventually cracked, although it was when people had already lost all interest in Starforce-protected games, and after most publishers moved away from Starforce due to the potential harm it caused to people's PCs.

                              The fact it's 3D has nothing to do with cracking difficulty. The N64 was full 3D and was cracked.

                              It seems that, with the 3DS, Nintendo are really trying to make life difficult for hackers. Cheap flashcarts are permanently blocked. 3DS roms still aren't available (I'm sure they exist but they're useless right now). Heck, when Ruby and Sapphire were released I was playing the US version of Ruby on VBA almost on day one since release. Meanwhile, X and Y will come out in September(?) this year and you can bet there will be no 3DS emulators nor flashcarts on the day of their release.

                              I think the best way Nintendo can fight piracy is to make X and Y available as digital downloads through their store. Of course many people prefer boxed but a Steam-like service is one of the most efficient ways to fight piracy. It would kill flashcarts and put a huge dent on emulator play. Emulators as means of piracy are already unfavored because you can't access Wi-Fi with Desmume which is the best one available. Actually you can, with an obscure build, but from what I heard the Pokémon servers already block it. The idea of providing a complete service in one digital package would make people flock to Nintendo's shop and shy away from emulators and flashcarts.
                              __________________


                              Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire, the day Pokémon pulled a Dallas and jumped the shark.
                              Reply With Quote
                                #23    
                              Old January 27th, 2013 (3:58 AM).
                              Scorpiopt's Avatar
                              Scorpiopt Scorpiopt is offline
                                 
                                Join Date: Mar 2012
                                Gender: Male
                                Posts: 126
                                Quote:
                                Originally Posted by Cerberus87 View Post
                                Emulators as means of piracy are already unfavored because you can't access Wi-Fi with Desmume which is the best one available. Actually you can, with an obscure build, but from what I heard the Pokémon servers already block it. .
                                No they dont , appart from the union room , everything works including dream world
                                __________________
                                Don't take life too serious no one is getting out alive

                                Reply With Quote
                                  #24    
                                Old January 27th, 2013 (7:09 PM).
                                Superfox Superfox is offline
                                   
                                  Join Date: Jan 2013
                                  Posts: 281
                                  I don't know about the gameplay, but I definitely want some of the info to be leaked. At the very least, a few of the new pokémon as well as the starter evolutions. I always like it that way so I can plan out part of my party in advance.
                                  Reply With Quote
                                    #25    
                                  Old January 28th, 2013 (5:04 PM).
                                  AfewQuestions AfewQuestions is offline
                                     
                                    Join Date: Oct 2012
                                    Posts: 21
                                    I would love it if I could play pokemon on my computer legally, through Steam for example, mainly because I don't like little screens.
                                    Reply With Quote
                                    Reply
                                    Quick Reply

                                    Sponsored Links
                                    Thread Tools

                                    Posting Rules
                                    You may not post new threads
                                    You may not post replies
                                    You may not post attachments
                                    You may not edit your posts

                                    BB code is On
                                    Smilies are On
                                    [IMG] code is On
                                    HTML code is Off

                                    Forum Jump


                                    All times are GMT -8. The time now is 6:49 PM.