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    I dont really see any new types being made. However maybe the super effectiveness of some types might be altered? Because in my opinion, poison should be supper effective against bug. Cuz pesticides > bugs.
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      So, awhile ago me and my brother stumbled across some Pokemon news (which apparently happened to be fake.) It mentioned that Pokemon was going to introduce a new typing.
      Now, while I discovered the news is fake, it got me thinking about what they could add as a new type.

      The only types I could fathom in my mind were like.. Sun or Light type, or possibly something like a Cosmic/Star type.

      Do you think they will add a new type to Pokemon.. To X/Y, or ever?
      Do you want them to?
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      Old January 13th, 2013 (10:05 AM).
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        17. that's it. rock, paper scissors. no sky, sun or sea. it's balanced you see.

        maybe new type combo, but not new types.
        maybe more fusion, as we started talking DNA. so yeah.
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          Turnip type. It's bound to happen.

          Nah, anyway, I'm not sure about new types. It'd be cool, yes, but there'd be all of the complications with balancing and re-typing issues, probably adding quite a few attacks, too (they can hardly have an entire new type and only have it having one attack).

          If they were to do it, it'd all depend on whether they did it well or not. I don't think many people would complain if they added in a few new types and balanced them really well.
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          I doubt it. They brought in Steel and Dark purely to even things out, Psychic was overpowered and... I don't know. I read a decent explanation somewhere once, and while I can't remember it word for word, I know that it's unlikely and unnecessary for more new types to be introduced.
          This is exactly what I'm thinking. Why do we need a Light type to oppose Dark? There are already things that Dark is weak to.. it's not like it's overpowered or anything.

          They didn't bring in new types "just because" they did it because Psychic was way overpowered and they wanted to balance everything out. I don't think that adding a new type would help balance anything, it would probably actually ruin a lot of things because a lot of past Pokemon would need re-typing, and it just seems like a lot of unnecessary effort, I don't think there's going to be a new typing =/
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            I'm going to bring a different point of view than the type match ups. If they add more types, then gamefreak can have more creativity in creating each pokemon. A lot of people complain about how redundant pokemon have been over the years, though I disagree, adding a new type allows so many more creative options. For example, we may have our differences about adding a light type, but think about how untouched it's art style is in the pokemon world. There are very few white pokemon.

            Instead of looking at often negative view of complicating match ups, look at the creative freedom a new type can open up to pokemon design.
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              I'm pretty sure new types were only introduced in Gen II to balance out types that were considered "significantly better" than others (obviously Psychic, lol.) While I have believed for a while that Steel and Dark may be a tad too strong in terms of resistances or overall stats, I do not think that new types are necessary to balance out these often subjective imbalances.
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              The only reason a new type would need to be created is to give a boost to poison types who suffer severely from lack of reliable, powerful STAB since grass is the only thing weak to it. It would also be helpful if it were to be resisted by ice types who need the extra defensive help.
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              I don't think they create Pokemon to fit a certain type, they might say "We need more Steel types" and create some based off of that, but I don't think they're not going to say, "Oh, we can't have this be a Pokemon because we don't have a type for it." Porygon's line would be a perfect Digital type, but in the end it's just normal. If they create a "Light type Pokemon" what's stopping them from just making it a Psychic or Normal type? I don't think that not having more types is limiting their creativity

              Maybe if they gave Poison a bunch of super high powered moves instead of adding a new type? idk I just think that adding a new type will fix anything.
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                Hm, that is a possibility, but, either way, i see where you're going with this. B/W Started the route system back at Route 1, so maybe X&Y's game routes will be continued after the last route in B/W.
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                  I don't think they create Pokemon to fit a certain type, they might say "We need more Steel types" and create some based off of that, but I don't think they're not going to say, "Oh, we can't have this be a Pokemon because we don't have a type for it." Porygon's line would be a perfect Digital type, but in the end it's just normal. If they create a "Light type Pokemon" what's stopping them from just making it a Psychic or Normal type? I don't think that not having more types is limiting their creativity

                  Maybe if they gave Poison a bunch of super high powered moves instead of adding a new type? idk I just think that adding a new type will fix anything.
                  Here's another way to look at it. What type would you make Umbreon if the dark type never existed? What type would you make Steelix if steel never existed.
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                  Here's another way to look at it. What type would you make Umbreon if the dark type never existed? What type would you make Steelix if steel never existed.
                  To be fair, from that perspective, I'm not really sure we would actually have Umbreon since one could say it was practically made for the introduction of the Dark type. Where as with Steelix, they could have placed it under Rock/Ground if need be. That being said, the whole purpose of Dark and Steel being introduced back in Gen II in the first place was because the type system was off balance and it needed to be better rounded off going into another generation. Should they introduce another type, they would have to go through the type system once again and make sure it remains balanced.

                  I disagree with the argument that says the lack of newer types limits GameFreak's creativity when it comes to bringing in new Pokémon. You can't really say that when there's still a number of type combinations they have yet to use.
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                    To be fair, from that perspective, I'm not really sure we would actually have Umbreon since one could say it was practically made for the introduction of the Dark type. Where as with Steelix, they could have placed it under Rock/Ground if need be. That being said, the whole purpose of Dark and Steel being introduced back in Gen II in the first place was because the type system was off balance and it needed to be better rounded off going into another generation. Should they introduce another type, they would have to go through the type system once again and make sure it remains balanced.

                    I disagree with the argument that says the lack of newer types limits GameFreak's creativity when it comes to bringing in new Pokémon. You can't really say that when there's still a number of type combinations they have yet to use.
                    I never said a lack of new types limits Game Freak, but you can't argue that adding a new type doesn't open new doors for pokemon creation.

                    I understand the type match up problems that adding a new type brings. I'm just trying to bring a different view to the equation.
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                    I never said a lack of new types limits Game Freak, but you can't argue that adding a new type doesn't open new doors for pokemon creation.

                    I understand the type match up problems that adding a new type brings. I'm just trying to bring a different view to the equation.
                    Yes, bringing in a new type can certainly open new doors for what sort of new Pokémon can be created. The simple idea of adding in the much popular "Light" type alone stirs up quite a few ideas in the back of my head. I was just saying that if anyone thought that GameFreak not choosing to create new types limits their creativity or withholds them from using a Pokémon they want, then I disagree. I was never specifically saying that you said said that though.
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                      I guess it just kind of opens the question of how these new types eg. Light can influence the other types. What if it's a 'stand alone' type that isn't effective against any other type, or maybe more effective, or just... neutral to the others? Well, bottom line, new types can be quite interesting in practice! It's just how would they work -in- practice.
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                        I hope that there will be a Nature, Demonic, Technologic, or a Ancient Type in upcoming Pokemon Games
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                          I don't think new types might come, the only time new ones were introduced were Dark/Steel/etc in Gen II, if there is a Light type, legendaries might be the only ones to get it xD
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                            I don't think that they will add new types, last generation was a tiny bit off competitively, and if they add new types, things might get a little more wonky. I wouldn't be opposed, however, to a few Pokemon, (Possibly Legendaries.) having 3 types this gen... but nothing that would allow them to be extremely OP, for example, Fire, Water, Grass, wouldn't work... But for Charizard, Flying, Fire, and Dragon could be useful typing.
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                            I honestly can't see new types coming right now, as since most people have had experience with Pokemon quite a bit it would be frustrating to learn the new types advantages and disadvantages, etc. weaknesses and super effectivenesses. If its only one type that would be fine but multiple of them can be tedious. However for a new type, I'd like to see some sort of 'light' type not like Electric but more like the opposite of dark.
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                              to all the ppl suggesting new types: please stop it!
                              i know it's nice to let our imagination work and all that (in fact, it's one of the reasons why i like pokemon so much, because there's a lot left for our own interpretation and imagination) but honestly we don't even have the entire chart explored and that same chart is already unbalanced enough as it is (i know stealth rock didn't help but it was unbalanced since the beginning).
                              what i would like to see is an overhaul regarding the effectiveness of at least some of the current types.

                              we don't need a light type to counter dark, we already have fighting for that purpose.
                              and light as an element is already covered more than well by fire, psychic and especially electric.
                              to all the other types suggested, just because you already have niche types which were a bad decision for the most part as shown by their usually "terrible" status, it doesn't mean they should aggravate the problem by intruducing more irrelevant and incoherent stuff to the games.
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                              I honestly can't see new types coming right now, as since most people have had experience with Pokemon quite a bit it would be frustrating to learn the new types advantages and disadvantages, etc. weaknesses and super effectivenesses. If its only one type that would be fine but multiple of them can be tedious. However for a new type, I'd like to see some sort of 'light' type not like Electric but more like the opposite of dark.
                              I completely agree, I too... would only like to see one new type (hoping that it's Light-type).

                              If there was more than one new type made, then just imagine how more difficult would be to fit in the type chart to make sure there's no type combinations that has no weakness. xD

                              But if it is just Light-type, I'm sure it would fix the type chart so that all type combinations have a weakness and a resistance. ;)
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                                The only reason a new type would need to be created is to give a boost to poison types who suffer severely from lack of reliable, powerful STAB since grass is the only thing weak to it. It would also be helpful if it were to be resisted by ice types who need the extra defensive help.

                                This is about the only way I could see them adding a new type. It's fairly balanced as it is now. As stated by many, many others above me, Dark and Steel were only introduced to bring a bit more balance to the system. Although other types would be a fun change, but it would take a very large re-working of a very familiar system. It could throw off alot of people, New Players might be able to take it with stride, but anyone that's been playing since Gen 2 would probally have alot of trouble adusting, and the thing would end up being a bunch of fan-hate even though some people would really like to see new types (Light, Digital)

                                I also don't see the need for a type that can directly counter dark, as Dark is already weak to Fighting, and there are some nice Fight types out there already.
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                                  I do not want new types to be introduced, and my main reason for not wanting this is because of all the type combinations that are yet unused. Adding in all these combos with new Pokemon (a lot of them would be poison/with another type; like fire/poison or electric/poison), would still bring in new struggles and strategies to be used by those Pokemon or when you are facing them.

                                  Here is an article showing the 44 unused combinations :http://op.kiriska.com/2010/09/pokemon-type-combinations-yet-unused/
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                                  I actually disagree with the people saying a new type would upset the type balance - it strikes me as a far easier way to level the playing field than giving massive buffs to Poison, Ice, Grass, Bug etc etc while trying to think of some way to cut down Dragon types. However, having to change the type of truckloads of old Pokémon, introducing new moves / abilities etc etc would be quite the undertaking on GameFreak's part, not to mention something of a headache for fans.

                                  I am against the creation of new types, primarily because all the fan ideas are either redundant (Light just seems unnecessary) or downright terrible ('Sound', the type exclusively built for Exploud!). If they manage to come up with a pokémon that doesn't fit into any of the current types (and isn't based on something manmade) then I won't be mad at GF creating a new type for them, but it's hard for me to picture one.
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                                    I've said this some time ago in another thread, but the Sound type can be pretty interesting to toy with. Like... take Psychic vs. Sound.

                                    See, Psychic has to do with controlling stuff the mind. Moves like Darkness and Bug are super effective against Psychic because they "infect" the mind in some way. (well, and the whole psychic "balance" issues from Gen I) Sound can also affect the mind in numerous ways, in both good, and bad. I can see them not-effecting each other, personally, but it can work in... whatever they would decide to do, like Sound being effective against Psychic, etc, etc.

                                    Well, that was one idea. Again, it's all in the matter of just how would they work in practice if GF decides to make new types.
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