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    Heatmor is just...a ridiculous Pokemon in general. Not that it's that terrible to use, but it's just awkward. I honestly feel that giving it an evolution wouldn't hurt anyone, but it's hard to imagine what that thing could evolve into, really. .__. I think that it would be better if Heatmor perhaps gained a second typing in it's evo to help it in battle, but if not, then I'm fine with it being pure fire.
    Other than Heatmor, I think they should tie a few loose ends and make Kangaskhan the final evolution in the Cubone line as it was originally supposed be. I know that brings it's own issues and there was a reason why they weren't in the same line in the first place (the whole mother's skull thing is downright disturbing) but there's no reason as to why Cubone's pokedex entry has to mention that.
    Maybe a common pre-evo for Volbeat and Illumise and Plusle and Minun as they're both from gen 3? A common pre-evo for Emogla and Pachurisu would be nice considering they're both electric squirrels. Too many possibilities...
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      Adding a evolutionary stage to Marowak and Kangashkan is imo too late to do that. They had 4 Generations to do it. A pre-evo for Illumise and Volbeat that can evolve in both would be cool. The male one into Volbeat and the female into Illumise.
      Furthermore an evolution to Cryogonal, Delibird, Sudowoodo and Stunfisk.

      Please give that poor thing (Stunfisk) an evolution, it will do better.
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        I have quite the list, so I'm going to start off with the ones that I know WON'T HAPPEN:

        - (Tying a lose end) Luvdisc into Alomomola would be amazing, not only would it make sense, it would tie them both up.

        - A dragon eeveelution. Although not entirely out of the question, I just don't see it happening, even though it'd be nice.

        - Shuckle. I don't think it will be possible due to this guy having the greatest defense ever, by himself. It'd still be nice though...

        - Emolga evolution. This guy looks like he needs an evolution. Still probably not happening.

        Now for a few plausible ones:

        - A steel type eeveelution (and perchance a few others). The reason I find this plausible is because, unlike Dragon types, Steel isn't a pseudo legend type, making it more plausible, especially with the release of Sylveon.

        - Druddigon evolution or pre-evolution. This is the ONLY dragon type to not have one and it made almost no sense that he didn't. That's why this seems a bit more plausible.


        I don't think I can say anything else that someone else hasn't. In closing, Pinsir evoltution would be very cool. Wait, what? Not even on my own topic, ah well.
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        Old May 1st, 2013 (1:05 PM).
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          But that aside, Pinsir gaining steel as a type is a fair double-edged sword. One would normally assume that Pinsir would become Bug/Fighting much like it's "twin", Heracross. But again, I feel that it has to separate itself, instead of being some sort of useless Heracross clone, so to speak. .___. So I do slightly/somewhat agree with its evo receiving steel as a type; it actually does eliminate SR weakness, but it does have some drawbacks. Getting rid of Bug's Fire resistance is one of them, along with getting rid of the ground resistance, but I feel that the resistances gained is bigger than the resistances lost here, so I'd say it's a win/win.

          Just keep the evo away from Fire-types, as usual. xD

          Uh...Bug is weak to fire...not resistant. Bug/Steel has takes x4 damage from Fire attacks. I also have always seen Pinsir as a ground type more so hopefully if it evolves, it'll be Bug/Ground.

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          I have quite the list, so I'm going to start off with the ones that I know WON'T HAPPEN:

          - (Tying a lose end) Luvdisc into Alomomola would be amazing, not only would it make sense, it would tie them both up.

          - A dragon eeveelution. Although not entirely out of the question, I just don't see it happening, even though it'd be nice.

          - Shuckle. I don't think it will be possible due to this guy having the greatest defense ever, by himself. It'd still be nice though...


          Now for a few plausible ones:

          - A steel type eeveelution (and perchance a few others). The reason I find this plausible is because, unlike Dragon types, Steel isn't a pseudo legend type, making it more plausible, especially with the release of Sylveon.
          Luvdisc and Alomomola really don't make sense. The whole thing for it is based on look alone...well ok then Shellder and Cloyster should be related to gastly. The pearl bodies are exactly like Gastly's body. They aren't even close enough body wise. They share a similar heart pattern, but Alomomola's goes into such great detail and is based off of a sunfish, while Luvdisc is just so plain and hardly looks like a fish at all.

          Shuckle can evolve. They can easily shift and lower stats. Evolve means to change and adapt. Shuckle can eventually evolve to the point that it doesn't need so much defense. Shifting points from defense to offense and adding more points into speed due to loss of the shell and gain of more mobility as well as add more points to health and attack/Sp. Atk.

          They do stat shifts with Scyther and Scizor since they have the same BST. Some Pokemon even shift the focus. One lower form can be based on attack and when it evolves its stats reorganize to fit in with Special Attack instead. Its not a very uncommon trait that Pokemon share.

          As for steel...Metagross is a Psuedo legendary Pokemon so Steel could be seen as Psuedo legend focus. Some of the more powerful steel types are legendary Pokemon just like Psychic and Dragon. It doesn't have as many non legend related Pokemon as Psychics though they are common types for Legends. So it can be seen as a psuedo legendary type. As for eevee, its possible for it to evolve into any type. That's just part of the charm.

          I doubt Sylveon is Steel type though and there doesn't seem to be any other Eevee evolution appearing in Gen 6 based on marketing so far. Future is still possible though.
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            How about a Sandslash evolution? GF seem to be focusing on gen 1 so far (Eevee and Mewtwo) so why not? It has Okay stats but they could definitely be improved upon. It's movepool isn't great and, lets face it, it isn't in general. There's definitely a LOT of room for improvement in this Pokemon. Imagine how cool it would look!
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            Old May 2nd, 2013 (3:17 AM). Edited May 2nd, 2013 by Golden Warrior.
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              Luvdisc and Alomomola really don't make sense. The whole thing for it is based on look alone...well ok then Shellder and Cloyster should be related to gastly. The pearl bodies are exactly like Gastly's body. They aren't even close enough body wise. They share a similar heart pattern, but Alomomola's goes into such great detail and is based off of a sunfish, while Luvdisc is just so plain and hardly looks like a fish at all.
              Not exactly what I meant. Yes, how they look is part of it. But they are both fish and water type only. Although that is pretty much the only base for the speculation, again, I did say it had little to no chance of happening.

              I can see where you were going with the pseudo legend typing though. (Although, I've come to realize that no matter what we speculate, Game Freak can do whatever they want...)
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                If Pinsir gained a secondary type, I'd hope it would not be Steel or Fighting like Scizor/Heracross, but the third, even more appropriate and unique type: Dark O:!
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                  Dark and ground (as Xander suggested) work too tbh. Pinsir is one of those Pokémon that I feel if it were to get an evolution it's typing can be around with.
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                    I said about the bug/dark combo in the other thread. Pretty much evil and deadly. Fighting and bug weakness gets removed leaving behind flying/fire/rock. I think pinsir is pretty defensive as well so it can take some hits.
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                      Simple ground would be enough, and maybe they'll boost it's speed to actually get an attack past.
                      Also for the Dugtrio evolution, maybe they could evolve it into something we don't imagine, sort of like Torchic to Blaziken or Oshawott to Samurot.
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                        Simple ground would be enough, and maybe they'll boost it's speed to actually get an attack past.
                        Also for the Dugtrio evolution, maybe they could evolve it into something we don't imagine, sort of like Torchic to Blaziken or Oshawott to Samurot.
                        i really hope that if they make a dugtrio it would sothing more creative then a nine diglets, like what they did to magneton
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                          i really hope that if they make a dugtrio it would sothing more creative then a nine diglets, like what they did to magneton
                          Well Magneton is basically the three Magnemites fused together into one unit, literally. Sooo...Maybe Dugtrio's evo will be one enormous, one-eyed Diglet .-.
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                            Well Magneton is basically the three Magnemites fused together into one unit, literally. Sooo...Maybe Dugtrio's evo will be one enormous, one-eyed Diglet .-.
                            i really hope that if there is a dugtrio evolution we will see this thing's whole body
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                              Hoping to get an evolution for each of the following (I know this is a bit much to ask for):
                              -Qwilfish
                              -Grumpig
                              -Camerupt
                              -Primeape
                              -Chimecho
                              -Farfetch'd
                              -Sandslash
                              -Mightyena
                              -Sunflora
                              -Banette
                              -Electrode
                              -Ariados
                              -Ledian
                              -Skarmory
                              -Mantine
                              -Heatmor
                              -Durant
                              -Beheeyem

                              Mostly I just want a Mightyena evolution because I love that thing. There are many Pokemon who would make sense to have a pre-evolution, but I'm not a big fan of pre-evos anyway.
                              It's not really a lot, the 4th gen had 22 new pokemon which were evolutions of older pokemon. (That's not even counting the baby forms of older pokemon...)

                              We could easily see a similar number of older pokemon evolving again.
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                                I'm hoping they'll be more creative with it and make the fusion more like Metagross, they link up in other pieces of the body like maybe two of them become hands sort of like with Hydreigon.
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                                  I thought I'd just run through all the ideas I've had for evolutions and pre-evolutions of old Pokémon! I would like to see Game Freak refine and develop previous Pokémon as well as introducing many more creatures this generation. I posted something similar on a previous thread, but this post makes a lot more sense here. These are my ideas:

                                  - It would be nice if Vulpix got a pre-evolution! Name and design suggestions would be cool!
                                  - A water/psychic evolution to Golduck would be nice too! Maybe a purple colour, with lots of jewels! Name suggestions would be nice again!
                                  - A fighting/flying Farfetch'd evolution would be amazing, called R'duckulus, with longer legs with bandages wrapped around them.
                                  - Maybe a poison/dark evolution of Muk called Tarr?
                                  - Maybe a psychic/dark evolution to Hypno called Tyzer?
                                  - Maybe a water/rock evolution of Kingler?
                                  - Maybe a poison/dark evolution of Weezing called Choaking?
                                  - I would love Tangela to have a grass/ground type pre-evolution called Tangulb, that looks like a plant bulb with eyes and feet!
                                  - I would also like a psychic type Mr. Mime evolution called Mstr. Mime.
                                  - We all know it's about time Jynx got an evolution, probably keeping the ice/psychic typing!
                                  - I think Tauros and Miltank should get the same pre-evolution, seeing as they have the same base stats and all Tauros are male, and all Miltank are female. It seems like they're meant to be parallels!
                                  - Lapras needs a water type pre-evolution!
                                  - I would love for there to be a poison type eeveelution called Fungeon (that's covered in mushrooms), and a ghost type eeveelution called Ghouleon. Maybe even a bug type evolution called Monarcheon (Based on the monarch butterfly). This is a little bit out there, but I'd also like a normal type pre-evolution of Eevee called Eon.
                                  - Sudowoodo should get a rock type evolution... Maybe even rock/grass type!
                                  - I would love Stantler to get a normal/ground evolution!
                                  - I would like a bug type Volbeat and Illumise pre-evolution called Fumblebee.
                                  - I would also love for Torkoal to get a fire/rock evolution (despite how many weaknesses it would have)...
                                  - I would really love for Banette to get a ghost type evolution called Shuppefeer.
                                  - A grass/ground Tropius evolution might be cool!
                                  - Chimecho should get a psychic/steel evolution, that looks like a large bell.
                                  - A water/dark evolution of Huntail and a water/psychic evolution of Gorebyss.
                                  - A flying type Chatot evolution would be nice...
                                  - Maybe an amazing electric/dark evolution to Zebstrika?
                                  - It would be nice if Throh and Sawk got a normal/fighting type pre-evolution, a bit like Tyrogue.

                                  As a side note, I would love the fairy type to be introduced, as we have dragon, and it actually makes sense, as a lot of old Pokémon would fit into this typing. Cleffa, Clefairy, and Clefable should now be purely fairy type, along with Igglybuff, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff, Happiny, Chansey, Blissey, Togepi and Audino. Lickitung, Lickilicky, Snorlax, Snubbull, Granbull, Skitty and Delcatty should be normal/fairy, and I also think Togetic and Togekiss should be fairy/flying. Bellossom should be grass/fairy type, along with Lilligant and Shaymin's land form. Misdreavus and Mismagius should become ghost/fairy, and Volbeat and Illumise should become bug/fairy. Swablu should be retyped as fairy/flying, and Milotic, Luvdisc, Phione and Alomomola should become water/fairy. I would also like to see Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf all become psychic/fairy type. Maybe Mienshao should become fighting/fairy type too, and Mawile should become steel/fairy! Gardevoir should also be retyped as psychic/fairy... And of course Sylveon will be this type, and maybe Xerneas will be fairy/ground with Yveltal being dark/flying? The moves that should become fairy moves are After You, Assist, Bestow, Charm, Heal Bell, Healing Wish, Heal Pulse, Lovely Kiss, Lucky Chant, Lunar Dance, Present, Refresh, Relic Song, Simple Beam, Softboiled, Sweet Kiss, Teeter Dance, Tickle and Wish.

                                  Of course, some of these are very unlikely, but I can dream! I wish I was Photoshop literate so I could actually make some of these creations! Let me know what you think!
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                                    For everyone wanting evos for Kricketot, Ariados, and Ledian, regional early route Bugs do not get addition evolutions, just like regional rodents and birds, for traditional reasons.

                                    For everyone wanting evos for Pokemon who have base stats over 465 (Camerupt, Skarmory, etc.), they're already competitively usable in OU, so there's no need to give them unnecessary evolutions. Just because it's happened to only a few Pokemon (Scyther, Rhydon, etc.) doesn't mean they'll do it again.

                                    For everyone wanting new evos/pre-evos to Kanto Pokemon (Sandslash, Pinsir, etc.), the chances of getting another Gen 1 remake with an updated dex to include 190 Pokemon, including all the cross gen evos/pre-evos to Kanto Pokemon, is possible, so it's important that Sylveon is the only Kanto cross gen evo in Gen VI, so would help GF add more Ghost and Dragon types into the updated Kanto dex, in order for Agatha and Lance to have better teams.

                                    It's best to focus on giving pre/evos to non-Kanto Pokemon, who do not fall under any traditions/patterns, such as Corsola, Sableye, and Chatot.
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                                      How is the updated Kanto dex with 190 counting evos and pre evos possible but the 465 bst Pokémon evolving is not? I think it's more possible we'll get another 465 bst pokémon evolving this generation as thus far Even gens have had at least one 465 + evolve.
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                                        How is the updated Kanto dex with 190 counting evos and pre evos possible but the 465 bst Pokémon evolving is not? I think it's more possible we'll get another 465 bst pokémon evolving this generation as thus far Even gens have had at least one 465 + evolve.
                                        It's because the chances of XY taking place in the same timeline as R/B/Y and R/S/E due to Mewtwo is more likely that a another Gen 1 remake is in the works. As for evos to BST 465 Pokemon, it's due to Evolite possibly making former standalone/1st stage Pokemon with OU-material stats game breakers. Evolite Skarmory, for example, could be the most broken Pokemon in the metagame if it ever recieved an evolution.
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                                        Agreed with Magmaruby. There is no real prediction factor you can take into account when it comes to GF's deciding what gets an evo (look at Porygon2). Also, there's nothing that tells me that what you (Pinkie-Dawn) say is the "rule" of getting an evo, so I can want a new evo all I want because there is a possibility it could happen.
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                                          Agreed with Magmaruby. There is no real prediction factor you can take into account when it comes to GF's deciding what gets an evo (look at Porygon2). Also, there's nothing that tells me that what you (Pinkie-Dawn) say is the "rule" of getting an evo, so I can want a new evo all I want because there is a possibility it could happen.
                                          Prediction factors do exist, not just on Pokemon, but also on everything else irl. The point about models is to allow us to understand, explain, and predict what will happen from a logical standpoint based on years of research from past events, and GF's methods on Pokemon pre-evos/evos are no exception. We can't blindly pick which Pokemon should have an evolution without proper research on the pokemon in question, or else we'll be solely disappointed, or flat out despise the game altogether, if that wish didn't come true. I have seen this before with other games with huge rosters.
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                                            Prediction factors do exist, not just on Pokemon, but also on everything else irl. The point about models is to allow us to understand, explain, and predict what will happen from a logical standpoint based on years of research from past events, and GF's methods on Pokemon pre-evos/evos are no exception. We can't blindly pick which Pokemon should have an evolution without proper research on the pokemon in question, or else we'll be solely disappointed, or flat out despise the game altogether, if that wish didn't come true. I have seen this before with other games with huge rosters.
                                            Stats do not matter when it comes to evolving Pokemon. The Eviolite does not matter in evolving Pokemon. If Gamefreak wants to evolve anything then they will. There is little logic in Pokemon predictions. A camerupt evolution is as possible as Pachirisu getting an evolution or Stunfisk or Eevee. If they wanted to give Shuckle an evolution, they will. There are no factors outside of legend status that prevents future chances for evolution. The only other thing that hasn't been broken yet is stone evolution. Gamefreak can still break it this gen. Won't make sense but they will if they want to.
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                                              Besides IF the evolite really stands in GF's way of evolving a Pokémon they could always removed it (items have vanished between generations before).
                                              Also on the topic of models as I've said we've had at least one 465+ evolve every even generation so one could say that's a model for gen 6.
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                                                I agree to xander. Gf will do wtevr it likes. They can evolve shuckle and make shuckle ****ing more defensive. But gf would make some pkmns that would counter evolite shuckle.
                                                Same fr sableye. Gf make evolite sableye, on the other hand, they will make counters for it (like an ability that makes a pkmn immune to status ailments.)
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