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Old January 19th, 2013 (5:58 PM).
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    252 SpAtk Choice Specs Glaceon (+SpAtk) Ice Beam vs 4 HP/0 SpDef Charizard: 97.99% - 115.77% (87.5% chance to OHKO)

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    Alomomola w/ leftovers
    Impish, 252hp 252def, regenerator
    waterfall
    wish
    protect
    toxic

    Comes in on any move, wears it down with toxic and waterfall, and wish+protect to stay alive
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    Hax is supposed to happen. Scald has a 100% burn rate(willowisp w/ perfect accuracy); paralysis has a 75% chance of kicking in; Rock slide misses more than stone edge; Hustle= 50% more power at the cost of 100% accuracy.
    I get haxed a lot and the hax gods who are the gods of hax hate me I'm sad :[

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    Old January 23rd, 2013 (2:12 PM).
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      Victreebel w/ Life Orb
      Adamant, 252 Atk / 252 Spe, Chlorophyll
      ~Swords Dance
      ~Leaf Blade
      ~Sucker Punch
      ~Sleep Powder

      Victreebel's Grass/Poison typing makes it is immune to Toxic and resistant to Waterfall, and therefore can easily set up three Swords Dances and go for the KO if Alomomola doesn't switch.
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      Old January 26th, 2013 (6:37 PM).
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      Combusken @ Life Orb
      Speed Boost
      4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
      Modest nature
      ~ Fire Blast
      ~ Focus Blast
      ~ Protect
      ~ Substitute

      An awesome moveset for this chicken, Fire Blast is able to check the many Grass, Ice and Bug-types present in NU while Focus Blast allows it to deal with Rock, Dark and Normal-types. Substitute helps stop status conditions for a bit, while Protect is a handy way of getting Combusken's Speed Boost to trigger. Try it out if you want.
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      Old January 26th, 2013 (8:10 PM).
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        Lapras @ Leftovers
        Trait: Water Absorb
        EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
        Calm Nature
        - Surf
        - Toxic
        - Roar
        - Ice Beam

        With its Surf, I am pretty sure its a sure OHKO.
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        Old January 26th, 2013 (8:52 PM).
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        Lapras @ Leftovers
        Trait: Water Absorb
        EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
        Calm Nature
        - Surf
        - Toxic
        - Roar
        - Ice Beam

        With its Surf, I am pretty sure its a sure OHKO.
        I'm not replying rn because I'm busy but I just want to correct this: Yeah no, Focus Blast has a 12% chance of OHKOing Lapras (if it hits) upon switching in and on the second turn Combusken will still kill it with Fire Blast to take the extra damage, or try Focus Blasting again because it outspeeds and if it misses it can just try to Focus Blast again in which it still may OHKO depending on the damage roll, and even if Combusken is behind a sub it'll still outspeed and likely could kill, so your only chance of surviving is luck, really. ;(

        Counter this mon is for Pokemon that have safe switch-ins, rather than Pokemon that can just OHKO the other.
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        Old January 26th, 2013 (8:59 PM).
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        (will counter Lapras):


        Ampharos:
        -Thunderbolt
        -Volt Switch
        -Hidden Power (Ice)
        -Focus Blast
        Nature: Modest
        EVs: 208 HP/252 SAtk/48 Spe
        Item: Choice Specs/Life Orb
        Ability: Static

        Ampharos' decent special bulk lets it take a STAB move from Lapras, then retaliate with Thunderbolt or scout with Volt Switch.
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        Old February 1st, 2013 (8:47 PM). Edited February 2nd, 2013 by halcyonic.
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        Countering Ampharos...


        Golem @ Liechi Berry
        Sturdy
        EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
        - Stealth Rock
        - Stone Edge
        - Earthquake
        - Sucker Punch

        With Ampharos's high SAtk, it should be able to OHKO Golem with Focus Blast/Hidden Power Ice if it didn't had Sturdy. The Liechi Berry boost then helps Earthquake to OHKO Ampharos.
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        Old February 2nd, 2013 (5:18 PM).
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        that golem is outsped and ohkoed and cannot switch in whatsoever if there are hazards up. by very definition, this is not a counter. you should also be using 252 atk / 252 spe (if you want a bulky rock setter then you should be using regirock) and rock blast over stone edge unless you enjoy being set up on by a load of things like sub ninjask or being pp stalled by subbu braviary. i also really like using custap berry + explosion over sucker punch, try that out next time you play with golem. normal gem is also a nice idea if your team really struggles with stuff like tangela / musharna or if you just want to get momentum going.


        anyway to deal with ampharos: it's actually quite hard to find anything that can really switch in reliably because it has solid coverage and is rather strong, but piloswine can switch in on anything barring focus blast and ohko it with earthquake. you could also use something obnoxious like sdef ludicolo and stall it out with leech seed + giga drain but realistically you will never use that in an actual game


        piloswine @ eviolite
        thick fat
        240 hp / 252 atk / 16 spe
        adamant nature
        - earthquake
        - ice shard
        - icicle spear / stone edge (if you have issues with regice / rotom-f, otherwise spear is superior)
        - stealth rock
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        Old February 3rd, 2013 (9:52 AM).
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          Poliswine is quite strong with Earthquake + Stone Edge, buuut, I'd say that set is countered by Samurott. Samurott can take Ice Attacks attacks from it's typing, and it's overall bulk can take a Earthquake and Stone Edge on the switch in. It can outspeed and OHKO with a Waterfall.


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          EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
          ~ Waterfall
          ~ Aqua Jet
          ~ Swords Dance
          ~ Megahorn
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          Old February 3rd, 2013 (10:06 AM).
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          Frillish:
          -Night Shade
          -Will-o-Wisp
          -Recover
          -Taunt
          Nature: Bold
          EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
          Item: Eviolite
          Ability: Water Absorb

          Frillish walls Samurott. Hard. The best Samurott can do to it is Megahorn. Frillish can cripple Samurott with Will-o-Wisp afterwards, and wear it down with Night Shade.
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          Old February 3rd, 2013 (10:53 AM).
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            252 Atk Life Orb Samurott (+Atk) Waterfall vs 240 HP/0 Def Eviolite Piloswine: 62.09% - 73.32% (2 hits to KO), while 252 Atk Piloswine (+Atk) Earthquake vs 4 HP/0 Def Samurott: 51.66% - 61.03% (2 hits to KO), meaning that Piloswine wins if samurott has to switch in on eq.

            Anyway,
            Ursaring (M) @ Flame Orb
            Trait: Guts
            EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
            Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
            - Facade
            - Crunch
            - Close Combat
            - Toxic
            Comes in on anything, isn't crippled by willo, and 2hkos with crunch
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            Hax is supposed to happen. Scald has a 100% burn rate(willowisp w/ perfect accuracy); paralysis has a 75% chance of kicking in; Rock slide misses more than stone edge; Hustle= 50% more power at the cost of 100% accuracy.
            I get haxed a lot and the hax gods who are the gods of hax hate me I'm sad :[
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            Old April 15th, 2013 (8:33 AM).
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            Sawk (M) @ Choice Scarf
            Trait: Sturdy
            EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def
            Adamant Nature
            - Close Combat
            - Earthquake
            - Ice Punch
            - Stone Edge

            Sawk can come in on any of Ursaring's moves due to sturdy. Sawk can then outspeed ursaring to OHKO with close combat.

            252+ Atk Sawk Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Ursaring: 530-626 (164.59 - 194.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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            Old April 15th, 2013 (9:22 AM).
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              Yamask @Eviolite
              Trait: Mummy
              Ev's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 HP
              - Night Shade
              - Will-o-Wisp
              - Pain Split
              - Haze

              Has Haze to distinguish itself from Misdreavus, preventing sweepers to set up on him. Night Shade breaks most non-normal subs. Easily defeats Sawk.

              252Atk Mold Breaker Sawk (+Atk) Stone Edge vs 252HP/252Def Eviolite Yamask (+Def): 22% - 26% (62 - 74 HP). Guaranteed 5HKO.
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