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    oh wait, jolteon and umbreon have no weaknesses, while it looks plausible for it to be a flying type, that would only make the type balance worse and jolteon would rule the eeveelutions, if we're going for balance, i think it would be safe to say that 1 or 2 more will be released. unless ninfia is indeed a light type and will be super effective against electric.
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      It's incredibly common for people to find these little patterns and supposed "hints" as long as they benefit their preconceived theories.

      I'd like to believe Slyveon will be either "Love" or "Fairy" type, but Flying works too. That being, said, nothing is confirmed and ultimately all of this speculation will just leave us disappointed.

      Yeah, a lot of that stuff points to a Flying-type, but wasn't there a lot of debate over Reshiram and Zekrom being Dark/Light dragons respectively because of their representation and coloring? That was quickly put to rest and plenty of people were disappointed.
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        With all the talk about genetics being a heavy theme, and Eevee being such a unique pokemon due to its gentics, I wonder if 8 evolutions will correspond to the 8 gyms in the game.
        That's something I never considered before. Maybe this'd make up the final gym and determine the order of gyms (meaning it'll end on Flying - something new!)

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        Well, according to its name, it might be steel type
        For looks, it might be flying or even normal (I know Eevee himself is normal type, but still...)
        Nah Syl doesn't really mean silver - if it were steel it'd be more Silv, and not y. The y just kinda of throws it off!
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          hey, it was also a small coincidence that in blue, oak would say "ho, this is getting good." and in red he says "oh, this is getting good!" (or was it vice versa?), and what was the next big legend? ho-oh! they hide this stuff all over the place, they even hinted about munna back in what was it? ruby? when a girl said she wished there was a pink pokemon with a floral pattern. i see this as a pretty good hint for flying.

          oh, look at this.
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          scroll down a little and it actually says this: "take a closer look at the different Pokémon which can evolve from Eevee, including the newly discovered Sylveon!"
          Yeah, Munna!

          I'd love the introduction of a Light type but that seems impossible, all this hype guessing its type is just like Zekrom/Reshiram, so, I won't get all crazy about it :p Flying seems the most likely.
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            It's incredibly common for people to find these little patterns and supposed "hints" as long as they benefit their preconceived theories.

            I'd like to believe Slyveon will be either "Love" or "Fairy" type, but Flying works too. That being, said, nothing is confirmed and ultimately all of this speculation will just leave us disappointed.

            Yeah, a lot of that stuff points to a Flying-type, but wasn't there a lot of debate over Reshiram and Zekrom being Dark/Light dragons respectively because of their representation and coloring? That was quickly put to rest and plenty of people were disappointed.
            you don't have to worry about me being disappointed, i don't really have a preference for what type it is, any new pokemon is awesome with me since it brings more strategy to the game. of course if you only judge by appearance that it'll be a new type you'll be disappointed, i'm not saying this'll be a light type because it looks like one and i'm sure as heck not saying it looks like a flying type, but you always find some sort of clue about these things that turn out to be right, it may not be a flying type, but this sure does seem like something they would do.
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            Old February 17th, 2013 (8:49 PM). Edited February 17th, 2013 by Xander Olivieri.
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              That's something I never considered before. Maybe this'd make up the final gym and determine the order of gyms (meaning it'll end on Flying - something new!)
              Ehhh...there really isn't a set order of release in that case. If by Pokedex, then we'd have a Water Gym first right? That makes choosing the Fire starter a horrible idea as you have the disadvantage again, and there is no guarantee we'll get Pokemon with type advantage before said gym. It would also mean that around the city there will be Water Pokemon making it hard to train the Fire starter.

              Same if its an Electric Gym first with the Water Starter. A lot of the time, there is an area either before or after the first Gym with that Gym's type. A possibility of a Flying Gym ending the region is also kinda a let down. Flying type Gyms are pathetically easy. It would most likely be a repeat performance of Marlon with a Gym that's easy to OHKO before the E4. In reverse, it being a Normal or Dragon Gym would also be pretty boring. Dragon because of how many times its been done, and Normal...well Whitney and Norman were OP beyond reason. Don't really see how they'd be able to not OP a Normal Gym especially if its the final Gym without making it easy enough you can solo the gym.

              Its a cool idea, but they Types for Eevee don't really make a good Gym set up.

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              Nah Syl doesn't really mean silver - if it were steel it'd be more Silv, and not y. The y just kinda of throws it off!
              Considering Pokemon tend to replace part of a word to keep the same pronunciation but a different spelling, its actually possible that the Sylv is for Silver as we already say its for Sylph despite the "ph" becoming a "v", though I agree that its not Steel type. All Steel Types look metallic in some way. I still think its Normal type based on looks alone.


              EDIT: Just found the "weakness chart" that everyone has been posting to say that Sylveon is Flying type on Tumblr, but this one is based on NVE/NE. I was like...wow someone flipped the coin on the discussion XD



              They even go as far as to compare Sylveon to Iris' B2W2 clothing XD

              Man all this shows is how everyone is overthinking this entire ordeal.

              Also found an appropriate picture to sum my thoughts on Sylveon's Type discussion

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                Hm dragon makes sense to, i am still leaning towards flying, or a new type. Also anyone else have a feeling that eevee somehow has to do with the storyline. In the trailer we saw a statue of a guy with some pokemon next to him. One was an eevee. He is most likely a famous person in the region's history. Also eevee is the genetics pokemon so why wouldn't he be involved in the story if it has to do with genetics. Also the first new pokemon shown other then the legends and starters was an eeveelution so why not have it be a big part of the story?
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                Man I love Sylveon. Its the first time in 2 gens that a Pokemon has finally riled up the fanbase about the type, with no clear indication on where it can go. The type hype fight is the biggest division in a long while (last time was NY Shanghai right?) and its just so fun being a part of this. All I can say is that its either flying or a new type, with dragon being the wild card out of the blue pulling the rug from under your feet surprise.
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                  Sylveon sure doesn't look like a dragon-type :O
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                  Hm, it's certainly hard to judge from it's appearance.. it could be Flying, Normal, Dragon, Bug, it's exciting though!
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                    I think its either a flying or a dragon even tho it sure doesnt look like a dragon-type but both are weak against electricity. It could also be both, a flying/dragon type.
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                    I think its either a flying or a dragon even tho it sure doesnt look like a dragon-type but both are weak to electricity. It could also be both, a flying/dragon type.
                    Electric type moves aren't very effective against Dragon types, and they're only neutral when it's a Dragon/Flying. Being an Eeveelution, I would say it's almost safe to assume Sylveon will be one pure type unless GameFreak really wanted to pull one from underneath us, which in this case I doubt.
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                      Hm.

                      Here would be the possibilities:
                      Fighting, Flying, Bug, Rock, Ghost, Dragon, and Steel. I suppose it could also be a normal type. Of course, this is assuming they don't redo one of the eeveelution types.

                      The ones that actually look like they could fit:
                      Flying, Ghost(?), Dragon, Normal

                      My guess, Normal. What do you guys think?

                      Also did anyone else notice the cards attack? I thought it was pretty neat.
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                        Sadly, I think it's also going to be normal type, which would be a massive disappointment. I don't really see it being much else... it's hard to imagine it as flying or anything.
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                          I guess it can be a little weird for it to be a flying type. I mean, it's on the ground on all fours - how exactly would it dodge moves like Earhquake? Maybe it could it float?
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                            Sylveon is definitely a bug-type, possible a bug/flying, but at least a bug type!

                            "The Clipper (Parthenos sylvia) is a species of nymphalid butterfly found in South and South-East Asia, mostly in forested areas. The Clipper is a fast flying butterfly and has a habit of flying with its wings flapping stiffly between the horizontal position and a few degrees below the horizontal. It may glide between spurts of flapping."

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                            I still wouldn't say that's a definite for being a bug, though it admittedly makes it more likely. I'd say it's between Bug and Flying now.
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                            I just had a thought... (and someone has probably mentioned this, but oh well) what if sylveon was a poison type? Now I agree it doesn't really look like one, BUT say it were based on perfume/a sweet but deadly type of thing? There really isn't anything to define what makes a pokemon a poison type, other than it being venomous, (And I would say that bulbasaur doesn't look like a poison type to me) I know most poison types are green purple or blue, but there are exceptions and if we're playing off the beautiful but deadly motif, it could work!
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                              Aren't Bug types suppose to have appearances of insects, arachnids, and crustacians? Syleon is a mammal, so Bug should be crossed off (not to mention being formerly physical-based prior to Gen IV instead of special-based).
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                                Aren't Bug types suppose to have appearances of insects, arachnids, and crustacians? Syleon is a mammal, so Bug should be crossed off (not to mention being formerly physical-based prior to Gen IV instead of special-based).
                                Well it's moreso that it has an elemental affinity toward butterflies and insects, rather than being one in completeness. Like Leafeon is not a plant, but has an affinity for plants. Additionally, Vaporeon is not a fish, it is a mammal; it has a feline/fox face accompanied by four limbs. The concepts of Slyveon follows suit. It has butterfly bows and "feelers" (alluding to the German name Feelinara), and remains to be a mammal.
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                                I just had a thought... (and someone has probably mentioned this, but oh well) what if sylveon was a poison type? Now I agree it doesn't really look like one, BUT say it were based on perfume/a sweet but deadly type of thing? There really isn't anything to define what makes a pokemon a poison type, other than it being venomous, (And I would say that bulbasaur doesn't look like a poison type to me) I know most poison types are green purple or blue, but there are exceptions and if we're playing off the beautiful but deadly motif, it could work!
                                One could argue also the colorful feelers being a warning to how poisonous it is, and the fact that it has visible fangs not only for the movie art but for its plushies.
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                                    I guess it can be a little weird for it to be a flying type. I mean, it's on the ground on all fours - how exactly would it dodge moves like Earhquake? Maybe it could it float?
                                    It may simply be able to run in the air as reindeers are depicted to do. In regards to speculating it's a bug type, it seems more like feather light streamers on it, not feelers. Along with this, eeveelutions always have some some aspect to their form that relates to the typing, and the streamers flowing in the wind support flying type. I would imagine it being given a pair of antennae for bug type and scales or fangs for a dragon type.

                                    Also, all eeveelutions so far have been the colour of their typing (the exception being leafeon, but green is still a big part of it's colour scheme), pointing towards, eliminating both bug and dragon and supporting either normal or flying. Personally I see it being white to represent clouds and having sky blue as an accent colour which is pretty self explanitory. The only colour that doesn't quite fit is pink, but that may simply been added to make it cuter.

                                    Both it's name and size/weight would support it being either flying or bug, but given that everything mentioned above supports it being a flying type, I'd go with that.

                                    And in regards to the eeveelution chart listed above, weaknesses and resistances are unbalanced, as some have 2 weaknesses, some no weaknesses, and some being super effective against 2 or none. With that, I wouldn't take the chart into account.

                                    EDIT: Depending on which type chart you look at, dragon's colours can be both blue and pink, so I guess the colour scheme could be be similar to Lefeon's style and it could be a dragon type. However, I don't really see any other reasons for it to be a dragon type.
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                                      I think Bug is likely because it has large eyes and the eyes are very developed in most bugs.

                                      I don't think it will be Flying. All of the current Flying-type Pokémon have appendages which are developed for flight, except for Gyarados, which is Flying-type because of the legend of the carp. Even a few bizarre Flying-type Pokémon like Mantine and Tropius have appendages which they utilize to fly or glide.

                                      Sylveon? Doesn't look like it. Those ribbons don't look like they can keep it above the ground. To be able to fly, it needs to at least be able to take off. It can't flap its ribbons as if they were wings, so the most it could do is glide if it's carried by the wind, but that's not enough to classify it as a Flying-type. There are several winged Pokémon which aren't Flying-type (mostly Bugs such as Beedrill, Venomoth and Volcarona), so why would something which doesn't even have wings and doesn't look capable of flight be able to fly?

                                      I also don't think it will be a Normal-type. The whole point of Eevee evolution is to adapt to its surroundings. A Normal-type eeveelution would just be a bigger Eevee. The changes in Sylveon are too drastic for it to keep its Normal-type. The only way it could be Normal-type is if it was like Arceus and had an ability like Multitype, to stay true to the lore of the Pokémon.

                                      Therefore my current vote is Bug-type.
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                                        I don't think it's very effective to say it's "definitely" a certain type because of its name. I could argue that it's a flying type because the name sounds like a sylph (an air spirit that's usually female) or a nymph (a female nature spirit that could be associated with the air). So I don't think we should be basing anything off the names just yet. :)

                                        I can't think of anything it could really be, though. It doesn't really look like it was made to be a specific type, with all the other eeveelutions have features or designs where we can clearly see their types by looking at them. Vaporeon's fins, Jolteon's coloration and spikes, Espeon's gem, etc. The only think that Sylveon really looks like to me is normal, which would be really disappointing. Honestly I was hoping for an eeveelution that looked more like its type, ex. a flying type with wings or one more insectlike. I guess it could be a dragon but it just seems really.. graceful, which idk is not how I think of dragon types as.
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