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6th Gen X/Y General Chat and Speculation

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Konekodemon

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In Totodile's case they based it off an animal that already has legs and made him a bipedal aka why Feraligatr still has four legs yet can walk on two. In the case of this Dolphin starter...there are no legs and it'd be a pokemon forced to live in the water.

This defeats the point of a dolphin ever being a starter pokemon for children because in the Pokemon canon the starter pokemon are supposed to be easy to train while pokemon based on fish/aquatic animals are limited to being near a body of water, or in it!

Dolphins don't live outside of water lol

But that's still no reason to be rude and try to force me to believe differently.
 
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Well, that entirely depends on where you go, and whether or not you buy it new or used. Amazon has a DS here for at least $115 used, and here's one for $109 used.

Of course, that also depends on the kind of person you are and whether or not you'll settle for a used 3DS. XD

Sites like Amazon and Ebay don't qualify for actual sales metrics. They are third party trading companies that hardly ever follow properly set price guides since a lot of the salers are regular people trying to make a quick buck and usually recieve their items in questionable means. Ebay and Amazon can also upcharge you to 3x the normal price. I've seen 3DS' on Ebay go for $500.

As for New vs Used, Used has a preset % difference from the current sales price that is set by Nintendo so Nintendo indirectly controls the used price as well.
 

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The 3D graphics in the game is definitely a step-up from our traditional 2-D sprites, imo. This new feel of pokemon game play can be quite refreshing for new and old players! Well, of course, the graphics are not final, and it's not perfect, but hell, I love this new graphic style!
 

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That makes sense.
Japan gets them first because it's where the games are made.
The US gets them second, because translating from Japenese to English makes sense.
A delay between the American release and the Australian release makes no sense, but it's there.
Then the translation to the other European languages begins, so the games can be released in Europe (in all languages at the same time).

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More than likely I'll get the games the day before the release date. I think Diamond might've been the last Pokémon game I bought on the release date, all others I bought before the official release date (with Black being the exception, but I got white the day before the release). I even got my 3DS the day before the official release (does that make me a very early adopter?).

Uh, guys, you forgot something:

Actually, I'm pretty sure that owners of the American 3DS can change their system's language between American English, Latin-American Spanish, Canadian French, and Brazilian Portuguese in their settings…

I was looking at Pokémon X and Pokémon Y as names and I have come to the conclusion that Pokémon Y, aesthetically, looks extremely awkward. Especially all by itself.

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Pokémon Y...

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So awkward.

When found alone, Y can be an awkward letter. I just hope that if there's a third game, Pokémon W won't be the title. Now that's awkward.

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Pokémon W...

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Definitely worse than Pokémon Y when by itself.

Like Y, W by itself just seems awkward but more so. If they were to title whatever third game we get Pokémon W, whatever OCD I may have is going to kick in and all I'll see it as is an abbreviation of Pokémon White.

It seems like the third game's name would likely be Z, because that name is completely badass and because it possibly can't be anything else but Z, because that name is so freaking cool. ;O;

Another possibility is that it can be something like XX or XY, from the whole genetics speculations I guess~!

Unless they decide to leave out DLC from these games... it's possible.
Though I agree with the W and Z for sequels, after all W and Z make up a another sex-chromosome pair (birds irc).

You guys do know that I thought of this first in the following, quoted post?

Actually, only mammals use the X/Y sex-determination system; birds use the Z/W one.

The whole "this info will shock, anger or relieve" makes me very suspicious.

I'm not buying it at all. Also Pinsir should get an evolution not a baby form....

edit: Just read further and saw he mentioned a Pinsir evolution along with a baby form.....eh I don't know why I'm even bothering.

But Pinsir could share a pre-evolution with Heracross if it had one, couldn't it?
 
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Oh cool~ UK is getting their own Pokemon Centered Magazine~

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Looks like we have another news source for Pokemon X and Pokemon Y about to come in~
 

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Remember that 4chan user who spread the latest rumors such as Jean and Jane and 99 new Pokemon? Well he's back, and he's spreading the exact same rumors, only in more detail:

Spoiler:
 
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The 3D graphics in the game is definitely a step-up from our traditional 2-D sprites, imo. This new feel of pokemon game play can be quite refreshing for new and old players! Well, of course, the graphics are not final, and it's not perfect, but hell, I love this new graphic style!

I do agree with ya Shawn, these graphics look pretty cool and almost realistic, nice and refreshing since these are after all the first main Pokemon games on 3DS. Let's hope my experience changes when I eventually do my playthrough.

@Pinkie-Dawn: Pretty nice compilation on the 4chan rumors there, maybe we might get a Dark-type Gym Leader, finally after 5 generations. I'd be surprised if any of these are confirmed true.
 
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Those...details really are awfully specific here. I mean, I'm at a loss whether or not to really take this for a grain of salt, because for someone to really go through that much effort and all of it ending up being a hoax is kind of strange, but this is 4chan we're talking about, so yeah. .___.

Not too happy with Chespin's Grass/Flying though, to me, it seems like something that would be either Grass/Rock or Grass/Ground, either one or the other. Fennekin's Fire/Psychic is pretty much what most fans are expecting, if not Fire/Fighting. I expected Froakie to be Water/Flying, but for it to retain its water typing is pretty eh. All in all, I'm really not convinced by what I'm seeing, and I'd rather see something official before I start coming close to believing it.

His entire post is fake. 1) He's going to jail if his boss finds out because he's supposed to be a member of Nintendo of America or something. Which, ya, like the guy in Japan that leaked the Gen 5 starter evolutions, this guy is going to prison if true.

2) Its too early for half of that info to be revealed. He's just given up about a third of the game info. Ya no. Its all fake.
 
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His entire post is fake. 1) He's going to jail if his boss finds out because he's supposed to be a member of Nintendo of America or something. Which, ya, like the guy in Japan that leaked the Gen 5 starter evolutions, this guy is going to prison if true.

2) Its too early for half of that info to be revealed. He's just given up about a third of the game info. Ya no. Its all fake.

Yeah, Xander basically nailed it. I know most stuff 4chan leaks turns out to be false. And Chespin doesn't look worthy of a Grass/Flying-type evolution given the creature it's based on.
 
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Well, that's comforting. XD I thought it was just some 4chan member who might've gotten it from a leak somewhere...but the problem there is the "where the hell did he get this information from??"

Grass/Flying...pfft I hope that never happens to a grass starter. >___>

He's pretending to be from one of the Nintendo companies. Nintendo classifies this as Fraud and Theft, so if that guy really does work for them, this is 5 to 15 years. Not worth it.


EDIT: Someone on Pokejungle mentioned something I forgot. There is supposed to be a Grass GYM in X and Y, not a Grass E4 member, since there was a trailer of the PC traveling through what is speculated to be a Grass Type Gym. So easy bust there.
 
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He's pretending to be from one of the Nintendo companies. Nintendo classifies this as Fraud and Theft, so if that guy really does work for them, this is 5 to 15 years. Not worth it.


EDIT: Someone on Pokejungle mentioned something I forgot. There is supposed to be a Grass GYM in X and Y, not a Grass E4 member, since there was a trailer of the PC traveling through what is speculated to be a Grass Type Gym. So easy bust there.
I beleive the grass gym was speculation. Either way this is totally fake...these people should use their free time to create fan made games or something...
 

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Well, this is 4chan, what do you expect? It's reasonable to be skeptical of them when it comes to something like this, though I do admit that the effort put into it was indeed amusing, it almost got me falling for it, sadly. @_@;

That said though, speaking of gyms, I managed to think of an interesting topic: in what order would you like the gyms to appear by? For me, it's:

  1. Water
  2. Fire
  3. Grass
  4. Psychic
  5. Dark
  6. Rock
  7. Normal
  8. Dragon
Probably cliche and overused to have Dragons as last gym, but the battles are always fun, so I don't mind. XD

I want the gyms to be:
1. Ground
2. Poison
3. Psychic
4. Steel
5. Dragon or Normal (as one of the gyms does seem to be normal)
6. Fighting
7. Bug
8. Dark
since as the PTW shows the types listed need some more gym leaders, especially compared to the overused water gym.
 

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About the rumor, The "leak" is too perfect, imo. There is a Farfetch'd evolution, a Qwilfish evolution, Pinsir gets the treatment, Lapras a pre-evo, not to mention all the special type combinations we've been drooling over for so long. Everything appears to be just as we want it, and that is making me suspicious. It's also immensely detailed, kind of like a neatly organized wishlist passed out as a leak. We've seen plenty of elaborate wish lists in this thread, so it's clearly not impossible to create something detailed, yet believeable, and post it as "the real deal".

Keep in mind that the kids who've stayed with Pokémon since the very start are in their mid-twenties now. They know the patterns of GameFreak, they know the communities, and they follow the speculation. With a little determination, imagination and some time, they sure could create some damn convincing Fakemon and post them as real. We're not in the "Pikablu" or "Nidogod" era anymore. The Pokéfans of today know that the most believable claims are the least exaggerated ones. The Internet is quite full of recipes on how NOT to create a good rumour. All you have to do to stand out from the rest, and appear extremely credible in relation to the others, is being sparse on details and watching your grammar.

That being said, "Mr. XY" could be speaking the truth. The next reveal might shoot him down completely, or confirm what we've heard. The middle ground is extremely narrow given the amount of stuff he posted, so he is indeed balancing on the edge with this. Then again, anonymity => no repercussions. If he's just trolling, there will be no consequences to him. We will remember the incredibly detailed fake, not the guy behind it.


In any case, I do have ideas for E4 and Gyms myself:

1. Dark
2. Flying
3. Rock
4. Fighting
5. Poison
6. Ground
7. Ghost
8. Ice

With elite four:

1. Grass
2. Fire
3. Water
4. Electric
 

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If they do make a Dark type gym (which is LONG due) it should be a later gym. I would prefer it to be last.
 

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If they do make a Dark type gym (which is LONG due) it should be a later gym. I would prefer it to be last.

As much as we wish that there'll be a Dark-type Gym, if there ever is one... then it should have a more "city streets at night" theme for the Gym where things are broken and smashed, like what you'd normally see in impoverished places.

That's what I'd like to see as a Dark-type Gym, but as far as I'm concerned... when Pokémon on Facebook asked "What is your favorite type of Gym?" most people said other types, though I saw some say "Dark-type" as much as they wish for a Dark-type Gym.

Let's just hope that a Dark-type Gym will appear in Pokémon X and Y. ^^
 

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With the elite four this time around, part of me prefers them not to have any specific type at all. I know that's kind of copying the Champion, but I want a more challenging E4, not just "whip out a supereffective pokemon and gg". I understand that it'll be less original, sure, but the cost is minimal compared to tougher and possibly funner battles. XD

But that's the reason why the Elite 4 from the first three gens fell flat. They weren't using Pokemon associated with their specialized types, not to mention using 2-3 Pokemon from the same line, and it's also why we're in need for more diversity on certain types to prevent this from happening again. If they're going to make another Ghost type specialist, then they'll need to make more Ghost Pokemon.
 
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