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Old June 30th, 2013 (9:22 PM).
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Old July 1st, 2013 (3:29 AM). Edited July 1st, 2013 by 11wildy.
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    Looks like an interesting, but really difficult challenge. Have the notes i came up with while/after reading this.

    - Sprout Tower is optional unless you play HG/SS if memory serves
    - The Move Deleter and HMs can get you free infinite pp restocks on several good moves for Feraligatr from you reach Blackthorn
    - The Spearow from the guard guy is a free Fly slave
    - It is up to you to decide whether the Game Corner counts as a shop. If it doesn't, after the E4 you can use all your money to buy yourself some good moves/pp refills for them from the move tutor on Wednesday or Saturday (Don't go for the big ones, they are more expensive with less pp)
    - Get the Exp Share as soon as possible if you intend to add any team members past the 3rd gym. switch training and straight training cost a lot of hp.
    - Mr Pokemon heals you upon reaching his house. Use that to get some training in at the start.
    -- Lance does the same thing when you get deeper into the Rocket Hideout. Keep it in mind so you can go blow your remaining hp/pp on other things before you go there
    I know it is difficult, but I do like a challenge! Thanks for the help!

    Sprout tower being optional means Totodile is definitely the best starter, as it has the least problems with gym leaders. Also, it can abuse Waterfall and Surf with the move deleter, while Cyndaquil gets just Strenght and Cut. I will not use the Game Corner, I would consider it a market, and I didn't use it in my Leafgreen run either. The free Fly slave is nice, didn't think of that yet. I don't intend to add many Pokemon to the team, as I will need to skip a lot of trainers to preserve HP and PP, so I am running low on exp already. The free heals are very nice, as it gives a small opportunity to train a little bit.

    Now I just need an idea how to beat Jasmine's Magnemites and Lt. Surge. (I suppose I want to go on to Red, if that's possible.)

    Again, thanks for your notes!

    Edit: Some more problems popped up in my mind.
    (Bugsy beaten, nvm)
    Second, team slots. As I can't use the Pokecenter, I do not have access to a PC, thus I must use the 6 slots I have wisely. Obviously my starter Totodile, but I also NEED to pick up the Togepi egg, will need some slaves too. And lastly, I can use the Master Ball to catch ANYTHING, so I will probably catch a legendary with it, as they need the least training to match my current level. Which one should I catch? So yeah, I mighht just NOT pick up the Spearow, since Fly isn't required to beat the game.
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    Old July 1st, 2013 (5:49 AM).
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      Now I just need an idea how to beat Jasmine's Magnemites and Lt. Surge. (I suppose I want to go on to Red, if that's possible.)
      There are the TMs for Dig and Earthquake you can find before those gyms. That would leave you vulnerable to Red though. Unless you catch a pokemon that can deal with them, I think you might better off beating Pryce and Chuck first and then Surfing the Magnemites to death or something
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      Old July 1st, 2013 (5:56 AM). Edited July 1st, 2013 by 11wildy.
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        There are the TMs for Dig and Earthquake you can find before those gyms. That would leave you vulnerable to Red though. Unless you catch a pokemon that can deal with them, I think you might better off beating Pryce and Chuck first and then Surfing the Magnemites to death or something
        I already have the Dig TM, thought Feraligatr couldn't learn it for some reason. Now the gym shouldn't be too difficult, but I'd like to save Earthquake for red, if I can.

        EDIT: Just beat the Pokemon League!
        stats:
        Feraligatr lvl 58
        -Surf
        -Hydro Pump
        -Dig
        -Icy Wind

        All max PP and full HP, since you apparently get healed after the League :D. Now taking a break, will go to Kanto later, which will be much, much more difficult.

        I also need some kind of rules regarding move deleter abuse. I've now used it once, but I don't want to travel back every time just to refresh PP, as that kind of defeats the challenge. Anything good for that ?
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        Old July 1st, 2013 (12:03 PM).
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          How about a region challenge? Where you can only use Pokémon introduced in that generation (or their (pre-)evolutions). Obviously Kanto won't work, unless you're doing an Ultimate Run.
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          Old July 1st, 2013 (7:21 PM).
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          How about a region challenge? Where you can only use Pokémon introduced in that generation (or their (pre-)evolutions). Obviously Kanto won't work, unless you're doing an Ultimate Run.
          BW wouldn't work either. tbh, that's too similar to a normal run, cause a lot of people use Pokemon introduced in that region when playing normally. Something like using Pokemon not introduced in that region would work though, I think. So say I went through Hoenn with only gen II Pokemon...I could end up with Crobat, Donphan, Lanturn, Magcargo, Skarmory, and Bellossom. ...Not a bad team actually...now I kind want this WHOOPS haha.

          But yeah, that would shorten the options so you'd have to think about your team. You could also have an optional rule that doesn't allow you to use items that were made past that gen. So if I were doing the challenge I mentioned in my example, I would only be able to use items that were around in gen I and II, not anything introduced in gen III. This actually sounds like a good challenge lol...sorry I hijacked your idea by turning it around and making something new of it. ~_~
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          Old July 2nd, 2013 (4:36 AM).
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            Something like using Pokemon not introduced in that region would work though, I think.
            Black and White wouldn't really work for this either. Because you can't find Pokemon from other regions until after you beat the game. So...yeah...wouldn't really work...
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              Old July 2nd, 2013 (12:27 PM).
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                Black and White wouldn't really work for this either. Because you can't find Pokemon from other regions until after you beat the game. So...yeah...wouldn't really work...
                B/W wouldn't work, but B2/W2 would!
                So it's just Kanto that you can't do at all...
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                Old July 2nd, 2013 (12:34 PM). Edited July 2nd, 2013 by Sydian.
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                Black and White wouldn't really work for this either. Because you can't find Pokemon from other regions until after you beat the game. So...yeah...wouldn't really work...
                Really, as long as most games work, it's fine in my book as far as approving it goes. I mean, that wouldn't open it to ultimates, but it'd still be playable at least. Same with the one where you only use Pokemon introduced in that gen really.
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                Old July 2nd, 2013 (2:02 PM).
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                  You could of course merge the two and put them in one thread? :3 And welcome back Honeyman (saying honey kind of sounds weird... xp). I do remember you!
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                  Old July 3rd, 2013 (6:55 PM).
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                    I had some ideas to make a NFE Challenge better. Don't want to make the thread myself. Maybe My ideas have been done before, plus I'm playing a ROM with a Randomizer. Lots of fun.

                    Not Fully Evolved Challenge

                    *Not Fully Evolved Pokemon Only (pokemon effected by evolite)


                    *Basic Stage Pokemon can't evolve until Lv.35 (baby pokemon aren't effected)


                    *No Stat Boosting Items like Evolite, Light Ball, Thick Club, etc.


                    *Pokemon that do not evolve can be used IF their base stats are very low. Farfetch'd, Luvdisc, Mawile etc. Such Pokemon must be approved individually until a complete list is made.



                    The one problem I see with a NFE Challenge is that you don't feel the limitation of the challenge until the Late Game when you should fave fully evolved Pokemon. Basically, the challenge doesn’t start till Victory Road.

                    Adding the "Lv35 Rule" should make the challenge start sooner. The exact level might need to be changed, but it is still a good idea. Lv.35 is around the time when most starters evolve into their final form, this is when your Squirtle would evolve into Warturtle.
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                    The one problem I see with a NFE Challenge is that you don't feel the limitation of the challenge until the Late Game when you should fave fully evolved Pokemon. Basically, the challenge doesn’t start till Victory Road.
                    I disagree, actually. I did the Christian Challenge, which you could essentially call a variation on an NFE since you can't evolve, but I started feeling the burn around gym 4. I did mine in Hoenn. So I don't think the 35 level rule would be necessary, but optional instead. It also depends on your team, which at that point in the game, I had...nothing to write home about, honestly. I think at that point, I didn't have my desired team and I was soloing with Torchic, and it was still tough.

                    ...I felt the burn at gym 4 in Hoenn...Flannery's gym...I see what I did there.
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                    Old July 3rd, 2013 (9:44 PM). Edited July 3rd, 2013 by molivious.
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                      *Basic Stage Pokemon can't evolve until Lv.35 (baby pokemon aren't effected)

                      *Pokemon that do not evolve can be used IF their base stats are very low. Farfetch'd, Luvdisc, Mawile etc. Such Pokemon must be approved individually until a complete list is made.
                      An easier is way to regulate this is to simply create a total-stat benchmark. For example:

                      Start: Only pokemon with total stats 330 and below are allowed until the next badge
                      After acquiring 1st badge: those with 340 and below are now allowed until the next badge
                      2nd badge: 350
                      ...
                      ...
                      8th badge: 410 and above

                      410 is actually a decent stat limit. Most of your starters, when evolved, have total stats around this number. If 410 isn't satisfying enough, add +15 instead per badge acquired(8th badge = 450 and above). This way, trainers can evolve their starters much earlier.

                      This makes it easier to explain and force players to only evolve their pokemon at certain points in the game.

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                      The one problem I see with a NFE Challenge is that you don't feel the limitation of the challenge until the Late Game when you should fave fully evolved Pokemon. Basically, the challenge doesn’t start till Victory Road.
                      Depends on what pokemon are being used, really. Some are plain too good/strong for as early as the game starts, while some are horrible all the way (like uh, bugs).

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                      Old July 5th, 2013 (5:58 PM).
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                      Hope you guys are finding some fun GT events. :) psst there's a link to mine in my sig!! Just a reminder that next month is when the next challenge event will be, and there is an extra surprise in it. <3

                      Edit: Oh apparently I didn't save my sig when I added them OOPS. Well you'll see them in the GT forum. Bug Catching Contest and Secret Base Contest. :3
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                      Old July 6th, 2013 (9:43 PM). Edited July 6th, 2013 by Sydian.
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                        Well great, I won't be there next month due to holidays. Finally we get a challenge event and I can't even do it :(

                        I was thinking about making a challenge where you play a different set of rules between each gym. For example:
                        Firstly, from the start up to gym 1, you would need to play by monotype rules.
                        Secondly, from gym 2 to gym 3, you would play nuzlocke rules.

                        This could of course be chosen by the player, or randomized.

                        Any ideas/thoughts?
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                        I like that idea. idk why, but it makes me think of a relay race or a triathlon, though with those it's only three events, but still. And aww that's a shame you won't be around. :( I'm gonna be busy a lot next month too, but the challenge ties in with next month so it's gonna be the only time it's acceptable to post. >.<
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                        It's nice to see my Eliminationlocke and Wedlocke doing okay, it would be nice to see a few more sign ups though. I love adaptations of the Nuzlocke which gives the challenge a whole new level of difficulty and anyone who likes a challenge should definitely come check out the Eliminationlocke in particular :D
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                        Old July 7th, 2013 (1:18 AM).
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                          Oh well, I guess I won't post my challenge, as I have only 2 weeks before holiday >.<

                          And Sydian, I figured out that I'll be back halfway through the month, so if I'll hurry I might be able to do the event still! ;D
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                          Adam, I like that your Nuzlockes aren't carbon copies of the original. I've been getting so many submissions of Nuzlocke variants that are barely different or could easily be incorporated into the one we already have. And it's just...ugh I swear that's almost all the challenges I've seen waiting on approval lately.

                          Wildy, I'm hoping you can join in! And I'm looking forward to you posting that challenge as well.

                          So what's everyone been doing for GT? I'm hosting my two events of course, but I also entered the Trade Corner raffle that I'm totally not gonna win cause I'm not doing any of the tasks lol...even though some of the tasks include getting badges in challenges. I also posted my entry for the singing contest. ^o^
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                          Old July 9th, 2013 (7:11 PM).
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                          I keep being lazy for posting my entry for the singing contest :[

                          Until when is the contest open?
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                          Old July 9th, 2013 (7:15 PM).
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                          I must be one of the only people who don't see the charm in doing nuzlockes. Maybe because while I do like doing challenges as something different games I don't really like to challenge myself. So seeing all these nuzlockes make me sad because that is less for me to choose from for challenges.

                          Also I wish I could post about my firered challenge but the challenge's thread here is set up in a way where I can't post in it.

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                          In Nuzlockes, you mean the one where if your Pokemon faints, you can't use them anymore?
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                          Old July 9th, 2013 (7:26 PM).
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                          It's okay, Tara. I don't do Nuzlockes either. I like more gimmicky challenges where I use things I wouldn't normally take while not having to change my play style too drastically. Nuzlocke goes against how I play and while I know it's meant to be challenging and such, I just can't deal with the losing Pokemon thing. lol

                          And go post your entry, Liljz! You have till July 10th, I believe.
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                          If there are any other nuzlockes I haven't really seen them, but yeah. I'm terrible with keeping my Pokemon alive when I normally play so a nuzlocke would be absolutely terrible. Plus the fact that half the time I hate grinding in my Pokemon games.

                          Gimmicky challenges are fun! Those are the ones I normally used to look at and go 'man I wish I could do this'. Luckily I don't really have that problem anymore since I decided to suck it up and use ROMs when I could.
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