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The graphics look really good, even for 3D->2D bits. I bet they look even more amazing in 3D, since they're intended to be viewed in 3D.

It's hard to judge flats of 3D polygons and models like these. The "true" effect and the double-imaging to create said effect adds such specific and defining elements to the final product... Stuff that a simple 2D can't bring about or interpret.
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If that's the case imagine how good it's going to look with the 3D effects on. I mean I personally probably won't use them, but I'd be pleased with just how they look on the 3D plane.
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I know! It's going to be absolutely amazing. I can't wait for the release. The newest screenies look really, really good (old ones were meh); the final product is going to be mind-blowing. The 3DS' capabilities are really going to complement the series phenomenally.
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    I'm not impressed by the graphics. They could have been a lot better, regarding the fact that it's a 3DS game. I mean sure, for a Pokémon game, it does look decent.

    I just don't understand why GameFreak always lags behind.
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    Well they still have another 5 months of development and it can only get better from here! I'm pretty happy with how the graphics are now but if they were to improve them over the coming months, I'm going to be really pleased with how these games graphically enhance.
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    I'm not impressed by the graphics. They could have been a lot better, regarding the fact that it's a 3DS game. I mean sure, for a Pokémon game, it does look decent.

    I just don't understand why GameFreak always lags behind.
    What kind of graphics were you expecting exactly? It should also be noted that it's their first time working with this, so it will only get better with time.
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      I really love how the plants and leaves are animated, as well as the wind in the battles, it makes them seem really realistic. gj graphics team! n_n
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      I'm not impressed by the graphics. They could have been a lot better, regarding the fact that it's a 3DS game. I mean sure, for a Pokémon game, it does look decent.

      I just don't understand why GameFreak always lags behind.
      On top of what was already stated, keep in mind we're still just on the 3DS. As far as graphics go they look good for the system. Plus, just between the release of just the two trailers the graphics have improved a great ton. There's still another 5 months until the games come out, so who knows what other improvements they could make in that time frame!
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        Hey guys i just saw the animation for Brave bird which was just breathtaking. i was wondering how everyone is finding new 3D attacks.
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          so far im pretty impressed with the graphics especially battle graphics. overworld is awesome too though and they still have lots of time to polish both of them. cant wait to see the game footage ^^
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            This game looks ever more beautiful every time it's shown.
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              When you compare images from January to the images that surfaced this month, you can really see how much the graphics have improved. Alright so it's not a staggering amount but you can see the little details that have changed which make the games look much more appealing.
              It went from an eyesore to acceptable. That's a good improvement.

              Still pretty bad, though. I get what they're going for but it's just really ugly. Look at the repeated textures, the low poly count and the JAGGIES. We need anti-aliasing here, it'd be a BIG improvement. Pokemon models are ugly, humans are fine though. I dig it. What's up with the lighting and shadows though...

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              No they don't. This is the same system that gave us Donkey Kong Country Returns and Luigi's Mansion 2.

              EDIT: Just noticed the poll. WHOA there. To think graphics doesn't matter is totally fine, but calling it good? Er...
              EDIT2: Can I say I really don't like the art style too? Better than B/W, but it's really...I dunno, uninspired and bland? Even New Super Mario Bros has a better art style imo...
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                They've only improved. I'm sure some nostalgia fans will be upset because that's how it is, but I'm grateful for these advancements =P
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                  The 3D, in my opinion, is a huge leap forward for all Pokemon games. But it doesn't mean it's good!

                  The 2D was awesome, fine, ignoring the stupid 3D we face today. After Pokemon Conquest (AWSM game) was made, they started to make more effortless games. Pokemon Rumble? Ugh, come ON! :c

                  But I suppose it's okay, after all, the battles look okay. And the towns... so I shouldn't complain.
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                    I don't know why people are complaining about the graphics. I also don't understand this need to compare one game's graphics to another. You have different development teams with different artists working on those games. The vision one team has is going to differ from another. We also have to keep in mind that game developers are constantly playing a game of tug of war when it comes to game content. Sacrifices have to me made from some areas to implement needed or desired features.

                    So for a full RGP like Pokemon, some things like detail in the graphics have to be sacrificed to give you the breadth and scope that the game provides. The developers could vastly improve the quality of graphics in the game, as some wish, but then you might have to sacrifice game elements that you might also want. We all need to learn the art of compromise.

                    For me, the single most important aspect of a game is the gameplay itself. I don't care if I can see the individual blades of grass moving in the wind, or if the characters are anti-aliased. In the end I want a fun game that is visually appealing, challenging and with a great storyline to it.

                    To the nitpickers out there I say give it a rest. If the graphics are so important to you, then play only the games whose graphics meets your approval.
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                      I'm not impressed by the graphics. They could have been a lot better, regarding the fact that it's a 3DS game. I mean sure, for a Pokémon game, it does look decent.

                      I just don't understand why GameFreak always lags behind.
                      The graphics have improved drastically since January.

                      Also, comparing to other 3DS games, this is one of the best looking 3DS games I've seen. I have played a ton of 3DS games, and they sometimes try too hard, and it ends up being less polished. Take Luigi's Mansion, for example. They tried to make things a little too graphically intense, and the frame rate often suffers.

                      Also, remember that they have to include over 700 3D Pokemon models, each with dozens of different animations / facial expressions, nevermind the trainers and the region.
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                        The graphics look good. I am so happy with them. And they will improve them by the time the game is released!
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                          To the nitpickers out there I say give it a rest. If the graphics are so important to you, then play only the games whose graphics meets your approval.
                          I'm not gonna even bother with the rest of your post, but I'm gonna say I know the game is an RPG and I know graphical capabilities has to be limited, but are we really gonna use that as an excuse?
                          It's like we forgot about that other game which is also completely PACKED with content, that other game that actually has so many enemies on screen at once and yet stays at a constant frame rate, that other game that still managed to look good and highly detailed. (I'm talking about Kid Icarus.) Don't get me started on Dragon Quest 7 or Bravely Default which are also RPGs. They actually look good and are graphical marvels compared to X/Y. This isn't just a difference in art style.

                          But anyway, that's not what I'm here to argue about. Your quoted sentence, on the other hand, that kind of mentality needs to go. You should NOT tell anyone bothered by this to "take a rest". I'm one of the last people who'd complain about graphics, and I DO plan to buy this game, but am I not allowed to complain about it? Graphics ARE important, regardless of what anyone says, and to me X/Y is exactly why. If the game is ugly, it's ugly, no two ways about it. Now am I not gonna play the game because of it? No. But will I be bothered by it? Yes. And that's why I'm complaining. Gameplay is first but I don't like to play a game that looks like shovelware. I have every rights to criticize.
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                          The graphics have improved drastically since January.

                          Also, comparing to other 3DS games, this is one of the best looking 3DS games I've seen. I have played a ton of 3DS games, and they sometimes try too hard, and it ends up being less polished. Take Luigi's Mansion, for example. They tried to make things a little too graphically intense, and the frame rate often suffers.

                          Also, remember that they have to include over 700 3D Pokemon models, each with dozens of different animations / facial expressions, nevermind the trainers and the region.
                          Did we play the same game? Luigi's Mansion 2 constantly stayed at 30fps (which is acceptable for a slow-paced adventure game) unless you open doors or there are too many ghosts in a big room. X/Y, on the other hand, from what I saw on the videos, struggled to keep at 30fps. Also, Luigi's Mansion 2 was NOT graphically intense at all.

                          The graphics did not improve that much since January anyway. At least, from what I saw. How is X/Y "polished" anyway?
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                            Well I obviously didn't expect Pokemon on 3DS to be as visually great as RE Revelations or KIU before I saw the first trailer. I think they made a huge improvement compaired to older Pokemon games but I also think they could have done better. Pokemon still keeps its "pixelated" style so people who were sad about the end of sprites don't really have to complain. I'm sure future Pokemon games will look better and better (obviously). I don't judge games only because of graphics, so if XY will have great gameplay (which it will most likely have) it's still going to be an awesome game in general.
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                              Love how they have improved on the graphics since the initial showing. I find the cell shaded style a bit better than pure 3D. At least they are trying to improve what they do rather than just recycling everything this time around. For a company that doesn't do much in 3D this is a very good start for them.

                              I may actually try to play with the 3D feature on just to see any difference. Should look better than the other games.
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                                The graphics of the towns are beautiful, however I think they can still improve. Also the latest trailers said that what was shown may not be the finalized version of the game, so let's hope it get's better.
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                                  I'm not gonna even bother with the rest of your post, but I'm gonna say I know the game is an RPG and I know graphical capabilities has to be limited, but are we really gonna use that as an excuse?
                                  What's the point of complaining about something outside of our control? Far better to accept what is and be happy about it. That's what I do. Graphics never was all that important to me especially since I'm visually impaired. In fact, I would be perfectly content with greyscale graphics, which at least would be something I could actually see properly.

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                                  But anyway, that's not what I'm here to argue about. Your quoted sentence, on the other hand, that kind of mentality needs to go. You should NOT tell anyone bothered by this to "take a rest". I'm one of the last people who'd complain about graphics, and I DO plan to buy this game, but am I not allowed to complain about it? Graphics ARE important, regardless of what anyone says, and to me X/Y is exactly why. If the game is ugly, it's ugly, no two ways about it. Now am I not gonna play the game because of it? No. But will I be bothered by it? Yes. And that's why I'm complaining. Gameplay is first but I don't like to play a game that looks like shovelware. I have every rights to criticize.
                                  Of course you have every right to criticize, but equally I have every right to roll my eyes at people who whine and complain about something they have no control over. It's like complaining about the weather, a pointless waste of effort. Your energies would be better spent doing something else. But hey, it's yours to waste, so if you want to vent and stomp your feet and pout with your arms folded across your chest like a child who didn't get the last piece of cake just because the graphics aren't to your liking, knock yourself out. I'm not going to stop you. But don't for a second think that I can't criticize your criticisms. Besides, in the end, what will all your complaining about the graphics accomplish? Not a darned thing. Just like complaining about the weather.

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                                  The graphics did not improve that much since January anyway. At least, from what I saw. How is X/Y "polished" anyway?
                                  Even I can see that the graphics are sharper, and I'm visually impaired. Take a screen capture of each of the videos released and compare them.
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                                    What's the point of complaining about something outside of our control? Far better to accept what is and be happy about it. That's what I do. Graphics never was all that important to me especially since I'm visually impaired. In fact, I would be perfectly content with greyscale graphics, which at least would be something I could actually see properly.
                                    Good for you. Graphics aren't important to you, but it is to others. It's out of my control but I want to express my distaste about it. THIS thread is asking us about our opinion about the graphics. Cut it out with that crap.

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                                    Of course you have every right to criticize, but equally I have every right to roll my eyes at people who whine and complain about something they have no control over. It's like complaining about the weather, a pointless waste of effort. Your energies would be better spent doing something else. But hey, it's yours to waste, so if you want to vent and stomp your feet and pout with your arms folded across your chest like a child who didn't get the last piece of cake just because the graphics aren't to your liking, knock yourself out. I'm not going to stop you. But don't for a second think that I can't criticize your criticisms. Besides, in the end, what will all your complaining about the graphics accomplish? Not a darned thing. Just like complaining about the weather.
                                    This is extremely hypocritical in every way. How is criticizing me any better than criticizing the graphics? You're being extremely childish here. I only made one post to express my distaste which took me about 5 minutes to make. That's not a waste of time. Might as well say the posters who are praising the graphics are wasting their time as well, because it isn't any different. Your posts on the other hand...

                                    You said it yourself, graphics don't matter to you. But to some of us it does. And we don't like it. So you're telling us we're wasting our time expressing that? Suit yourself, but you're really not doing any better. Unless you want me to complain about the gameplay? Because I'd be happy to, as I have issues with the formula. But you're gonna say something stupid like "stop nitpicking about video games and go outside", won't you?

                                    Your whole posts scream "stop disliking what I like". If you want me to stop complaining (and I only made one post and was about to leave it at that) give me good arguments on why the graphics aren't as bad as I think they are. I have no problems with proper debates like these. But clearly you can't, so you're resorting to the "you're wasting time complaining" fanboy excuse.

                                    But I'll stop, if it'll make you sleep at night.

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                                    Even I can see that the graphics are sharper, and I'm visually impaired. Take a screen capture of each of the videos released and compare them.
                                    Sharper in resolution only. Hell, they're not gonna even look that clear on a 3DS (which is 240p). There are improvements, but not much.
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                                      Sharper in resolution only. Hell, they're not gonna even look that clear on a 3DS (which is 240p). There are improvements, but not much.
                                      Well there you go. The graphics are better than they were. And in another few months, how much better do you think they might be when the game is finally released. And I for one will enjoy playing the game on my 3DS XL. Now if only they made a 10" version compatible with my Android tablet...
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                                        Well there you go. The graphics are better than they were. And in another few months, how much better do you think they might be when the game is finally released. And I for one will enjoy playing the game on my 3DS XL. Now if only they made a 10" version compatible with my Android tablet...
                                        I never said they didn't improve anything though, just very little. Which is why I really doubt the game is gonna look any better come release, but here's hoping.
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