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Old April 23rd, 2013 (7:44 PM).
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    As revealed in the new Pokemon movie we see him change form on his own under the stress of a powerful opponent does this mean that for the form change will be "in a pinch" like Darmanitan
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      No idea. It's definitely an interesting side discussion. Very possible, too! Though I'm not sure I like that it only happens in a pinch, i.e. when weak.

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      More times than most, the reason behind a Pokémon altering its form in the anime is usually different than how its done in the games. I'm guessing we'll probably need an item for Mewtwo to be able to transform into its Awakened Form. There could always be the possibility of a new ability or move that triggers the transformation too.

      PS. Merged your thread here where discussion on Mewtwo's new form is already taking place, Photonman.
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      Agreeing with Shivi here. It's more than likely that we'll probably need an item for Mewtwo to go into its new Form, but I don't imagine it to be anything like how Giratina needs the Grisceous (?) Orb in order to go into Origin Form. .__. At least, I hope not.
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      There could also be a cave of some sort where it could awaken in, but idk. There's a lot of options there where it could awaken...

      ...maybe even from gen 5's Dream World and magically transport here??
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      I'm hoping Dream World really doesn't get utilized as a method of changing forms, no offense or anything like that, Nica. :( I think most of us grew tired of DW by the time BW2 rolled around, but I can only really speak for myself in that regard, I suppose.

      That said though, it's possible that you could use an item to change Mewtwo into its alternate form and then change it back, kind of like Shaymin and the Gracidea Flower, or did the Gracidea Flower had to be a hold item too? I thought it was an item with unlimited uses, so correct me there if I'm wrong.
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      I'm assuming that it will be some sort of item that will change it's form. Probably something similar to Giratina's Griseous Orb, that when held it changes its form as well as boosting it's STAB moves. If not, maybe something similar to the meteors for the different Deoxys forms?
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      I'm assuming that it will be some sort of item that will change it's form. Probably something similar to Giratina's Griseous Orb, that when held it changes its form as well as boosting it's STAB moves. If not, maybe something similar to the meteors for the different Deoxys forms?
      The last method would be vastly preferred. See, if it were to transform via Griseous Orb, I feel that could be severely limit its overall potential. That means it can't run things like LO sets or even have leftovers, in that regard. u___u
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      I think Mewtwo will probably just be beaten up by Genesect and then change formes in order to beat it and protect the city or Ash & co. iirc Giratina could change formes at will whenever it entered the Distortion World, so in the anime it doesn't seem they need items.
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      I think Mewtwo will probably just be beaten up by Genesect and then change formes in order to beat it and protect the city or Ash & co. iirc Giratina could change formes at will whenever it entered the Distortion World, so in the anime it doesn't seem they need items.
      But in the games, it's different somehow. Giratina needs the Griseous Orb, and I'm willing to bet that Mewtwo would need an item of some sort to transform, regardless of what the anime shows. u___u
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        But in the games, it's different somehow. Giratina needs the Griseous Orb, and I'm willing to bet that Mewtwo would need an item of some sort to transform, regardless of what the anime shows. u___u
        Well, Gen 4's are pretty accurate. Giratina needs the Griseous orb only outside of the Torn World. Which was true in the Movie as Giratina switches forms between the two worlds from Origin to Altered. Shaymin also needed to be in contact with the flower during the day in order to maintain his form.

        Best comparison would be Deoxys and Kyurem who have drasticly different changes in game than in Movie as both can freely switch between forms while in the games they need Item/Games and Item/Pokemon to change forms.
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          I see Deoxys formes being more location than item. Rotom is more item without the actual item xD. Hopefully Mewtwo's formes will be like Deoxys (I don't see it entering anything...very like that there'll be no Rotomesk transformation for Mewtwo).

          Now what could that other forme that's suppose to be in the hexagon be?
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          Honestly, now that I've given it some bit of thought, I just think that Mewtwo's form would probably be activated via some sort of hold items which is actually kind if ridiculous in my opinion but... I guess, whatever GF wants to do. u___u;;; If they did the same with Arceus and it's plates (though truth be told, Arceus did need its plates in the movie, but only to negate and nullify attacks), then chances are they'd probably do the same with Mewtwo, here.

          I don't know, just my reasoning behind it.
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            I see Deoxys formes being more location than item. Rotom is more item without the actual item xD. Hopefully Mewtwo's formes will be like Deoxys (I don't see it entering anything...very like that there'll be no Rotomesk transformation for Mewtwo).

            Now what could that other forme that's suppose to be in the hexagon be?
            There probably isn't another since this forme is getting all the hype. Its probably Mewtwo and the new Mewtwo form IF they post anything in it.

            I see either an attack or an item since Mewtwo simply changes in the movie.
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            I think an attack akin to Relic Song for Meloetta would be a cool thing. Maybe some lower based power Psychic move to change forms would be fun.
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            I think an attack akin to Relic Song for Meloetta would be a cool thing. Maybe some lower based power Psychic move to change forms would be fun.
            Agreeing with this! I'm thinking that Mewtwo might gain a special attack of some sort with this form change~! I'm thinking...Psyblast, maybe? A base 120 Psychic-type move, and utilizing it allows it to transform into it's Awakened form, or would that be a bit too much?
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              Agreeing with this! I'm thinking that Mewtwo might gain a special attack of some sort with this form change~! I'm thinking...Psyblast, maybe? A base 120 Psychic-type move, and utilizing it allows it to transform into it's Awakened form, or would that be a bit too much?
              Actually since Mewtwo takes his time and puts his hands over his chest to either focus or look like he's in prayer, why not a stat enhancing attack rather than a damaging one?

              Like a special Stat enhancing one that raises X stat and then changes to Awakened form?
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              Actually since Mewtwo takes his time and puts his hands over his chest to either focus or look like he's in prayer, why not a stat enhancing attack rather than a damaging one?

              Like a special Stat enhancing one that raises X stat and then changes to Awakened form?
              This would also make sense! n__n I imagine it raising Special Attack, something like Calm Mind? I'd be hesitant on saying it would probably raise his defenses, especially since his Special Attack is high enough already and raising his defenses would probably make him a tad bit untouchable...
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              Actually since Mewtwo takes his time and puts his hands over his chest to either focus or look like he's in prayer, why not a stat enhancing attack rather than a damaging one?

              Like a special Stat enhancing one that raises X stat and then changes to Awakened form?
              That'd be a cool implementation. Maybe just raise it's Special Attack by one stage, plus give it the form change? It'd definitely be cool to see. Or if it appears to be focusing, maybe the Special Attack gain plus it has the same effects of Focus Energy, since, well, it's focusing?
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                Increase of Special attack and the effect of focus energy sound good, not too lame and not to overpowering like Quiver Dance...
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                That'd be a cool implementation. Maybe just raise it's Special Attack by one stage, plus give it the form change? It'd definitely be cool to see. Or if it appears to be focusing, maybe the Special Attack gain plus it has the same effects of Focus Energy, since, well, it's focusing?
                Way too overpowered. D: That's basically turning this thing into a hax machine. x_x;
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                Way too overpowered. D: That's basically turning this thing into a hax machine. x_x;

                D: Erm, we REALLY do not need another? Pokemon that's going to get overpowered...or else this thing will be in a tier all on it's own =x
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                  I wonder if it's ability will change like Giratina and Kyurem's or if it'll stay the same.
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                  I wonder if it's ability will change like Giratina and Kyurem's or if it'll stay the same.
                  That'd be cool. It kinda looked like it was hovering so maybe give it Levitate like Giratina got. Then again that doesn't mean much (Mew having Synchronize for example), but it'd make sense I guess.
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                  I agree with Jake here. At least give it Levitate so it can switch in on EQ-users, but I think that's as far as it should go on the "overpowered" scale (depending on actual transformation methods, and on whether or not it utilizes a move to transform rather than an item. I'm really hoping it's the latter on this one, since it needs to be nerfed down, somehow).
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