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Old June 4th, 2013 (5:24 AM).
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    This is my second draft of this cool team and it needs work (So please give me your opinions). This is a 5th gen competitive OU singles team. The fun part is im only using "classic" 1st gen pokemon, because they are the bomb. The idea was make a solid easy to use team of 2 attackers, 2 defenders, and 2 supporters, with the theme of classic (my favorite) pokemon. It is supposed to be a fun team for me because thats the point of playing, but i also have a winning prerogative so be real. Alright, heres what it turned into.


    ATTACK
    Role: Physical Sweeper

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    4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    - Dragon Dance
    - Dragon Claw
    - Fire Punch
    - Wing Attack
    Summary: Dragonite's Immense Attack and good speed it's obvious he'll clean up pretty well. He has a standard move set. I went with Dragon Claw over Outrage for Accuracy. Neutrally hit by electric and weak to ice.

    Attack
    Role: Physical Sweeper

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    4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    - Shell Smash
    - Icicle Spear
    - Rock Blast
    - Razor Shell
    Summary: In agreeance with suggestions i chose Cloyster over Tentacruel. Shell Smash is the crux of this set, doubling Cloyster's Attack, Special Attack, and Speed to threatening levels. Icicle Spear is the perfect move for Cloyster; because of Skill Link, it will always hit five times, effectively making it a 125 Base Power STAB move. Rock Blast offers great coverage with Icicle Spear, hitting Fire-, Water-, and Ice-types for at least neutral damage. Cloyster Totally blocks my ice weakness on Dragonite and Dugtrio, but is another hurt by electric.

    ATTACK
    Role: Revenge Killer

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    252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - Sucker Punch
    - Shadow Claw
    Summary: Dugtrio is designed to fill two purposes. One fill my electrical weakness. The second is swap in after the fainting of an ally and finish off the weakened enemy. Earthquake serves as a powerful STAB move, while Stone Edge completes the famed EdgeQuake combination, offering fantastic coverage on both grounded and airborne foes. While many can switch out due to Levitate, Sucker Punch is a potent weapon against enemy Ghost- and Psychic-types, such as Gengar, Azelf, Latios, and Latias, if they decide to stay in the fray. Its priority is also useful in case the opponent is clearly faster than Dugtrio. However, Shadow Claw is a more reliable, weaker alternative to Sucker Punch, which will cause damage even if the foe attempts to use Substitute, Calm Mind, Nasty Plot, Will-O-Wisp, and so on.

    Support
    Role: Healer

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    252 HP / 248 Def / 8 Spd
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam
    Summary: With a defensive EV spread, Vaporeon can tank multiple hits from opposing Pokemon. Scald serves as Vaporeon's STAB move and has a handy 30% chance of burning the opposing Pokemon which is great for crippling physically based Pokemon who think they will be getting a free switch-in. With Vaporeon's large base 130 HP stat, means that it will be healing much of the team for at least 50%. Protect is for healing himself or stalling while Chansey or Tentacruels poison takes place. 1/2 damage on ice i think these two counter the Dugtrio/Dragonight ice weakness.

    SUPPORT
    Role: Cleric

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    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Sp.Def
    - Softboiled
    - Aromatherapy
    - Toxic
    - Siesmic Toss
    Summary: I chose Chansey over Blissey because of my love of 1st gen, so shoot me. With Vaporeon as my healer Chansey will cure the status ailments that would normally cripples pokes. She also has Siesmic Toss to protect her from taunt.

    Final Pokemon
    Role:????

    Summary: I really don't know what to do here? At the moment i'm thinking about throwing in Magneton and calling it good. Any pokemon that will fill my teams weak points and pull the end together. So let me cover those points to my knowledge. They are Electric, Ice, and Dragon. So ill keep this short and cover each. x weak - blank neutral - o resist
    Weakness: Electric l Ice l Dragon
    Dragonight:---------- x----- x---
    Cloyster:-------x------o----------
    Dugtrio:--------o------x----------
    Vaporeon:-----x------o----------
    Chansey:------------------------

    So the final count Electric affecting 3 major members with 1 resist. Ice effecting 2 with 2 resist. And dragon is inevitebly neutral as long as dragonight can out speed. So without access to steel type dragon status won't change. Also i think two for two on ice is okay. However the one electric resisting revenge killer doesn't do the job. Imo i need another electric sponge and for that i look to you guys.

    Alright so there you have it. Tell me what you think and please give suggestions. I realize i have weaknesses so as well as pointing them out please suggest improvements. I am open to drastic changes even pokemon choice but please "try" to keep em 1st gen. Thanks for all your time.
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    Old June 4th, 2013 (6:28 AM).
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    Wing Attack is absolutely useless on Dragonite. Dragon Claw and Fire Punch provide the coverage you need already, though this will cause Heatran to wall you. In that slot, replace it with ExtremeSpeed (for strong priority to finish off weakened faster opponents), Earthquake (for more coverage against Steels, especially Heatran) or Roost (for recovery and to reset Multiscale).

    I think you should use 248 HP/252 Def/8 Spe for Vaporeon's EV spread; this lets you take less damage from Stealth Rock.

    Magneton does make a good fit on the team because of its synergy with Dragonite:
    -Substitute
    -Charge Beam
    -Thunderbolt
    -Flash Cannon/Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Eviolite
    Ability: Magnet Pull
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    Old June 4th, 2013 (6:35 AM).
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      Thank you, that is exactelly the info i was looking for.
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