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View Poll Results: Kris or Lyra?
Kris 97 70.80%
Lyra 26 18.98%
Both 14 10.22%
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Old January 4th, 2012 (12:02 AM).
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    I prefer this girl
    I think beta girl looks more like Lyra to be honest, which would make sense why they remade her.

    If you remember, gold and silver were going to have a female option too however due to time constrains they couldn't get it working in time.

    I also believe this beta artwork to be what that beta girl is based upon:


    Kris was only created simply for Crystal, since her name is clearly close to the name of the game.
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    Old January 13th, 2012 (9:39 AM).
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      Kirs all the way. Kris is kick ass and she had the guts to do so , and she hasnt got a stupid ballon hat. Kris all the way.
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      Old January 21st, 2012 (5:35 PM).
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      I absolutely hate Lyra's design, and I find her annoying to look at because her design is ridiculous and she just looks like she'd be really annoying if she were real.

      Kris is an HBIC who needn't be messed with. XD
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      Old February 2nd, 2012 (1:11 PM).
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        I absolutely hate Lyra's design, and I find her annoying to look at because her design is ridiculous and she just looks like she'd be really annoying if she were real.

        Kris is an HBIC who needn't be messed with. XD
        Yeah Kris is legit. Dang I look at the poll and see who's obviously in the higher favor here. Kris dominates.
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        Old February 2nd, 2012 (5:50 PM).
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        I like them both, but Kris I have more love for. Lyra kind of annoyed me...a lot. The MASSIVE amount of fan art she has amazes me. Her hat is terrible. Her hair is terrible (as it is with most female protagonists), and she just all in all annoys me. Bad.
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        Old February 3rd, 2012 (6:19 AM).
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          I can't stand Lyra's stupid poofy hat so much that if I ever get HG/SS, I'm going to play as Gold. Kris is way better by far. In fact IMO she has one of the best female character designs in the games. I'm never gonna understand why they always get shoved into short shorts and mini-skirts tho... Realy, go look at the girl in Black and White. Her shorts are shorter than the pockets O.o
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          Old February 3rd, 2012 (6:43 AM).
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          Kris > Lyra
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          1. NOSTALGIA
          2. Lyra's hat is annoying .
          3. Overall character design.
          4. When I see Kris I can identify with her, I feel that we are similar in many ways.. but Lyra? nope >.>
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          Old February 3rd, 2012 (1:37 PM).
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          I know this sounds really, really whiny, but HeartGold/Soul Silver just wasn't the same without Kris. Lyra just felt really awkward (having the 'unusual' starter Pokemon of a Marill didn't help), and just felt really inferior to Kris. Her design, with the overalls and over-sized hat, is really silly and just... immature. Whereas, Kris actually looks dependable and was the original heroine, with the blue hair and slick outfit. Yeah, you can guess who I prefer.
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          Old February 3rd, 2012 (8:23 PM).
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            Kris by far. Lyra just annoyed me with her Marril and her oversized hat and farm-looking outfit. Plus Kris would have added more of a nostalgia factor to the remakes.
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            Old February 3rd, 2012 (9:26 PM).
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              I like both of them though I slightly prefer Kris due to the nostalgia factor.
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              Old February 3rd, 2012 (11:18 PM).
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              I love, love, looooooooooooove Kris. She's amazingly awesome in The Legend of Thunder, and I wish she reappeared once again on HG/SS. I was disappointed, tbh, that Lyra replaced her.

              Lyra needed an outfit-do-over. Just sayin'.
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              Old February 4th, 2012 (5:21 AM).
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              Kris. Just prefer the design of the clothers and the whole 'first female protagonist' thing is an additional but notable thing I feel.

              Lyra although she has a neat music theme and brought us much fanarts making fun of her Mario-esque clothing, was a kinda boring character added to HGSS with a fixation to Marill the most memorable thing about her imo. Would have preferred Kris' design and no pseudo-rival character added in, tbqh.
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                On a biased level I'll say Kris, cause I've never played as Lyra
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                Old February 14th, 2012 (7:58 AM).
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                  On a biased level I'll say Kris, cause I've never played as Lyra
                  It's good that you've never played as Lyra. It's not worth it.
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                  Old February 14th, 2012 (10:06 AM).
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                    I'd go with Kris! Blue-Haired chicks ftw!
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                    Old February 16th, 2012 (1:36 AM).
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                      Kris is definately better Lyra's design is just awful...
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                      Old February 17th, 2012 (9:03 PM).
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                      Don't even get me started on the awkward designs of the fourth and fifth generations. :cer_cry:

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                      Old February 20th, 2012 (2:43 PM).
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                        It's good that you've never played as Lyra. It's not worth it.
                        Lol!! :D I think if I ever got SoulSilver I'd play as Ethan, but that's just cause he's my favourite male protagonist (along with Brendan.) Poor Lyra lol
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                          Kris all teh way. She's just so awesome. Maybe if/when they remake gold like 20 years from now or whatever they'll bring her back. Lyra is like the flu: I hate it. And the hate spreads among the Kris fans.
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                          Old February 23rd, 2012 (6:52 PM).
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                            I never really cared for Kris. *cue gasps from stunned audience* Yes, I like Lyra better. I don't care if Kris is 'THE VERY FIRST FEMALE CHARACTER!!!!oneeleven!1" Actually, technically she isn't. But whatever. She's like the Fluttershy of Pokemon: too overrated.
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                            Old February 23rd, 2012 (7:23 PM).
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                              Kris. I've been playing Crystal on my GBC, and I'm sad that Kris was replaced. They could have made a remake of Pokemon Crystal! Lyra is annoying. To me, Lyra is a replacement.
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                              Old February 25th, 2012 (4:49 PM).
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                                  I prefer Kris cuz:
                                  1. Blue spiked up hair.
                                  2. Her Pokeballs are blue (cuz of sprite palette but still cool).
                                  3. Cool clothes... Just plain awesome.

                                  Why I dislike Lyra:
                                  1. She stole the hate from Mario's friend, Toad, & removed the spots (they would have looked cool).
                                  2. Farm clothes.
                                  3. Awfully long socks, school-girl-ish.

                                  Or maybe she's not that bad, it's just that she... doesn't... go... here...
                                  They shouldn't have replaced her, and shouldn't have changed Red's look;
                                  after all, they should have stick to the "remake" profile.
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                                  Old February 10th, 2013 (12:31 PM).
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                                  aren't Kris and Lyra the same person but lyra is kris with the hat? (in the manga) but anyways i prefer kris because i like her clothes way better than lyra's.
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                                  Old February 10th, 2013 (1:53 PM).
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                                    Lyra has a poor design, whereas Kris had a good design and was overall a better female lead.

                                    Plus, I was aggravated by Lyra's constant following of the PC. Her dialogue was awful, and she really did seem like the kind of person whom you'd have to tell to shut up every 5 seconds. That insane, near-lobotomized cheeriness is grating.
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