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Talking of a look out, I'd like to see something along the lines of the Aspertia look out again. :) It was really nice to see the area in the far distance!
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    I hope it's not like Hoenn. I prefer industrial areas.

    Funny that people are comparing Unova to Hoenn, as I thought they were two extremes of the same issue. Unova is quite simple to navigate and may not have the sense of getting lost, but Hoenn had very poor path issues which stem from its lack of linearity. I recall that, to get to Meteor Falls you need to take the Fiery Path to Fallarbor, then a route to the left and the south. After you return the Meteorite to Prof. Cozmo, you have two options: do a circle route all the way back to Mauville and to the Fiery Path entrance, where the cable car is located (which is what I think you're supposed to do because there are trainers to fight north of Rustboro), or do the reverse path from Fallarbor through the Fiery Path and then the cable car, which is quite long as well. To make matters worse, you didn't even have Fly at your disposal at that point in the game. It was one of the most glaring examples of poor routing in all of the Pokémon games. Then Hoenn also had the useless Pacifidlog Town and that dreaded route of doom with the fast currents which takes ages to explore without a walkthrough. In light of that, I definitely prefer Unova's approach.

    Well, at least Hoenn had the merit of not making the Town Map completely useless. :D
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    Hoenn did not make the town map useless, if you didn't know where you were going after Mauville you could easily get lost. Unova is the one that made the map useless, the descriptions showed up even without visiting it, which was a nice thing other town maps did. Visit city/town get local description, now read. Another feature I want back however is the city/town road layout with important buildings. That was pretty fun to have, even if useless. God, BW cut so much out..
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      I look forward to the evil team despite what I said on twitter of chances that there might not be an evil team :x
      Why would you say that? =O

      Unless maybe they won't be as evil as say, Team Rocket? I dunno, Team Plasma didn't really catch me as 'evil' either (apart from Ghetsis) so maybe they'll be like them?
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      Evil team headed by the Professor. Genetics playing a role, would lead the professor's studies down a dark road, with you being her pawn for most of the way. Too dark perhaps for Pokemon where the professor is usually your mentor, but I would love it.
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      Well I mean not evil team but just a bad team, really. There's so many other things that we could be fighting against - racing against the time to stop evil Pokemon, etc, it doesn't necessarily have to be a human/team.
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        Pokemon do have willpower, so that can be possible. =O Liiike... what if the evil pokemon were the legedaries? And yes, before anyone says "but pokemon can't be truly evil" yes, that's normally true, but it can still be possible... sorta.
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        Well, the third could be worse than Yveltal and Xerneas combined. We hear about it and at first only gym leaders/e4 are fighting it, meaning we can only battle a few who stay back (so 8 stay back, there's really more than 8, tying in with the more than 8 gym leaders thread) and we go along like a normal trainer like every other game and have struggles like every other game, but you notice bad things occuring in the region as you get closer to the area the legendary is. There's a team but the team is a vigilante team and trying to stop it without gym leaders/e4 knowing. Everyone thinks that they are evil though, given that in the past every region has had an evil team. However! Once you get to the 8th gym and bypass there, you realise what the "evil" team is doing and they explain that they're fighting the evil Pokemon too but the gym leaders/e4 keep getting in their way. Then they tell you why the third mon was evil, which is because its heart was corrupted, a throwback to Colloseum/XD and the third generation in general. Only you can help restore its heart, as gym leaders/e4 notice a fighting spirit within you, or something within you. Then after that you confront the evil Pokemon, and at first you fail. You're disheartened, everyone is disappointed in you, etc, but then the front way out is blocked, so you go the back way, and there you find Xerneas or Yveltal, and together you and the Pokemon go together (and its ability trumps the other Pokemon, somehow) and face the evil Pokemon and purify its heart. Then you go off on your way to defeat the remaining gym leaders, and the elite four - however at that time the "vigilante" team is annoyed that you were heroic and sets out to sabotage you and kidnap your Pokemon specifically etc, so it's effectively like two different stories that tie in really well. In the end you defeat them and stand in the hall of fame~~~~

        Could be a nice twist :3
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        I love the idea you've come up with but we all know GameFreak isn't going to do something relatively elaborate because it's a children's game. Every game has been pretty straightforward and linear...the only game that broke the mold Rampardos has moldbreaker somewhat would be Black & White and its emphasis on story...but that was offset with a extraordinarily linear campaign when compared to previous Gens.
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        But still, they've bypassed their patterns - B2/W2, gen 6 announced globally, making gen 5 a one-region generation, and B2/W2 even referenced to freezing someone so imo anything is possible, and given this is a brand new generation I'd like to see them do something out of the box, and that's the most out of the box I can think of really!
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          That doesn't mean they won't still do it. D=
          In fact, elaboration can be pretty nice, even for a 'E' for everyone game!
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          Perhaps the evil team could actually be about genetically modifying the Pokémon? Perhaps their evil intentions is to take control of Xerneas and Yveltal to be able to create their own versions of Pokémon to take over the world? Yeah something along those lines.

          As for CoroCoro, I'm kind of getting this feeling that they won't reveal anything new, just probably some things about the Pikachu and Eevee Friends short film. But I hope they reveal more than just that, I hope they reveal Xerneas and Yveltal's types (which I may speculate that Xerneas would be Psychic/Steel-type and Yveltal as a Dark/Fire-type).

          And if I doubt they would reveal a new Eeveelution as of yet, probably the new Eeveelution would be revealed on Pokémon Smash... not on the Sunday coming up... but the week after that one. Seeing as they've revealed 2 old Eeveelutions last week and 2 of them the week before as costumes... and I think there was also another two of them revealed the weak after that one as well, but I haven't seen the one on January 20th... so I don't know which two of them were revealed. So which ones have they revealed? Well as far as I know... they've revealed _____, Glaceon, Umbreon, Leafeon, Espeon, Vaporeon. If they have revealed Flareon already, then Jolteon would be shown on Pokémon Smash. But if they've revealed Jolteon already, then they've only got Flareon to go. So yeah... this Pokémon Smash could quite possibly reveal a silhouette of the new Eeveelution.
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          I suppose this is what bothers me a bit when concerning speculation. Not you guys specifically, but we all come up with these awesome and really cool ideas that could be in the games(especially concerning the storyline), and knowing GF, it's kind of doubtful that they would really be super elaborate with things, especially knowing what we've been given in the past has pretty much been the same formula.
          • At the beginning of the game, x happens, causing you to do x, and you get your starter Pokemon
          • You then start your adventure and beat all 8 gyms.
          • You challenge the Elite 4 and the champion, and defeat them.

          And that's pretty much it(evil teams included, I almost forgot to mention that), but what I really want is for them to really "break off" from the formula a bit, and test the waters with some new things in X/Y. Who knows, it might really resonate well with the fans~!
          Yea totally. I seriously would love to see them break away from the status quo they've come up with and surprise us....even though I'm sure some will complain.
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          I kind of felt like a killjoy typing that lmfao but I strongly feel that we're going to get some similar formula or something, which is why I'm not getting my hopes up too much with these games, and I'd like to be pleasantly surprised, if anything.

          So far, according to these screenshots, they're definitely different from what we're used to in our traditional main games(what with the screenshot of the main character swinging from a vine and whatnot), seeing as there's probably different methods of exploring, but how far are they really willing to go to break away from what we've been seeing for five generations straight? I at least hope so.
          Nah it's cool; sometimes I feel the same way when I keep reminding myself and everyone that GameFreak probably won't add and/or change a WHOLE lot to the games....

          .. and I can't help but feel that they'll handhold us through the "new cool features!" like vine-swinging and maybe the roller-skating stuff we've seen as well. That's at least some change!
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          See, that's what made me hopeful at first. Hopefully they include rollerskates instead of the bikes, and hopefully they made exploration of caves and everything else different, and hopefully GF continues on the right track that they've made since B/W and made the storyline more interesting, but how much can we hope, if that makes sense? ;O;

          But I'm not going to be pessimistic or anything lmao, I like being positive and just hoping for the best in these games. n_n;
          Yea it makes sense but it gets me doubting GameFreak :/ For example, the first two games of a Gen always seem "mediocre" when compared to the 3rd version which always seems to be the more refined, actual product that it was meant to be.

          The exception of course being Gen V where we got sequels instead, but even then...those felt like what Black/White 1 should have been; by incorporating some of our old favorites (pokemon-wise) and making us head to the eastern part of the region which was never touched in Black/White1 PreE4.

          I guess what I'm trying to get at is, I hope GameFreak nails it on the first iterations, and not one that comes a couple years later. I'll still have fun with X & Y regardless but food for thought!
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          Well, the third could be worse than Yveltal and Xerneas combined. We hear about it and at first only gym leaders/e4 are fighting it, meaning we can only battle a few who stay back (so 8 stay back, there's really more than 8, tying in with the more than 8 gym leaders thread) and we go along like a normal trainer like every other game and have struggles like every other game, but you notice bad things occuring in the region as you get closer to the area the legendary is. There's a team but the team is a vigilante team and trying to stop it without gym leaders/e4 knowing. Everyone thinks that they are evil though, given that in the past every region has had an evil team. However! Once you get to the 8th gym and bypass there, you realise what the "evil" team is doing and they explain that they're fighting the evil Pokemon too but the gym leaders/e4 keep getting in their way. Then they tell you why the third mon was evil, which is because its heart was corrupted, a throwback to Colloseum/XD and the third generation in general. Only you can help restore its heart, as gym leaders/e4 notice a fighting spirit within you, or something within you. Then after that you confront the evil Pokemon, and at first you fail. You're disheartened, everyone is disappointed in you, etc, but then the front way out is blocked, so you go the back way, and there you find Xerneas or Yveltal, and together you and the Pokemon go together (and its ability trumps the other Pokemon, somehow) and face the evil Pokemon and purify its heart. Then you go off on your way to defeat the remaining gym leaders, and the elite four - however at that time the "vigilante" team is annoyed that you were heroic and sets out to sabotage you and kidnap your Pokemon specifically etc, so it's effectively like two different stories that tie in really well. In the end you defeat them and stand in the hall of fame~~~~

          Could be a nice twist :3
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          I quite like the STRONG SILENT TYPE thing they currently have going on and wouldn't like that to change. I enjoy the tradition of saying absolutely nothing throughout the entire journey except "yes" and "no".
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          Yeah really I don't mind as long as the dialogue isn't really banal and blah. If you could choose what to say yourself it would be good, but I like to imagine my character is the one person in the region who has an actual personality (and doesn't express it because everyone else is too dull to understand it), so they'd best not ruin that!
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          It could be changed to like 'yup' and 'nah' etc instead of yes and no but I hope we don't get to choose much like phrases in the mall thing which we owned in b2w2 it was annoying :(
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          It's one of those unspoken rules such as Link from LoZ never having a voice outside of screams/grunts/yelps. GF won't be adding a voice lol

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            I think it would be cool to have the main character say something every once in while. Even if it is just text.
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              Actually,they talk.But they never are shown in text. Like in BW2's anime trailer, the main characters
              spoke. However,in the games,Nintendo places it like this because"we are the characters"and Nintendo
              wants to "make us feel that".Same for TLOZ.
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              Yea that's been known...which is why (at least in my part) I disagree with our character having actual dialogue, unless it's done exceptionally well.

              But we know GF doesn't change much.
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