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If we get a special based Return, then can we get a special based Frustration too?

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I want special Return, ya, but physical Hidden Power probably won't happen, unless it's for fighting really, because it's a hidden "power", which'd imply not actually... attacking the mons physically. :x
I wouldn't say the word "power" implies to not being physical. Since it is possible for one to be physically powerful or have a physical power / strength. Perhaps the alternative move could be something like Secret Strength or something with a much better name than that.

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Eh...physical hidden power...I mean, I see that as kind of redundant, I suppose? u__u Not sure how to word it for why..but I agree with Nica, I don't really see it happening anytime soon, either. I find a special return more likely, if anything else. :x
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One thing that comes to mind, however, is that there are a lot of decent to pretty good physical hitters that have such a poor physical attack movepool. While they're able to learn some great special attacks, they just don't have the stats to back it up. I feel like there needs to be a larger [and stronger] variety of elemental attack moves for Pokémon like this.
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Yes! I'd like there to be a lot more opportunities for Pokemon that don't really have that good of a physical movepool, but I'm more or less thinking of those physical attackers that can't really learn boosting moves like swords dance~ Not to sound like a parrot or anything like that, but yeah. xD;
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    One thing that comes to mind, however, is that there are a lot of decent to pretty good physical hitters that have such a poor physical attack movepool. While they're able to learn some great special attacks, they just don't have the stats to back it up. I feel like there needs to be a larger [and stronger] variety of elemental attack moves for Pokémon like this.
    Wigglytuff and Dusknoir are good examples of this~

    I'd like there to be stronger special moves too. But maybe not so widespread that every single special-oriented pokemon can learn it, but at least for the jack-of-all-trades and master of none pokemon. Like of course, Wigglytuff and Dusknoir.
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    Give random mons things they "need". Like... give Scizor Stone Edge FOR VOLCARONA. Totally needed. :3
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    Nooooo. We need something to kill that hunk of junk, don't take away my Volcarona!

    As for pokémon getting things they NEED, nothing comes to mind before Flareon. I don't think it will be given anything though - I don't see any reason for GameFreak to be nice to it after five generations of making life for it as difficult as possible.

    Outside of that? Give a few more Flying / Bug types Hurricane. That move is severely under-distributed.
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    They need to give some of the Bird Pokemon Acrobatics, i.e Swellow, Pidgeot, Unfezant etc. I can't see why they aren't able to learn it tbh ;;
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    They need to give some of the Bird Pokemon Acrobatics, i.e Swellow, Pidgeot, Unfezant etc. I can't see why they aren't able to learn it tbh ;;
    Yeah, I do agree its distribution on Flying-types is a bit bad, the only decent one learning it is Archeops. Also, too many special attackers get in their movepool, which stinks.
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      They should give Grass types Nature Power, Natural Gift, Weather Ball, and Ground moves for decent coverage, and Ice types need Water moves as they're both relatable types like Rock and Ground.
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      Yeah, I do agree its distribution on Flying-types is a bit bad, the only decent one learning it is Archeops. Also, too many special attackers get in their movepool, which stinks.
      I agree, it feels like it is wasted as a TM when so little Pokémon learn it that can use it.
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      Weather Ball is something I'd like to not be spread around, actually. I really like how exclusive it is, even if that's just because it means Roserade has her own sort of niche as a Grass type that can kill Fire types (or, alternatively, Steel, Ice & Bug types). I could go for it going to a couple of new pokémon but I wouldn't like it to be at all common.
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      They need to give some of the Bird Pokemon Acrobatics, i.e Swellow, Pidgeot, Unfezant etc. I can't see why they aren't able to learn it tbh ;;
      Yeahh! Brave Bird also needs more distribution imo. I mean it's really strong and not every single bird is using it (or maybe they are??) but still Brave Bird needs to go to every single flying thing, despite it saying "bird".
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      I agree, it feels like it is wasted as a TM when so little Pokémon learn it that can use it.
      Simisage, Simisear and Simipour get nice movepools to make use of their balanced Attack and Sp. Attack, and I love using Acrobatics on them since they can run mixed sets well.

      Also, I do feel appalled that not every bird-based Flying-type gets Brave Bird.
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        Simisage, Simisear and Simipour get nice movepools to make use of their balanced Attack and Sp. Attack, and I love using Acrobatics on them since they can run mixed sets well.

        Also, I do feel appalled that not every bird-based Flying-type gets Brave Bird.
        Hmmm... Pidgeot, Dodrio, Skarmory, Swellow, Staraptor, Honchkrow, and Swanna all get it... Fearow isn't getting it, Noctowl doesn't need it... The only Pokémon which could benefit from Brave Bird is Unfezant, which in the eyes of Gamefreak might not need it because it learns Sky Attack (even though Sky Attack sucks).

        I think Aerodactyl gets it too since it was the original protobird.

        The legendary birds are Special based, so they benefit more from Hurricane.
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        Speaking of which, I hope they introduce a couple more special based flying moves with decent power and accuracy. There's Air Cutter, Hurricane and Air Slash but with the majority of them being Physical based such as Aerial Ace, Acrobatics, Drill Peck etc it limits the special based flying types from using their full potential.
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        Speaking of which, I hope they introduce a couple more special based flying moves with decent power and accuracy. There's Air Cutter, Hurricane and Air Slash but with the majority of them being Physical based such as Aerial Ace, Acrobatics, Drill Peck etc it limits the special based flying types from using their full potential.
        Yeah, and the only reliable one of those I bolded was Air Slash since the flinch effect is nice and it's the only one with respectable accuracy. Air Cutter sometimes misses often while Hurricane needs Rain in effect to be useful.

        I felt sorry for Unfezant getting high Attack, but not the right moves to abuse it. And then Flareon is still lacking a decent physical STAB after five generations. Let's hope X & Y give some nice buffs and/or touch-ups to past gen Pokemon's movepools.
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          Sorry to cut off the whole Attacks discussion but shouldn't we have Something new By now ?.. It's been quite some time since the starters reveal. Something on Smash this Sunday maybe ?
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            Hmmm yes. I am craving for new information. I presume we will be getting some fresh content soon. It is noticeable how much this forum has slowed down and people will begin to get disinterested if there isn't some news soon. Well that's just a gentleman's opinion anyway.
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            Maybe, maybe not. I thought we were meant to get Eeveelution last sunday, idk anymore. However! We'll definitely get stuff around 12-15th in CoroCoro (going that long without new information would be insane lmao) which is only around 2 weeks away so that's a good thing :3
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            It does seem like a long time since we've had some news, I think that's because of all this speculation and our expectations. I think we'll get something on Pokemon Smash tonight, hopefully.
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            The most I see us getting then is really just one Pokemon, really. Anything more I just don't see them doing until at least next month, given that when B/W were announced all we got was Zoroark/Zorua for like, a few months, then Reshiram/Zekrom, and we didn't even get the starters until four months later. :(
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            If they announce the new Eeveelution on Pokemon Smash, I guess it means that Eevee will be obtainable in the games or something.

            Let's hope they announce news that's worth waiting for!
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            I hope so, that will mean all the other eeveelutions will be in the game. I love having the option of choosing between them, even though I'll probably use a new eeveelution if one is introduced.
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