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    Thought about this last night. Cinnabar has that destroyed lab with Mew documents. Inside, there are scientists that use very Rocket-like Pokemon. It's similar to the movie where Mewtwo destroys the Rocket's lab and escapes to some off-coast rickety ol' island-like cave thing to clone its own Pokemon (Cerulean Cave?)

    I'm just thinking that since the Mewtwo story wasn't really a "big thing" in R/B/Y (it was a small post-game side-quest with brief explanation, if you chose to read them, on Cinnabar Island), the company may have tried to better explain what occurred through the movies. Makes sense, anyway. Also, someone mentioned maybe they took over Silph Co. for the MasterBall... After Mewtwo's escape, is it not possible that they wanted the MasterBall to firmly capture and seal Mewtwo from ever disappearing again? Especially since in-game, Giovanni is automatically Badge Eight, meaning any caught Pokemon *has* to obey. If he used the MasterBall on his escaped-Mewtwo, it would have to obey him and conquering the world would never be easier for him.

    Gen VI ought to be a way for them to actually explain, sans movie references, what happened with Mewtwo, and if Team Rocket was ever involved as shown in the film (and minorly suggested in the games).

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    - Giovanni employs Rocket scientists to make the world's most powerful Pokemon from Mew's genes /non-canon
    - Scientific Lab on Cinnabar (with scientists carrying "traditional" Rocket Pokemon) is destroyed /canon&non-canon
    - Mewtwo escapes and isolates himself on an island /canon&non-canon
    - Silph Co. is taken over by Team Rocket and Giovanni. Silph Co. is famous for its PokeBall technology; thus, Giovanni was probably after a MasterBall /canon&speculation
    - Giovanni plotted to use the MasterBall against Mewtwo, his escaped "creation" /speculation

    And it's possible the new team (or maybe TR returns) finds the scattered papers at Cinnabar Lab and Mewbuu is the result of that? We shall see.

    Only thing I have to say is, Giovanni WAS after the Masterball. He wanted the company to make more for his plans to steal all the Pokemon and rule the world through force. That's not really a what if scenario, he was trying to steal the Masterball until you stop him.

    Whether it was for Mewtwo can be speculated, but he was after it cause it was the ultimate Pokeball.
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      Only thing I have to say is, Giovanni WAS after the Masterball. He wanted the company to make more for his plans to steal all the Pokemon and rule the world through force. That's not really a what if scenario, he was trying to steal the Masterball until you stop him.

      Whether it was for Mewtwo can be speculated, but he was after it cause it was the ultimate Pokeball.
      Imagine if one of those was used on the Team Rocket Meowth. I'd be curious what would happen if that story comes to pass one day, as he's already been tried in regular Pokéballs. But that's off-topic, so I won't comment further than that.

      So I've seen all sorts of names for this "Mewthree". What might GF use, based on what he know (unpredictability) of them?

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        Funny how Team Aqua (and Magma in Ruby) had the Masterball in their place but seemed to have forgotten it when they went to go get the Mascot (or their respective legendary for Emerald), would've been easier if they had just kept it...Cyrus just gave us the Master ball (well in Pt) because he didn't think he'll need it.

        Maybe the evil team should try using it again...

        Anyways on topic, I see this new Mewtwo forme/Mew clone having a higher Sp atk than Mewtwo's normal forme.
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          Mew + Mewtwo Fusion is a great idea. Although, it would almost be like fusing with itself. Since Black-Kyurem needs the DNA-Splicers to change, they have to include that item in future games. They might as well add new pokemon to use it.

          Mewtwo is so powerful it would make sense for this new one to be less powerful. If Mew and Mewtwo were fused, Mewthree could have the Mew Ability of learning EVERY ATTACK IN THE GAME with the reasonable down side of not being as powerful. A base stat total between 600 and 680.
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            'Mewthree' looks like Mewtwo fused with Kid Buu from Dragonball Z.

            Eh, interested to see what'll it turn out like.
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            So I've seen all sorts of names for this "Mewthree". What might GF use, based on what he know (unpredictability) of them?

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            Mewthree seems most likely. There's a lot of different things, but Mewthree or MewZ could be the only kind of options that I'd see them taking. Also alternatively, MewX, and MewY, based on the version you're playing!!
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            Mew + Mewtwo Fusion is a great idea.
            I personally think that would be a terrible idea. D:

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            Mewthree seems most likely. There's a lot of different things, but Mewthree or MewZ could be the only kind of options that I'd see them taking. Also alternatively, MewX, and MewY, based on the version you're playing!!
            Unless there's a significant difference between MewX and MewY a la Black Kyurem and White Kyurem, I don't really seem them using a different name for the same Pokémon. I think Mewthree would be the likely option, but it's also the most obvious. I do like MewZ though, especially when you say it fast. Mewzeeeee
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              Only thing I have to say is, Giovanni WAS after the Masterball. He wanted the company to make more for his plans to steal all the Pokemon and rule the world through force. That's not really a what if scenario, he was trying to steal the Masterball until you stop him.

              Whether it was for Mewtwo can be speculated, but he was after it cause it was the ultimate Pokeball.
              Yeah, I didn't really read what was going on in there :P I was seven or something, and when FRLG came along I just cruised through the text. If that's the case, then I'll continue to believe that what happened in the anime happened discretely in-game, too. I'd love if Gen VI would confirm or abolish any of these ideas and just tell us what the beans happened with that whole experiment.
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                I personally think that would be a terrible idea. D:


                Unless there's a significant difference between MewX and MewY a la Black Kyurem and White Kyurem, I don't really seem them using a different name for the same Pokémon. I think Mewthree would be the likely option, but it's also the most obvious. I do like MewZ though, especially when you say it fast. Mewzeeeee
                Many people thinks its a terrble idea but most would support it with a statement.

                Personally I think its a good idea, assuming it a de-evolution, as it means there will be new evolutions of the pokemon in the game. Although it is most likely that it just another pokemon or an evoltion.

                Forever's idea of two types of mewthree is quite far fetched. Sure enough in the last two games you would have to trade to get the complete collection but X and Y already have a unique legendary each and assuming mewthree will be a legendary, it would seem a bit much to make another set of unique legendaries.
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                  Forever's idea of two types of mewthree is quite far fetched. Sure enough in the last two games you would have to trade to get the complete collection but X and Y already have a unique legendary each and assuming mewthree will be a legendary, it would seem a bit much to make another set of unique legendaries.
                  That's why we have Cobalion/Virizion/Terrakion, Tornadus/Thundurus/Landorus, Reshiram/Zekrom/Kyurem, and even Victini/Keldeo/Meloetta/Genesect. 13 unique legendaries in Gen. IV. And you think 4 is Farfetch'd? (Pun intended.) Tornadus/Thundurus were game-specific, and Zekrom/Reshiram were game-specific. Having two Mewtwo Formes (or new entirely) in opposite games would match Generation V. If entirely new, they are your roamers. If Formes, we'll wait and see.

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                    That's why we have Cobalion/Virizion/Terrakion, Tornadus/Thundurus/Landorus, Reshiram/Zekrom/Kyurem, and even Victini/Keldeo/Meloetta/Genesect. 13 unique legendaries in Gen. IV. And you think 4 is Farfetch'd? (Pun intended.) Tornadus/Thundurus were game-specific, and Zekrom/Reshiram were game-specific. Having two Mewtwo Formes (or new entirely) in opposite games would match Generation V. If entirely new, they are your roamers. If Formes, we'll wait and see.

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                    I could see them having a MewX/Y/Z or alpha/beta/delta trio, all failed clones of Mew before they achieved Mewtwo. It does say Mewtwo was created after years of multiple gene splicing and DNA experiments. What did they manage to create in that multiyear window before Mewtwo?
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                      Hmmm...maybe this 'Mewthree' could be from a alternate reality, or universe. Where instead of escaping, Mewtwo decided to stay, and over time of experimenting. It was given the ability to evolve. Then even more expeirment which had a toll on Mewthree escaped. (This is where it gets fogy) but somehow travels to the other alternate universe, and sees what would of happened if it escaped and didn't evolve.

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                        Or what if after leaving the cave Mewtwo got recaptured by the evil team of this region, and experimented, to increase it's power so that it can compete against the gods of Hoenn, Sinnoh, and Unova (story wise, not stat wise). And this forme is the result.
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                        Hmmm...maybe this 'Mewthree' could be from a alternate reality, or universe. Where instead of escaping, Mewtwo decided to stay, and over time of experimenting. It was given the ability to evolve. Then even more expeirment which had a toll on Mewthree escaped. (This is where it gets fogy) but somehow travels to the other alternate universe, and sees what would of happened if it escaped and didn't evolve.

                        Or Evolution by Distortion World
                        Distortion world would need to return for that though... and I feel like with it being a specific home for Giratina it's unlikely it'll appear as a place for another Pokemon to evolve.
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                          That's why we have Cobalion/Virizion/Terrakion, Tornadus/Thundurus/Landorus, Reshiram/Zekrom/Kyurem, and even Victini/Keldeo/Meloetta/Genesect. 13 unique legendaries in Gen. IV. And you think 4 is Farfetch'd? (Pun intended.) Tornadus/Thundurus were game-specific, and Zekrom/Reshiram were game-specific. Having two Mewtwo Formes (or new entirely) in opposite games would match Generation V. If entirely new, they are your roamers. If Formes, we'll wait and see.

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                          I totally forgot about those pokemon. I am sorry for my misguided judgement.

                          Although looking at the movie (that would be based on the upcoming game), it looks like the 2nd pair of game specfic pokemon might be mew3 and the red genosect. Although the genosect is considered as a shiny and will probably be obtainable via wi-fi. So we could also say the mew3 could also be obtainable via wi-fi instead of obtaining it within the game. It could be an event at the release of the game.

                          Although it still could be posssibly introduced within the game.
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                            Only thing I have to say is, Giovanni WAS after the Masterball. He wanted the company to make more for his plans to steal all the Pokemon and rule the world through force. That's not really a what if scenario, he was trying to steal the Masterball until you stop him.

                            Whether it was for Mewtwo can be speculated, but he was after it cause it was the ultimate Pokeball.
                            Actually it's never explicitly stated, but, considering what the Silph president gives you, the "vital business proposition" Giovanni talked about seems to be the Master Ball. Even if it isn't, Giovanni would've had access to all Silph research after the takeover anyway, so he would've found out and would've attempted to mass produce it for his Rockets.
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                              I have to say I have no idea what to expect of this new Mew family member.

                              The only thing I REALLY hope is that, like some said on last page, they dig deeper into the whole mew/mewtwo story in-game.
                              I mean, look at the whole potential in that:

                              . An "ancient" pokémon (Mew) with every single pokémon's DNA on him (reason for his ability to learn any move)
                              . Scientists discover him in a deserted faraway island and atempt to capture him/get his dna
                              . They finally get a piece of his DNA and start experimenting with it in an atempt to create the most powerful pokémon ever (this is where team rocket could even be implicated)
                              . They succeed, however the pokémon is too powerful for them to control, and realises he is but a "weapon", which makes him hate humans and despise them (meanwhile, Mew disappears completely for a while)
                              . The pokémon escapes and goes to his own "secret island" where he creates an army of cloned pokémon to obey him and seeks revenge against the humans who used him and hurt him

                              Years later, all that is left is but a shadow of what happened on that island. It eventually became Cinnabar, and the remains of the laboratory are still there, beneath an abandoned Mansion.
                              Everything was destroyed by Mewtwo's wrath, but a few pages of an old diary still wonder around the mansion and laboratory. Shrouded in mistery, a few lines tell the fatidic tale of what happened on that island.

                              Not only this, but there are alot of "gaps" on the story I would love to see filled.
                              Apparently, the diary was written by Dr.Fuji who I believe is now Mr.Fuji.
                              Why? In the Cinnabar Island gym, there is a picture of Mr.Fuji and Blaine, who apparently were great friends. Well, Blaine's gym key is found at the mansion and Dr.Fuji's journal too, which suggests a connection between them, not to mention on the manga:
                              "Mewtwo was created by Blaine in a Team Rocket hideout using a small sample of Mew's DNA and Blaine's own."

                              This also suggests and association between Blaine, Team rocket and Dr/Mr.Fuji..
                              There is so much to be told. There are alot of little pieces that should add up and make a story here, I actually find it to be one of the most interesting and misterious subjects in pokémon history.
                              So, back to my original point, I would love to see this theme explored a whole lot more. I feel like gen I left the story "untold"
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                                I feel like this pokemon is mews evolved form. It floats rather than stands.
                                Which is more mewlike.

                                It looks just enough like mewtwo to where you can see how mewtwos appearance could come about after using mews DNA

                                Like sure they can clone mew and alter it a little but really, where DOES that appearance come from ?
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                                  I feel like this pokemon is mews evolved form. It floats rather than stands.
                                  Which is more mewlike.

                                  It looks just enough like mewtwo to where you can see how mewtwos appearance could come about after using mews DNA

                                  Like sure they can clone mew and alter it a little but really, where DOES that appearance come from ?
                                  Mewtwo can float as well. It just chooses to stand.

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                                  I'm really just not a form, and would be fine with it being related to Mewtwo (and possibly Mew??) as it is now. :x
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                                  If it's a new Pokemon we should probably expect even more Pokemon looking like older Pokemon, I'd think. People didn't totally hate it in gen 5 and Game Freak could've thought "YEAH LET'S DO IT NEXT TIME AROUND, TOO!" :x But with that in mind I doubt it which is why I doubt it's a new Pokemon lool.

                                  But yeah... I think it's related to original Mew's most likely. And could possibly bring around changes in the region with its mind control...?
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                                      I really like this annoucement, because this means that they're willing to touch Gen 1 Pokemon again, which I know they made a point of refusing to do in Gen 5. (so maybe they'll fix ahem alomomola/luvdisc & bouffalant/tauros this time) This means that Mewtwo will probably not be the only past Pokemon to get a relative/modification etc so I'm hoping for evolutions and prevolutions! like for lapras. This is why I really liked Gen 4, it introduced a nice bunch of new Pokemon (that I actually liked and thought fit in nicely with the rest) and a couple of badass evolutions.

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                                        I really like this annoucement, because this means that they're willing to touch Gen 1 Pokemon again, which I know they made a point of refusing to do in Gen 5. (so maybe they'll fix ahem alomomola/luvdisc & bouffalant/tauros this time) This means that Mewtwo will probably not be the only past Pokemon to get a relative/modification etc so I'm hoping for evolutions and prevolutions! like for lapras. This is why I really liked Gen 4, it introduced a nice bunch of new Pokemon (that I actually liked and thought fit in nicely with the rest) and a couple of badass evolutions.

                                        I'm excited and impatient I just want to know what we'll get already n_n
                                        Personally, I wish they'd do just the opposite and leave all Pokemon from Gen 1-4 alone, Gen 5 is the most recent so I wouldn't be surprised if they changed a few from there. Some of these Pokemon have been around from nearly 20 years without changing, so finding a believeable reason for a sudden change (such as this supposed new Mewtwo form) will be a challenge. As in Mewtwo's case, it's odd that it would need a new form so many years later just to face Genesect when it is supposed to be one of the most powerful Pokemon in the world. And seeing as how its opponent is the Extremespeed Genesect, it's too specific to say Mewtwo now has what seems to be hinting at a faster form just because of one opponent that happened to be faster that it.

                                        Myself, I don't like the idea of giving Mewtwo a new form, especially just so it can battle Extremespeed Genesect. If this is "Mewthree" and is a totally separate Pokemon, that would be interesting, but not a new form for a Pokemon that has not had one or needed one for so many years.
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