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Old July 25th, 2013 (8:44 PM).
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    Old July 25th, 2013 (8:45 PM).
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      This isn't a real issue, the guy that brought it up was a troll: http://www.cameldog.net/stoned-wasted/30761-trying-troll-pokemon-forum.html
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      Old July 25th, 2013 (8:49 PM).
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      Well, considering this was coded literally a half hour ago, I'm sure there's some bugs to be worked out still. Audy will fix I'm sure.
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      Old July 25th, 2013 (8:50 PM).
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      Even if it was brought up by a troll, it was an option that should have been added long ago. That might be the first time a troll helped us out. But yeah, no issue in letting it stay and getting it fixed in the postbit.
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      Old July 25th, 2013 (8:56 PM).
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        Well, considering this was coded literally a half hour ago, I'm sure there's some bugs to be worked out still. Audy will fix I'm sure.
        Oh, right, I didn't see just how recent that was. Still, the postcount issue I also mentioned has been present for far longer (unless it's intended and that setting is off by default?), so I don't think one can assume problems with recent changes won't be missed.
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        Old July 25th, 2013 (9:01 PM).
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          he's planning on coming back in a couple of days with a new account and act offended like an evangelical parent that you have a third option for gender btw, just throwing the warning out
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          Old July 25th, 2013 (9:01 PM).
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          Old July 25th, 2013 (9:05 PM).
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          he's planning on coming back in a couple of days with a new account and act offended like an evangelical parent that you have a third option for gender btw, just throwing the warning out
          That's hilarious. I'm gonna be looking for appropriate gifs in the mean time. Thanks for letting us know!
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          Old July 25th, 2013 (9:06 PM).
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          he's planning on coming back in a couple of days with a new account and act offended like an evangelical parent that you have a third option for gender btw, just throwing the warning out
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          I don't see why you guys have to do this lol

          I mean, isn't there an option for "neither" or "both"? And genderbending is always fun :3
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          Old July 25th, 2013 (9:10 PM).
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          I mean, isn't there an option for "neither" or "both"? And genderbending is always fun :3
          No, there's just an option to leave it blank. I once suggested having a "both" option, but that obviously didn't go through, lol. And you can gender bend without having to use the new options. Though I think it will be a bit disrespectful if people genderbend using the transgender or genderqueer option.
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          Old July 25th, 2013 (9:17 PM).
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          I'd actually like for the option of choosing either one for chosen gender

          Gender: Transgender-MtF (Male to Female)
          '' '' : Transgender-FtM (Female to Male)

          Gender: Genderqueer-MAAB (Male-Assigned At Birth)
          '' '' : Genderqueer-FAAB (Female-Assigned At Birth)
          '' '' : Genderqueer-CAFAB (Coercively Assigned Female At Birth)
          " "" : Genderqueer-CAMAB (Coercively Assigned Male At Birth)


          It gives more of a choice for members and it looks aesthetically better. It'll show how PC as a forum is Open, Very Friendly, and Very Diverse.
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          Old July 25th, 2013 (9:36 PM).
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          Wouldn't it be easier if it was just labelled Other instead? Would catch any other niches.

          Otherwise I don't think there's a need to go down into more narrow subcategories - the general label should imo suffice.
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          Old July 25th, 2013 (9:40 PM).
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          I'd actually like for the option of choosing either one for chosen gender

          Gender: Transgender-MtF (Male to Female)
          '' '' : Transgender-FtM (Female to Male)

          Gender: Genderqueer-MAAB (Male-Assigned At Birth)
          '' '' : Genderqueer-FAAB (Female-Assigned At Birth)
          '' '' : Genderqueer-CAFAB (Coercively Assigned Female At Birth)
          " "" : Genderqueer-CAMAB (Coercively Assigned Male At Birth)


          It gives more of a choice for members and it looks aesthetically better. It'll show how PC as a forum is Open, Very Friendly, and Very Diverse.
          I don't think that looks aesthetically better at all, to tell you the truth. And if anything, I think it makes it more complicated. :( I think what Audy added earlier is just fine. It gets the point across, and if that person wants to express their subcategory of genderqueer or transgender, they can do so in their about me or any thread that brings up the subject.
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          Old July 26th, 2013 (12:28 AM).
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            Would I be a total bigot for saying that I think it's fine just letting transgender people pick the gender that they identify with? I mean, someone who is MtF for example... is female as far as any of us are concerned. :/
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            Old July 26th, 2013 (3:06 AM).
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              Why just not have another option for other? That way it can include those who are not sure yet what they are and those who are hermaphrodites. Sorted!
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              Would I be a total bigot for saying that I think it's fine just letting transgender people pick the gender that they identify with? I mean, someone who is MtF for example... is female as far as any of us are concerned. :/
              YES BECAUSE I READ THE WORD BIGOT AND I FREAKED OUT

              um I mean this isn't a hookup or childbearing forum or anything so knowing wether you have sperm or eggs in your crotch-thing doesn't really concern any of us (until you get to the PMs and the chats yeah, but that's not what our main goal here at PC is).
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              Would I be a total bigot for saying that I think it's fine just letting transgender people pick the gender that they identify with? I mean, someone who is MtF for example... is female as far as any of us are concerned. :/
              Couldn't agree more. I couldn't really understand why new fields were added since when you're transgender I always assumed you would still classify as male or female based on what you see yourself as, but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that I'm wrong here. It just seems like making a big deal out of something that's perfectly normal, like calling it out as something to focus on? But yeah, either what we currently have or (an 'Other' option) should work fine if there is actually a need for it.
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              Old July 26th, 2013 (1:08 PM).
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              And not to mention in a few days there's gonna be a "parent" that's going to "freak out" over our "uncouth" behavior by adding in transgender just now.

              damn it guys I thought you were better than that just to feed the trolls
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              Would I be a total bigot for saying that I think it's fine just letting transgender people pick the gender that they identify with? I mean, someone who is MtF for example... is female as far as any of us are concerned. :/
              This.

              I mean, I just don't see why this is relevant. Just leave the options as male or female. If they aren't happy with the options, they don't have to choose. I just don't see why this is relevant on a Pokemon forum. I mean, I am not against transgender people in any way, but I've never been to a forum where its a option.
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              I agree with the above. Over complication is just that, overcomplicated. Bobandbill brought up the "other" option. I think, if this does become a thing, that would be the best choice. Or maybe even "Other : _____" (type in your own).

              Although, I see that being abused more than used properly, but that's just me.
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              Old July 26th, 2013 (2:10 PM). Edited July 26th, 2013 by Esper.
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              Would I be a total bigot for saying that I think it's fine just letting transgender people pick the gender that they identify with? I mean, someone who is MtF for example... is female as far as any of us are concerned. :/
              No, that's actually a pretty keen and sensitive understanding. It only potentially leaves out people who are intersex, genderqueer, or otherwise don't identify as either female or male. And then, there may be people who primarily identify as a trans person instead of being just male or female. It's a difficult issue and, understandably, can be very personal for people. Of course, this is an issue that goes way beyond this forum so I wouldn't personally be too disappointed if we weren't on the very cutting edge.

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              Why just not have another option for other? That way it can include those who are not sure yet what they are and those who are hermaphrodites. Sorted!
              Hermaphrodites don't technically exist in humans. A better term is intersex.

              Edit: it also doesn't seem to display in some of the skins. Actually, not any of the skins I've tried so far. And some don't even display the "Gender" area at all.
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                cant you just say agendered? i mean if you are transgendered then you would use any of the three depended on what you identify yourself as. i want a third option but some people might have a problem.
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                I feel like agendered people already have an option to put. They don't identify with a gender, so they can leave that blank since that's a great way to say "Hey, I'm not male or female."
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                Another idea…

                Why not just have "custom" as an option and they can write up to 140 characters or something describing what gender-thing they are. That way we can cover all 2^16^140 genders there are.
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                Didn't read the entire thread, so sorry if I repeat anyone, but I don't even understand why there's a transgender option?

                Like, legit it was slightly offending when I saw it. xD;

                Transgender people fight so hard to be recognized as either male or female, so why would you go with "transgender", that's contradictory. Agender is much the same, there's a blank gender option for that.
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