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Well as I previously suggested, when you start the game they could give you difficulty options

1.Normal
2.Pokemon Master

If you pick Normal you get the kid mode game, you pick Pokemon Master you get the beast mode weather elite four and legitimately challenging gym leaders & everything
It'd be better if the 'kid mode' remained as the main game and the rematches contained this level of challenge.

As long as the E4 has the right balance between their level of OP in Gen I and their underleveled teams in every Gen since, I don't care which order we fight them in.
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    Elite Four should have themes instead of types. Sandstorm, Sun, Rain, Hail, then Trick Room.
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      I hated the extremely easy Elite Four of B/W/B2/W2. I'd like to see a more traditional Elite Four, where you have to face them in ascending order of difficulty.

      As for types, I'd like to see:
      Elite Four 1: Normal
      Elite Four 2: Steel
      Elite Four 3: Dark
      Elite Four 4: Dragon

      As for the actual members of the Elite Four, I'd like to see something a bit different. Specifically, the new Elite Four needs to have a real background. Maybe the whole thing could be a conspiracy, and the Elite Four could turn out to be homicidal maniacs, like in the manga.
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      Since the games are catered to kids primarily, I severely doubt that would ever happen (although I would love to see a more serious Pokémon game, like I would love it). I do like your typings for the most part though (maybe not a Dragon final member since that's kind of getting overdone =P).
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      Jake is probably right, since kids are still the primary customers, i don't think they'll be including a homicidal Elite 4. I love the idea though of there being a twist to it, like in B/W and N's Castle appearing out of nowhere. Would make the whole thing more interesting and memorable!

      As far as types go, I'd love to see some new ones being included. Dragon is been overdone in my opinion, and so has Fighting and Ghost probably as well.
      I Like the idea of a Normal and/or stell type E4 member, i personally would love to see a Fire and a Poison type
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        Maybe an E4 is actually the real leader of the Evil team but we don't learn that until post game, having only seen the admins of it lead the group. She or he could be like Giovanni in that aspect only without seeing them before the battle. Or they could make her appear before...that'll be interesting if that happened.
        For types it could be Water, Electric, Grass, and Flying, types we've not seen in any E4 barring the champions (as Wallace has water).
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          i liked what they did on BW/B2W2...
          I think they should mix-up what they did on the previous games with the BW series meaning you will have the ability to pick who you want to fight first with there levels gradually increasing. They can do this by making the next E4 you are facing say "I saw your match with E1, seeing how strong you are i have prepared my strongest pokemons" or something like that.
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            i liked what they did on BW/B2W2...
            I think they should mix-up what they did on the previous games with the BW series meaning you will have the ability to pick who you want to fight first with there levels gradually increasing. They can do this by making the next E4 you are facing say "I saw your match with E1, seeing how strong you are i have prepared my strongest pokemons" or something like that.
            I'm surprised they didn't do that already, it's simple enough to do with variables and conditional branches. In fact, by my knowledge, it's already done with variables so adding conditional branches into it would be easy I presume (going by my knowledge of how RPG Maker works XD).
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            I would definitely love to see this happen!
            That way one can chose his path, but the battles would still be harder (:
            and i liked this method over the pre-determined path, although i wouldn't
            mind if they change it back to the "old" way
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              I would definitely love to see this happen!
              That way one can chose his path, but the battles would still be harder (:
              and i liked this method over the pre-determined path, although i wouldn't
              mind if they change it back to the "old" way
              My only complaint with the Gen V Elite Four is that they didn't get stronger, thus resulting in the highest leveled Elite Four and an average level champion in BW2. No first Elite Four member has had Pokemon at lv56-58 before, but lv57-59 was just pathetic.
              Should have been this in BW (with each Elite Four member being two levels higher than the last).
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              -Reuniclus lv50/52/54/56
              -Gothitelle lv50/52/54/56
              -Sigilyph (Alakazam on rematch) lv50/52/54/56
              -Musharna (Slowking on rematch) lv50/52/54/56
              -Beeheeyem lv52/54/56/58

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              -Liepard (Sharpedo on rematch) lv50/52/54/56
              -Zweilous (Hydreigon on rematch) lv50/52/54/56
              -Krookodile lv50/52/54/56
              -Zoroark (Houndoom on rematch) lv50/52/54/56
              -Bisharp lv52/54/56/58

              Shauntal
              -Lampent (Gengar on rematch) lv50/52/54/56
              -Golurk (Froslass on rematch) lv50/52/54/56
              -Cohagrigus lv50/52/54/56
              -Jellicent (gender is the opposite to player's gender) lv50/52/54/56
              -Chandelure lv52/54/56/58

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              -Mienshao lv50/52/54/56
              -Throh (Lucario on rematch) lv50/52/54/56
              -Sawk (Machamp on rematch) lv50/52/54/56
              -Scrafty lv50/52/54/56
              -Conkeldurr lv52/54/56/58

              Rematches should be 20 levels higher, with Aldler having Pokemon lv78-80
              In BW2, the Elite Four's levels should have been 2 levels higher with the teams being the Challenge Mode rosters. Iris should have had these guys.
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              -Druddigon lv62
              -Lapras lv62
              -Metagross lv64
              -Tyranitar lv64
              -Hydreigon lv64
              -Haxorus lv66

              Rematches being 20 levels higher but 18 levels higher for Iris, Druddigon and Lapras being replaced with Dragonite and Salamence.
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              Yeah i agree with your idea, they should have had increasing levels.
              And please please give each of the E4 members five pokemons at least...
              I don't get why they only have 4, after all they are the best out there, the final challenge of the game...4 Pokemon just doesn't cut it
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                They should give the Elite 4 a full team of 6 Pokemon and at 2 different types to make things more challenging, as well as leveling up for each member along with "Choose a trainer" option. I would love to see a Water-type user in the Elite Four again because that type has been used once, by Wallace when he was the Champion in Emerald. I just hope that GF don't use the types used already in Gen V. This is what I wish the Elite Four to be:

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                  They should give the Elite 4 a full team of 6 Pokemon and at 2 different types to make things more challenging, as well as leveling up for each member along with "Choose a trainer" option. I would love to see a Water-type user in the Elite Four again because that type has been used once, by Wallace when he was the Champion in Emerald. I just hope that GF don't use the types used already in Gen V. This is what I wish the Elite Four to be:

                  -Water/Electric
                  -Dragon/Ice
                  -Grass/Poison
                  -Flying/Steel

                  Champion: Variety
                  -Water/Ice Hail team
                  -Grass/Flying entry hazard team
                  -Ground/Steel Sandstorm team
                  -Fire/Bug Sunny Day team
                  -Dragon/Psychic/Dark/Fairy Trick Room team

                  I love the idea of strategies instead of types.
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                  They should give the Elite 4 a full team of 6 Pokemon and at 2 different types to make things more challenging, as well as leveling up for each member along with "Choose a trainer" option. I would love to see a Water-type user in the Elite Four again because that type has been used once, by Wallace when he was the Champion in Emerald. I just hope that GF don't use the types used already in Gen V. This is what I wish the Elite Four to be:
                  I agree with everything you said, and having a water-type would be nice.
                  I just hope they use all new types for the E4, not the usual Fighting - Ghost - Psychic - Dragon
                  And I've thought about the 2 type thing too a while ago, would definitely be more interesting

                  Strategies insted of types would be a nice change, but i think it's rather unlikely
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                    -Water/Ice Hail team
                    -Grass/Flying entry hazard team
                    -Ground/Steel Sandstorm team
                    -Fire/Bug Sunny Day team
                    -Dragon/Psychic/Dark/Fairy Trick Room team

                    I love the idea of strategies instead of types.
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                      I agree with everything you said, and having a water-type would be nice.
                      I just hope they use all new types for the E4, not the usual Fighting - Ghost - Psychic - Dragon
                      And I've thought about the 2 type thing too a while ago, would definitely be more interesting

                      Strategies instead of types would be a nice change, but I think it's rather unlikely
                      Most of Gen V would have been considered unlikely during speculation time
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                      jw but in the original trailer, does anyone else think that the fire area that explodes into fire is the E4 room, and therefore the champion is actually a Fire-type user?
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                        That room with the flames may have also been a gym, or a E4 room, not necessary the champions. However a fire champion wouldn't be bad, it could also maybe mean more fire types in the dex :3.
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                        It didn't really look like an Elite Four room to me, but of course it's possible. I wouldn't mind it either, since it'd mean that we'd have a lot more Fire types in the region (at least, I hope, we know what Sinnoh did). It looks like a cool room though, so a Fire Elite 4 member is good by me!
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                          Right Sinnoh's original dex lacked decent fire types... hopefully we don't get a repeat. Maybe the E4 will be Fire, Ice (previous E4 types), Steel, and Water (new outside of the champion to the E4).
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                          I like the idea of each Elite Four member being based of a stat with each member specializing in one of the four being HP, Attack, Defence and Speed, similar to Normans Gym in RSE.
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                          I like the idea of each Elite Four member being based of a stat with each member specializing in one of the four being HP, Attack, Defence and Speed, similar to Normans Gym in RSE.
                          I actually kind of like this concept. I'd allow for type diversity, and it'd be an interesting concept. Maybe having one in Attack, Special Attack, both Defenses, and Speed would be a cool concept to have. HP itself isn't really much to work with, so if anything I'd see it bunched in with the Defenses category. Although I don't really think that leaves much room for the Champion to do much. I mean they could just have a standard team with some base strategy (kind of like the HGSS rematches did) instead of focusing on one type. Not have ridiculously hard AI, but they'd be smart enough to make some switches if it'd be obvious, or set up some preliminary entry hazards.
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                            I still rather us have a tournament like in the show, before facing the Elite Four... Also I want the Elite Four to be based on stats and not really a type...

                            HP/Defenses - Steel/Water
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                            Even if they focused on stats, if they do have some kind of type involvement as well it would be a nice change to see the lesser-types like Normal or Flying get a spot in the Elites.

                            A tournament to get a shot at the E4 in the first place should be a given though, haha.
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                            Well if they specialised in stats, there would be no specified type for each member which would be much better IMO. The battle cafe in Platinum used a similar strategy for the trainers you assisted through out the game, Cheryl using Pokemon with high HP such as Blissey, Wobbuffet, Drifblim etc Marley using Pokemon with high speed such as Ninjask, Electrode, Arcanine and so on.
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