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Old January 26th, 2013 (8:32 PM).
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Oh blimey, I just noticed Avishka's leaving message for a few months ahah. I guess I'll take over as leader for now 'till she returns and keep the user list updated. :)

Are we talking about Delibird? If so I have no idea what's going on with that thing lmao. It's one of those really confusing Pokémon that has such a unique niche that it feels like it should be incredibly useful, but in reality it just seems to be a bit of a let-down. Have there been any cases of a Delibird being used effectively? I'm use an Ice type club is the place to ask since someone must of used it in the past! It's a pretty cool Pokémon though I won't lie, just a tad confusing haha.
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Old January 27th, 2013 (1:42 AM).
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    Oh blimey, I just noticed Avishka's leaving message for a few months ahah. I guess I'll take over as leader for now 'till she returns and keep the user list updated.

    Are we talking about Delibird? If so I have no idea what's going on with that thing lmao. It's one of those really confusing Pokémon that has such a unique niche that it feels like it should be incredibly useful, but in reality it just seems to be a bit of a let-down. Have there been any cases of a Delibird being used effectively? I'm use an Ice type club is the place to ask since someone must of used it in the past! It's a pretty cool Pokémon though I won't lie, just a tad confusing haha.
    You're taking over? That's great! Avishka, askd me to try and keep the club going before she left but tbh , its slightly overwhelming

    Anyways as far as delibird goes my days on on pokemon battle revolution shown me deliberd. Has low, low potential in battle. It can learn some tms but frankly it's not really that much of a threat. Kind of a shame really
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    Old January 27th, 2013 (11:58 AM).
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      Yeah, many people hate the bird because it isn´t much of a threat. Seriously, some Pokémon I like end up getting hate (Castform...). To be honest, I don´t care if somebody laughs at me, but I will take a Castform in Random Matchup soon. SOON. SOOOOON.
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      Old January 28th, 2013 (8:43 PM).
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        Oh man, Ice is my favourite type. Could I join? :D
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        Because Ice is my favourite type, and hey- it doesn't seem like a bad idea to join!

        ° Which is your favorite Ice Type Pokemon and why?
        My favourite is Cloyster. It's great competetively, and I remember once it was stated, I think somewhere in the manga, a Cloyster's shell could survive the shock of a nuclear warhead. That's pretty darn sturdy. o.o Besides, I like it's design - based off of a Bivalve.
        ° Which Ice-type pokemon do you like the least?
        Smoochum. I don't know, never really seemed that appealing to me.
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        Old February 2nd, 2013 (8:50 PM).
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          Which is your favorite Ice Type Pokemon and why?
          Lapras because I like Lapras desgin and stats they are both really good :D

          Which Ice-type pokemon do you like the least?
          Ummm Delibird I guess
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          Old February 5th, 2013 (7:32 PM).
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            @pokemanmdj and shayminlover123 welcome to the club guys! :D

            Ok guys, I see we havnt had a new topic in some time so i'd like to suggest one:

            How would you buff ice types in general to improve in battle?

            This could range from more moves, to more stats, are more type adv and disadvantages.
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            Old February 9th, 2013 (10:17 AM).
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            New members have been added on Avishka's behalf; welcome to you both! :) I'm so glad there's another Cloyster fan eee, that thing is an utter beast in competitive!

            How would you buff Ice types in general...? Ehh, I'll be honest I have no idea lmao. It's not a question I ever expected to be asked! I think they're renowned for being quite fast and hard-hitting with lots of special effective bonuses, but perhaps they're generally quite lacking in defensive capabilities? As far as I know Ice doesn't have many resistances and the Pokémon don't usually have very high defences either, so I guess I'd counteract this by giving Ice type a few more resistances! At the moment it only resists Ice, but I think it'd be logical to make it resist Water too since it'd just freeze the incoming water. It could probably resist Grass for similar reasons of hindering the Grass-nature of the attacks when they come close/make contact, and I'm pretty sure a Bug couldn't do much to a block of Ice either. So I'd make Ice resistant to Ice, Water, Grass & Bug in an ideal world! But hey, what're you gonna do haha.
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            Old February 11th, 2013 (10:00 PM).
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              Those resistances sound reasonable . Cuz like currently if I recall correctly, Ice only resists itself.

              Well what comes to mind first when buffing ice types is to give them a move that 100% freezes or a high chance to freeze. Any thoughts on that?
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              Old February 14th, 2013 (11:10 AM).
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                How would you buff ice types in general to improve in battle?


                Seriously? yesh.
                Because of a move that replaced many of our Ice-Pokémon, it is kinda sad. I'm talking about Hidden Power Ice. Who is mostly used against dragons. Besides Abomaslow and speedy Weavile and Mamoswagg, others are underestimated.
                I don't see so many update for Ice moves. And I agree with CourageHound, they should put a new move like:
                - 60% to freeze.
                - Or even something who -2 speed
                - Or... a move that can burn the oppenent (very interesting for physical pokémon, I mean Fighting moves who are strong against Ice type). You know how you feel when you touch snow on your hands? It is like fire!
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                Old February 15th, 2013 (4:17 AM).
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                Well what comes to mind first when buffing ice types is to give them a move that 100% freezes or a high chance to freeze. Any thoughts on that?
                This would be incredibly useful but I fear it'd also be extremely over-powered haha. At the moment I think the highest chance of freezing is 10% which is abysmal, but I think a 100% freezing move would be a step too far based on the pure power of freezing an enemy. Perhaps a move like Scald with a reasonable amount of power and a 30% chance of freezing would be enough to help balance this out a little? Or even a status move with the soul intention of freezing at around 75% like Will-o-Wisp probably wouldn't be too over the top... But a 100% accuracy move seems very unfair xD
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                Old February 15th, 2013 (12:15 PM).
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                  This would be incredibly useful but I fear it'd also be extremely over-powered haha. At the moment I think the highest chance of freezing is 10% which is abysmal, but I think a 100% freezing move would be a step too far based on the pure power of freezing an enemy. Perhaps a move like Scald with a reasonable amount of power and a 30% chance of freezing would be enough to help balance this out a little? Or even a status move with the soul intention of freezing at around 75% like Will-o-Wisp probably wouldn't be too over the top... But a 100% accuracy move seems very unfair xD
                  I explaind myself in a bad way :c
                  I thought about the hypnosise/Will-o-Wisp move which is 75% accuracy I think, and makes the oppenent sleeps/burns. What about a same move for Ice type? A non-damage move for sure.
                  Or in the same way as Scald as you said Squeaky. It would be a nice suggestion to make Ice type less weaker against fight type/moves. We know how many weakness they have, I'm sure it would be so useful.
                  Anyway. Let's see that on the 6th. I really hope they will fix it, because I really love Ice Pokémon c:
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                  Old February 26th, 2013 (7:24 PM).
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                    This would be incredibly useful but I fear it'd also be extremely over-powered haha. At the moment I think the highest chance of freezing is 10% which is abysmal, but I think a 100% freezing move would be a step too far based on the pure power of freezing an enemy. Perhaps a move like Scald with a reasonable amount of power and a 30% chance of freezing would be enough to help balance this out a little? Or even a status move with the soul intention of freezing at around 75% like Will-o-Wisp probably wouldn't be too over the top... But a 100% accuracy move seems very unfair xD
                    Haha I guess thats pretty reasonable. Although in like the anime you get hit by ice beam you get frozen alll the time . Well anyway I think what ice types need most at the moment is more versatility.
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                    Old March 1st, 2013 (2:51 PM).
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                      Let's make a new topic to keep this club alive, for Avishka <3~

                      Since hail teams are not so used in OU, what do you think about hail teams? What kind of uptades should they make to make it competitive?



                      I'm used to play on PO (PokémonOnline) and here, in my opinion are the most used weather teams.

                      Rain>Sand>Sun>Hail
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                      Old March 2nd, 2013 (6:07 AM).
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                      Hail teams are always a lot of fun to use and they give me an excuse to throw my favourite fatties at people like Walrien and Abomasnow so they're definitely a team I love using! I'm aware they never come up in OU, especially with their key player Abomasnow being UU, but I find they still work perfectly well against most teams. The only problem I've found with using Hail as opposed to other weathers is the lack of diversity that comes up in the teams; it's always the same basic set up with one or two small changes but it's hard to keep the teams interesting when there's so few valid Pokémon to choose from. Does anyone here use any quirky Pokémon in their Hail teams?
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                      Old March 4th, 2013 (10:54 PM).
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                      Ice-type Pokemon are cool. Nothing else can be cooler than these cool freezing bodies of ice. Brrrr. :3

                      Answer the current topic!: Since hail teams are not so used in OU, what do you think about hail teams? What kind of updates should they make to make it competitive?
                      I think hail teams are alright. I've never used a hail team before, but it sounds like it's a good team strategy, especially teams which are heavy on ice-types. About the updates....perhaps all ice-types in a hail team could regain a little HP each turn no matter what their ability is. There shouldn't be a reason why hail shouldn't build up the health of ice-types! xD
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                      Old March 5th, 2013 (9:14 PM). Edited March 5th, 2013 by Boilurn.
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                        Ice-type in one of my favorite types, along with Water,

                        Answer the current topic!: Since hail teams are not so used in OU, what do you think about hail teams? What kind of updates should they make to make it competitive?
                        They do work sometimes. I used to have a team filled entirely of Ice types (Abomasnow, Mamoswine, Weavile, Cloyster, Froslass and Kyurem) so that I could use hail to great effect and fire off powerful Blizzards in the OU tier. I did have quite a few successes with this strategy. I probably should include Reuniclus and Sigilyph to my hail team as well, since they have abilities that avoid taking hail damage.
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                        Old March 12th, 2013 (1:59 AM).
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                        welcome to the club syn and Boilurn!!
                        i hope u have fun here!
                        I'll add you later! kinda busy right now!
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                        Old March 12th, 2013 (2:46 AM).
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                        Guess I'll answer the latest topic.

                        Since hail teams are not so used in OU, what do you think about hail teams? What kind of updates should they make to make it competitive?

                        I'm not the best competitive player, but Hail teams do have a nice niche such as being able to fire off powerful 100% accurate Blizzards, and some Ice-types have abilities that benefit from hail, such as Walrein's Ice Body and Froslass's Snow Cloak. Also including Pokemon with Magic Guard on the team can add to the extra diversity needed to deal with types Ice otherwise couldn't. Walrein is such a beast in hail, having the neat Ice Body for a little healing, combined with Leftovers make it hard to take down due to its good HP. Froslass and Glaceon are also some pretty deadly players due to their high Special Attack making Blizzard hit really hard, on top of getting STAB. Hail teams can be very strong when played correctly.
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                        Old March 17th, 2013 (11:33 AM).
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                        This is verging from the topic a little, but which Pokémon do you guys think work well with Ice types in a team? Ice is a very useful type indeed, especially combined with Hail support, but it's always so hard to find extra Pokémon to use to support them. What kind of Pokémon would you guys suggest looking into to support our Ice type warriors?
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                        Old March 21st, 2013 (12:29 AM).
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                          Why: I just like the winter season. I like snow, and here in Belgium it doesn't seem to stop... Another thing is that I can withstand the cold very good. Winter landscapes here are so beautiful. I live on the countryside and it is just marvelous then.
                          About the Pokémon: they are so "chill"
                          Some of them have really true elegance (like Articuno), others remind me of Christmas (like Abomasnow). I like how they look and battle like real warriors. I really hope for some more Ice-pokémon in the next generation and I also hope they will be obtainable earlier in the games!!!

                          Answer the current topic: Honestly, I can't really answer this one. I play the normal gameboy and nintendo games only. I always use a team that has all the hm's (no hm-slave) and can beat the Elite Four. So my team is always mixed up in terms of pokémontypes. But after defeating the E4 I do tend to create other teams, sometimes according to pokémontype.
                          I'm sorry I couldn't answer this topic better.

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                          Old March 26th, 2013 (6:29 AM).
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