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Old February 20th, 2013 (7:59 PM). Edited February 20th, 2013 by roosterman.
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    my ground type team for a mono tournament, my match will be tomorrow so i have some time to change a few things if necessary, and legal hacks are allowed so i can easily fix something if its a major issue. this is single elimination so its vital that everything is as close to perfect as possible.
    all of the usual tiers apply such as sleep and evasion but the only ground types that are banned are groudon and arceus

    claydol
    ivs: 31/0/31/31/31/0
    evs: 252 sp atk/ 200 sp def/56 def
    item: focus sash
    trick room
    cosmic power
    psychic
    heal block

    not my best work, it kept getting taken out by ice beam on random match ups so i gave it a focus sash so it could get trick room in and an attack before getting knocked out, still keeps getting haxed by bullet seed cinnico though, i won't have to worry as much in the mono tourney though.

    steelix
    ability: sturdy
    ivs: 31/31/31/31/31/0
    evs: 252 atk/252 def/4 sp def
    item: red card
    gyro ball
    stealth rock
    dragon tail
    explosion

    tied for most successful pokemon on the team, switches in after claydol and will usually set up stealth rock, the opponent attacks and red card takes effect, stealth rock takes some HP away, and steelix starts gyro balling, one hit KOing most pokemon i'v fought, dragon tail gets rid of the pokemon that resist steel and when i'm on the last turn of trick room and/or steelix is in the red, BOOM!


    golurk
    ability: iron fists
    ivs: flawless
    evs: 252 HP/252 atk/ 4 def
    item: leftovers
    drain punch
    curse
    protect
    thunderpunch

    the one that ties with steelix, golurk can come in really at anytime, depending on the situation, golurk will either use one of his punches which get 90 base power thanks to iron fists to one hit KO the pokemon, or, usually if its a wall, he'll curse it, use protect to gain some HP with leftovers, and then the opponent is down to 1/2 its HP and a single punch will most likely knock it out, also giving golurk some HP if he uses drain punch.

    garchomp
    ability: rough skin
    ivs: flawless
    evs: 252 atk/252 speed
    item: rocky helmet
    dragon claw
    fire fang
    shadow claw
    earthquake

    this was really just filler, and to take care of some of my teams weaknesses

    landorus(Tform)
    ivs: flawless
    evs: 252 atk/ 252 speed
    item: destiny knot for now
    earthquake
    brickbreak
    swords dance
    u turn

    just your average sweeper, getting a swords dance in when its safe, and sweeping, plus brick break for those pesky screen people.


    swampert
    ability: torrent
    ivs: flawless
    evs: 252 atk/ 252 HP/ 4 def
    item: chesto berry
    ice punch
    waterfall
    yawn
    rest

    needed a water type, he'll usually use yawn first unless i'm sure i can 1 hit KO the opponent. rest will be used when his HP gets low.
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    Old February 20th, 2013 (8:48 PM).
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    Claydol is too bulky to use Focus Sash. I'd rather have Donphan as the Ground 'mon of choice:
    -Earthquake
    -Rapid Spin
    -Stealth Rock/Head Smash/Stone Edge
    -Ice Shard
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy

    Explosion got nerfed in the generation shift, so it's not worth using. And since Donphan is already setting up Stealth Rock, if you opt for that, I think Gastrodon is a better fit to help against opposing Water Pokémon:
    -Earthquake/Earth Power
    -Scald/Ice Beam
    -Toxic
    -Recover
    Nature: Sassy/Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/84 Def/172 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Storm Drain

    or
    -Surf
    -Earth Power
    -Ice Beam
    -Hidden Power (Grass)/Recover
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 124 HP/252 SAtk/132 SDef
    Item: Choice Specs/Life Orb
    Ability: Storm Drain

    Dragon + Ground already have good coverage together, so there's absolutely no reason to use Shadow Claw on Garchomp:
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -Aqua Tail/Fire Fang
    -Dual Chop/Dragon Claw
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band/Choice Scarf

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Fang
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Yache Berry/Haban Berry/Lum Berry

    or
    -Substitute
    -Swords Dance
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Salac Berry

    Ghost Curse is highly risky and given Golurk's bad Speed, it'll most likely get picked off before it can restore HP with Drain Punch. And the lack of STAB really hurts here, and your Golurk is currently walled by opposing Golurk (lol):
    -Earthquake
    -Shadow Punch
    -Drain Punch
    -Ice Punch
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 172 HP/252 Atk/84 Spe or 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Iron Fist

    or
    -Substitute
    -Focus Punch
    -Earthquake
    -Shadow Punch
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 200 HP/252 Atk/12 Def/44 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Iron Fist

    or
    -Rock Polish
    -Earthquake
    -Shadow Punch
    -Stone Edge/Ice Punch
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Iron Fist

    Landorus-T is better off as a defensive pivot or a revenge killer:
    -Stealth Rock/Gravity
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -U-turn
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 200 HP/64 Atk/244 Def
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -U-turn
    -Superpower/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 32 HP/252 Atk/224 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    or
    -Gravity
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -U-turn/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Jolly/Naive
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Rock Polish
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Explosion
    Nature: Naughty/Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Substitute
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Swords Dance
    Nature: Naive/Adamant
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Expert Belt

    I already suggested Gastrodon as a Water/Ground, so I'm afraid I'll have to replace Swampert as well. Outside of Garchomp, this team is lacking a bit in Speed here, so Dugtrio could quicken the pace a bit here:
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -Reversal
    -Stealth Rock/Memento/Sucker Punch
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash
    Ability: Arena Trap
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    Old February 21st, 2013 (1:52 PM).
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      i think you're missing the point of claydol, it uses trick room first and then the slower pokemon (like steelix and golurk) can come out. it seems kinda pointless to have so many earthquakers on the team, so i was going to leave that to garchomp and landorus while the other ones will have some more useful moves for when they're at a type disadvantage since its guaranteed i'll have to fight one of my weaknesses eventually.
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      Old February 21st, 2013 (2:27 PM). Edited February 21st, 2013 by PlatinumDude.
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      i think you're missing the point of claydol, it uses trick room first and then the slower pokemon (like steelix and golurk) can come out. it seems kinda pointless to have so many earthquakers on the team, so i was going to leave that to garchomp and landorus while the other ones will have some more useful moves for when they're at a type disadvantage since its guaranteed i'll have to fight one of my weaknesses eventually.
      I'm afraid I have to disagree with you here. True, but Claydol isn't meant to play as a suicide Trick Room setter; it's meant to play as a support 'mon with Stealth Rock + Rapid Spin; like I said before, Donphan does Stealth Rock + Rapid Spin better because it can actually hit back. Relying on one Pokémon for Trick Room isn't a good thing, especially when Claydol is basically the only non-Uber Ground Pokémon who gets it and Trick Room is a somewhat weak strategy unless the team is built around it. And relying on Cosmic Power to buff your defenses makes Claydol a critical hit magnet.

      Each Ground Pokémon must, always, always, always carry Earthquake (or Earth Power, if it's somehow special-oriented) as a STAB move, as it's their absolute staple move (and it may be the most powerful move they have), as Ground has good coverage. While it's blocked by Flying and Levitate 'mons, that's what other coverage moves are for, such as Golurk's Ice Punch/Shadow Punch/Drain Punch, Garchomp's Outrage and Landorus-T's Stone Edge/U-turn.

      As I said before, I added Gastrodon in the team because it turns Water moves into its own Special Attack boosts thanks to Storm Drain; this compensates for the extreme Water weakness you have.
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