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Old April 23rd, 2013 (2:41 AM).
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Oh, my God! this is the best club ever, haha!

I took three years of French in Junior High and I forgot a lot of it. I hope to take it again next semester to refresh my skills. My parents worked in Paris (my sister is living there) and I've spent many vacations there. when I was visiting my sis month ago, there was nothing left to visit or surprize me :/

I listen to French music and have a wide collection of French Pokemon games (and that makes Sydian jealous). that's pretty much all about me and French for now, looking forward to some cool discussions
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Old April 23rd, 2013 (7:16 AM).
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    Subjonctif is a bit of an oddball, since in English we skip out on "that" a lot i.e. "The kid I like" is supposed to be "The kid that I like." Regardless it being there or not, it doesn't change how the verb looks either.

    Subjonctif is generally used after "que" and is popular with the verb "faut," "avant" and "apres."

    I find it to be a "feeling" conjugation, but you need to be comfortable with the language audibly and verbally in order to "feel" it right. If it sounds nice, go with it lol Otherwise, like with "Esperer," use the normal forms. It's a lot of practice.
    I just wanted to add:

    A nice rule about the subjonctif is this: You use it after expressing feelings, personal statements (opinions) and wishes.

    Some verbs, that always require the use of the subjonctif are these:

    trouver que
    accepter que
    admirer que
    aimer que
    désirer que
    détester que
    critiquer que
    préférer que
    vouloir que
    ne pas croire que
    etc. etc.

    I always thought that the subjonctif wasn't so hard once I knew that you use it when talking about feelings, opinions and wishes.
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    Old April 23rd, 2013 (9:22 AM).
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      no grey coupons on hand, lol

      Oh, my God! this is the best club ever, haha!

      I took three years of French in Junior High and I forgot a lot of it. I hope to take it again next semester to refresh my skills. My parents worked in Paris (my sister is living there) and I've spent many vacations there. when I was visiting my sis month ago, there was nothing left to visit or surprize me :/

      I listen to French music and have a wide collection of French Pokemon games (and that makes Sydian jealous). that's pretty much all about me and French for now, looking forward to some cool discussions ;)
      Welcome to the Club! Quite the variety of people here already; glad to have you as part of us.



      Quote:
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      I just wanted to add:

      A nice rule about the subjonctif is this: You use it after expressing feelings, personal statements (opinions) and wishes.

      Some verbs, that always require the use of the subjonctif are these:

      trouver que
      accepter que
      admirer que
      aimer que
      désirer que
      détester que
      critiquer que
      préférer que
      vouloir que
      ne pas croire que
      etc. etc.

      I always thought that the subjonctif wasn't so hard once I knew that you use it when talking about feelings, opinions and wishes.
      That's a pretty good list you have there, Chatot! I find Imparfait and Subjonctif are two of the most difficult tenses for anglophones to understand because they don't really exist in English. This should help a lot of people ★
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      Old April 23rd, 2013 (9:55 AM).
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      Now it does seem pretty easy considering the feeling/opinion/wish rule. I think I might just have ended up with a dégoût of the subjonctif during classes. I remember scoring really badly on the test... and it still gives me a bitter taste in the mouth when I hear "subjonctif".
      It doesn't exist in Dutch either, the subjonctief that is. I do, however, think the imparfait exists.
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        Old April 23rd, 2013 (5:34 PM). Edited April 23rd, 2013 by Yusshin.
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          Old May 14th, 2013 (3:31 PM).
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          Hello! Yusshin's alt' here. I won't be logging on to Yusshin henceforth except to perhaps edit the Member's List.

          Just a small video update. I posted it in the Ghibli thread a while back, but it's pertinent here, too:



          Beautifully done!

          Anyone have a most hated verb? Hard to use, hard to conjugate; anything, really.



          Also, yay for Eiffel Tower and French stuff (Froakie for Frenchies lol) in X&Y!
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          Old May 23rd, 2013 (8:24 AM).
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          Anyone have a most hated verb? Hard to use, hard to conjugate; anything, really.



          Also, yay for Eiffel Tower and French stuff (Froakie for Frenchies lol) in X&Y!
          Anything irregular. You thought you knew it all... Suddenly I'm not a normal child and I must be conjugated differently. >___>
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          Old May 23rd, 2013 (7:42 PM). Edited May 23rd, 2013 by Belldandy.
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          Teehee.

          But I guess in English, it's too similar to tell. Really now.

          I run
          You run
          She runs
          We run
          They run

          Only third person you have to really watch out for. Past tense? Ran, ran, ran!

          Then there's no feminine, masculin or neutral. No "e"s on stuff because of something being feminine either. English is much less complicated grammar-wise than French (and other languages, sure) is.

          I remember in Grade Four we would have contests. Everytime you answered something correctly, you'd get a bonhomme sourire (happy face). You'd write your name on it and it'd go in the bucket. On Fridays, if your name was drawn, you got something nice: candy, eclairs, doughnuts; those kinds of things. I won once so I was happy but the more you knew, the better your odds... Except when you were Dylan Pitri and always getting chosen and thus winning weeks in a row as a result. Others knew as much as him, but for some reason the teacher played favourites. Grr.

          Oh, well.



          Ever seen this guy?



          Best part:

          Voice: "Do you want a Coke?"
          Thinking: ... Euhhh... Si je veux de la Coke ? Euhh, mais la, ca doit etre une piege d'american ca... vas-y, reponds 'non'.
          Guy: "Euh, no, I... I want euh... Coca Cola..."
          Thinking: Et ouais, tu m'auras pas !

          xD
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          Old June 2nd, 2013 (10:28 AM).
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          Oh goodness. Picking favorites. I hate that so much.

          Anyways, yesterday, all 8 years of French I learned paid off. I had a guest come up to me at work, and she asked me if I spoke French. At that point, I assisted her. Entirely in French. I felt really good after that, being able to accommodate to someone's needs, especially to speak other languages.
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          Old June 2nd, 2013 (11:03 AM).
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          Must be really great TF! Sometimes I feel the same after talking to someone in English.
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          Old June 2nd, 2013 (12:35 PM).
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          That's fantastic, Team Fail. I guess that's what we can call an curriculum success story?

          I've already worked in Quebec and all, but before that I felt very good to be the only one around able to serve customers in French. I had a few people at Walmart who spoke French and I was happy to be able to serve them in their language of choice; they were quite happy, too!

          It really is a wonderful feeling
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