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Old July 29th, 2013 (5:46 PM).
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    So I picked up a used copy of Pearl today and it had the following Shinies on it. Needless to say, I am not going to count any as my own, but it was still quite an interesting surprise. Quantity in brackets:

    (1) Azelf
    (1) Bronzong
    (1) Cacturne
    (1) Chimeco
    (1) Chingling
    (1) Combusken
    (1) Floatzel
    (1) Geodude
    (1) Glameow
    (1) Golbat
    (1) Golduck
    (1) Graveler
    (1) Heatran
    (1) Kabuto
    (1) Lapras
    (1) Latios
    (1) Mesprit
    (1) Noctowl
    (1) Pichu
    (1) Raikou
    (1) Rayquaza
    (1) Roselia
    (1) Suicune
    (1) Trapinch
    (1) Uxie
    (1) Vaporeon
    (1) Wailord
    (2) Celebi
    (2) Cresselia
    (2) Dialga
    (2) Dustox
    (2) Giratina
    (2) Jirachi
    (2) Machoke
    (2) Medicham
    (2) Mew
    (2) Mr Mime
    (2) Palkia
    (2) Phione
    (2) Quagsire
    (2) Rapidash
    (2) Regice
    (2) Regigigas
    (2) Regirock
    (2) Registeel
    (2) Rotom
    (2) Shellos
    (2) Sneasel
    (2) Spiritomb
    (2) Sudowodo
    (2) Tentacool
    (3) Darkrai
    (3) Shaymin
    (4) Deoxys
    (5) Manaphy
    (7) Arceus
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    Old July 29th, 2013 (7:44 PM).
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    So I picked up a used copy of Pearl today and it had the following Shinies on it. Needless to say, I am not going to count any as my own, but it was still quite an interesting surprise. Quantity in brackets:

    (1) Azelf
    (1) Bronzong
    (1) Cacturne
    (1) Chimeco
    (1) Chingling
    (1) Combusken
    (1) Floatzel
    (1) Geodude
    (1) Glameow
    (1) Golbat
    (1) Golduck
    (1) Graveler
    (1) Heatran
    (1) Kabuto
    (1) Lapras
    (1) Latios
    (1) Mesprit
    (1) Noctowl
    (1) Pichu
    (1) Raikou
    (1) Rayquaza
    (1) Roselia
    (1) Suicune
    (1) Trapinch
    (1) Uxie
    (1) Vaporeon
    (1) Wailord
    (2) Celebi
    (2) Cresselia
    (2) Dialga
    (2) Dustox
    (2) Giratina
    (2) Jirachi
    (2) Machoke
    (2) Medicham
    (2) Mew
    (2) Mr Mime
    (2) Palkia
    (2) Phione
    (2) Quagsire
    (2) Rapidash
    (2) Regice
    (2) Regigigas
    (2) Regirock
    (2) Registeel
    (2) Rotom
    (2) Shellos
    (2) Sneasel
    (2) Spiritomb
    (2) Sudowodo
    (2) Tentacool
    (3) Darkrai
    (3) Shaymin
    (4) Deoxys
    (5) Manaphy

    (7) Arceus
    I hate to be the bearer of bad news but, be glad you aren't counting those as yours.
    The ones I bolded have a reeeeeally high chance of being hacked, and the Bold, italicized underlined ones are no doubt in my mind hacked from here to timbuktu and back. Arceus, Celebi, Mew and Jirachi are impossible to get legitimately shiny (Unless the mew is japanese and from Hoenn, then there's the slightest sliver, but considering Emerald's near impossibility to SR shinies, I wouldn't get my hopes up.) And since those are hacked, I doubt the rest are very legit. And some slip past pokecheck. I admittedly tested it with a Litwick. But considering The ones I know for a FACT are hacked, I think it'd be safe to assume they all are.
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    Old July 29th, 2013 (8:00 PM).
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      I hate to be the bearer of bad news but, be glad you aren't counting those as yours.
      The ones I bolded have a reeeeeally high chance of being hacked, and the Bold, italicized underlined ones are no doubt in my mind hacked from here to timbuktu and back. Arceus, Celebi, Mew and Jirachi are impossible to get legitimately shiny (Unless the mew is japanese and from Hoenn, then there's the slightest sliver, but considering Emerald's near impossibility to SR shinies, I wouldn't get my hopes up.) And since those are hacked, I doubt the rest are very legit. And some slip past pokecheck. I admittedly tested it with a Litwick. But considering The ones I know for a FACT are hacked, I think it'd be safe to assume they all are.
      Haha I am assuming that only 2 are (sort of) legitimately shiny, and the others are all hacked (though they might not ALL be). Given the cartridge has 500 Masterballs, 95 of each TM etc I really don't think there is much doubt. Given almost all have the same Trainer ID as the cartridge, which only has 95 hours played on it, makes it harder again to believe. Didn't even have the PokeRadar lol, so chaining can't explain any of them.

      See if you can figure out which 2 I reckon are real and why :)
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      Old July 31st, 2013 (4:35 AM).
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        Jirachi can only be obtained via gamecube; mew with emerald (japanese); deoxys in birth island; manaphy if it's from ranger and avoid the shiny check it has; the others can't be shiny (arceus event was never released, celebi can only be caught shiny on cristal I think and there's no way to migrate pokemon from II to III generation).

        got another clefairy, this time male, the last one was female.
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        shiny clefairy 2.jpg

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        Old July 31st, 2013 (9:05 AM).
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          See if you can figure out which 2 I reckon are real and why :)
          I'm going to guess Geodude and Golbat because they seem to be fairly common as shinies, or as common as shinies can get anyways. Am I right?

          Also, hello guys! I'm back from a 3 month hiatus from shiny hunting :3
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          Old July 31st, 2013 (9:13 AM).
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            Congratulations on all the caught shinies everyone!

            @Lunafloon Welcome back! What pokemon are you hunting for at the moment?

            After roughly 140 hours of RE's on HG, I have found a shiny Wingull. I was camping the Viridian Forest but decided to go to Vermillion City for the Wingull swarm. 45 minutes later and Wingull appears. No clue how many RE's it took but if I had to guess it would be 14k+, maybe close to 15k. The IVs aren't that great and it has a Bold nature. (-Atk, +Def)

            I have a feeling this game is going to get generous. Anyone know a good place to hunt on HG?

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            Old July 31st, 2013 (10:28 AM). Edited July 31st, 2013 by Leafblade77.
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              Caught a shiny Darkrai after 257 SR's!

              Actually I found it months ago, but I kept forgetting to post it, sorry!

              Also today I got an shiny Squirtle after 12 (yes, 12) eggs. And no I did not use AR, but I did use the Masuda method using an
              Japanese Ditto I got from the GTS and an UK Blastoise I got from Heartgold.
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              Old July 31st, 2013 (12:13 PM).
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                I'm going to guess Geodude and Golbat because they seem to be fairly common as shinies, or as common as shinies can get anyways. Am I right?

                Also, hello guys! I'm back from a 3 month hiatus from shiny hunting :3
                Nope. Not saying they aren't but no reason to believe those two are legitimate. Between your shiny card and the clue of 'sort of' you should be able to get it next try :)
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                Old August 1st, 2013 (10:00 AM).
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                  *Just making a super fast point*

                  The Mew point that was made~
                  Mew is actually really easy (as far as near-impossibilities go) to SR for on Emerald. Provided you can get to the island, all you need to to SR for Mew is talk to it, if it isn't shiny go out of the area it is in, back in and talk to in again and repeat until it's shiny. You don't even need to reset. Because of the Emerald RNG people are scared of doing this but leaving the area allows to RNG to work ask normal, so this is hopefully how I will one day get a shiny Mew myself^^
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                  Old August 1st, 2013 (10:51 AM).
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                    The August Monthly Quest!!

                    The winner of the poll for August's Monthly Quest was Chr. Draco's suggestion: find a shiny of any one type, and then find a shiny whose type is supereffective against that type!

                    The contest lasts until midnight EDT on September 1st, 2013.

                    Good luck and have fun!

                    ---------------

                    Congrats to PekoponTAS on completing the July Quest!

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                    shiny Marill
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                    shiny female Ralts
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                    Treecko

                    ...

                    Torchic
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                    shiny Shinx
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                    clefairy
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                    shiny Wingull
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                    shiny Darkrai

                    ...

                    shiny Squirtle


                    Congrats on all those shinies!

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                    I only have ever come across one shiny, and that was a shiny Medicham! Caught it in Victory Road in Diamond.
                    Welcome to the SHC!

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                    Also, hello guys! I'm back from a 3 month hiatus from shiny hunting :3
                    Welcome back!
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                    Old August 7th, 2013 (4:40 PM).
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                      So I haven't been here in forever. Again. Hello~

                      I've been hunting Dialga off and on since November of last year as I've said in the few times I've remembered to post here and I just recently found out that GameStop is going to be giving out shiny Dialga.



                      I guess I'm not a very big fan of the recent influx of shiny distributions since I believe they sort of taint the rarity of shinies and the exhilaration you feel upon coming across one but hey, I'll get over it. Should I even continue hunting Dialga, though? I believe I'm well past 16,000 SRs.
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                      Old August 7th, 2013 (6:02 PM).
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                        GameStop will also be giving out shiny Palkia and Giratina.

                        Congrats on the shiny Shinx, Slenderman!

                        Congrats on the shiny Clefairy, Chr. Draco!

                        Congrats on the shiny Wingull, Eastwood2112!

                        Congrats on the shiny Darkrai and Squirtle, Leafblade77! Welcome back!

                        Welcome to the club, victreeplume!

                        This week's random hunt is... Dratini! Sorry for being so late. The hunt will last until next Wednesday, and a new hunt will still be posted on Sunday, giving everyone two for a few days.
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                        Old August 7th, 2013 (8:02 PM).
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                          Hi there everyone! I'm new to the forum and thought this would be fun to join! I had an experience in crystal where I found a shiny ursaring in Mt. Silver... Nifty enough my scyther was taking point, false swiped it to 1 health, I went to throw a ball and then...

                          "The Pokemon Box is full! Can't use that item!"

                          I hated Bill ever since that.

                          HOWEVER! It hasn't all been for naught, since I was looking for TMs, and I was led to that cave with Cobalion, and I found a shiny Boldore! Threw a Quick Ball immediately and caught it (62.8% chance with Quick Ball).

                          There was a long period of SRing for a shiny cyndaquil at the beginning of SS, still want one, but decided to try my luck at breeding one later.
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                          Old August 8th, 2013 (9:50 PM).
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                            Not going to ruin it for people who don't want to know about anything happening in X & Y before it comes out, HOWEVER I just want to state that this months Coro Coro magazine announcement has made me VERY HAPPY.

                            Other than that, I need to get back to hunting, I want at least one new shiny before I start in on X & Y...
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                            Old August 9th, 2013 (3:58 AM).
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                              I have extremely mixed opinions on the recent news, although shinys of what was seen would be cool.

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                              I guess I'm not a very big fan of the recent influx of shiny distributions since I believe they sort of taint the rarity of shinies and the exhilaration you feel upon coming across one but hey, I'll get over it. Should I even continue hunting Dialga, though? I believe I'm well past 16,000 SRs.
                              Why not? When you look at your pokemon's entry it tells you where you got it, so it's easy to know you SRed for your shiny. Of course you could always get both the SR one and the Event one, event mons usually can have some awesome moves, or dream world abilities! They're still rare even if there's events for these mons, since the events seem to have mostly unique movesets, like V-Create Rayquaza, the old surfing pikachu or flying pikachu.
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                              Old August 9th, 2013 (7:51 AM).
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                              So I haven't been here in forever. Again. Hello~

                              I've been hunting Dialga off and on since November of last year as I've said in the few times I've remembered to post here and I just recently found out that GameStop is going to be giving out shiny Dialga.



                              I guess I'm not a very big fan of the recent influx of shiny distributions since I believe they sort of taint the rarity of shinies and the exhilaration you feel upon coming across one but hey, I'll get over it. Should I even continue hunting Dialga, though? I believe I'm well past 16,000 SRs.
                              I can see why you detest them. It makes people who don't hunt feel all awesome when they didn't really work for it. I wanna see what abilities or moves they possess. But a good point HAS been made. You can get the event one AND the SR one. It should be quite obvious which one will make you happier, yes?

                              In the meantime, I seem to be in a huuuuge drought. Shiny charm has brought me nothing, chaining has been a bust, and I can't seem to properly masuda on any of my games. BUT. On an emulator I was playing for my boyfriend, I DID find a shiny Buizel. First thing on the route, AND the thing I wanted. It made me a verrry happy Kiro. But I don't have a flashcart to transfer it over.:C

                              But now I will let you guys decide my hunt. I have all legendaries available in B2, All but Latias and Kyurem available in W2.... The Shiny freakin charm on W2 that I had hunkered down when I had nothing better to do and acquired within a week of getting the game.... I have Diamond with a complete pokedex (Means nothing but still) A Japanese SS AND Black game if I need to get pokemon to masuda with... And a whitegame I'm not entirely done with yet but I may as well not it.

                              So, SHC.... What should this tigerfox's next hunt be?
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                              Old August 9th, 2013 (9:41 AM). Edited August 9th, 2013 by Spritingyoshi22.
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                                In the meantime, I seem to be in a huuuuge drought. Shiny charm has brought me nothing, chaining has been a bust, and I can't seem to properly masuda on any of my games. BUT. On an emulator I was playing for my boyfriend, I DID find a shiny Buizel. First thing on the route, AND the thing I wanted. It made me a verrry happy Kiro. But I don't have a flashcart to transfer it over.:C
                                Congratz on the Buizel. If you want to transfer it to your real games then you could download this programme called Pokegen, load your save file in Pokegen, view the Buizel's data, save it as a pokemon file, upload it a site called PokeGTS, change the DNS code on your DS so it matches the DNS code shown on the site, go into the GTS with a party of 6 and you should recieve the pokemon. I would still classify this as legit as the Buizel was legit and was found by you, it has the exact same stats, nature and oreos. I wouldn't normally mention this programme as you can pretty much create any Pokemon you desire, have it be shiny or illegitimate stats, but I find it to be quite useful for transferring pokemon I find on while playing on emulators that I want to have on my real games, that and getting any event pokemon I miss.
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                                Old August 9th, 2013 (10:14 AM).
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                                  Ok, I'll admit that I haven't been active in this club, so today I want to make a fresh start again. I won't be able to do much until sometime next week, because I am very busy, but I am currently hunting for a shiny Totodile on White 2 using the Masuda Method. I'll let you know if anything happens. Bye!
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                                  Old August 9th, 2013 (11:55 AM).
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                                    Old August 10th, 2013 (8:14 AM).
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                                      Why not? When you look at your pokemon's entry it tells you where you got it, so it's easy to know you SRed for your shiny. Of course you could always get both the SR one and the Event one, event mons usually can have some awesome moves, or dream world abilities! They're still rare even if there's events for these mons, since the events seem to have mostly unique movesets, like V-Create Rayquaza, the old surfing pikachu or flying pikachu.
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                                      I can see why you detest them. It makes people who don't hunt feel all awesome when they didn't really work for it. I wanna see what abilities or moves they possess. But a good point HAS been made. You can get the event one AND the SR one. It should be quite obvious which one will make you happier, yes?
                                      Alright, thanks to you I've decided to get both. The most likely thing is that I'm gonna get the event before I find the shiny myself but who cares, I'll get it eventually. Woohoo.
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                                      Old August 10th, 2013 (8:47 AM).
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                                        So far Icought shiney Charmendar,Charmeleon,Charizard,Pikachu,Raichu,Squirtle,Wartortle,Blastoise

                                        Now Im Finding All 1 Gen Siny Pokemons

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                                        Old August 10th, 2013 (10:57 AM).
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                                          Hey there, new member here.
                                          I've been trying to catch shinies since they came into existance.
                                          It's hard!
                                          I've only caught 1! in my entire life! and that was some low IV geodude!

                                          I guess I've caught the red gyrados we all have a shot at getting, but I don't count that one.
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                                          Old August 10th, 2013 (11:49 AM).
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                                            I snipped all these posts, but otherwise this post would be a mile long!

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                                            I've been hunting Dialga off and on since November of last year as I've said in the few times I've remembered to post here and I just recently found out that GameStop is going to be giving out shiny Dialga.

                                            Should I even continue hunting Dialga, though? I believe I'm well past 16,000 SRs.
                                            At the end of the day, the only person who matters for shinies is yourself. So IMO as long as you know that you have obtained it the hard way then who cares about the giveaway - yours would still be more special.

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                                            ... found a shiny ursaring in Mt. Silver... I went to throw a ball and then...

                                            "The Pokemon Box is full! Can't use that item!"

                                            ... I found a shiny Boldore! Threw a Quick Ball immediately and caught it (62.8% chance with Quick Ball).
                                            Sucks on the Ursaring, not something I had ever considered before! Definitely will bear in mind in future! But Boldore is a cool one.

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                                            Not going to ruin it for people who don't want to know about anything happening in X & Y before it comes out, HOWEVER I just want to state that this months Coro Coro magazine announcement has made me VERY HAPPY.
                                            To be honest, I am not so sure myself but will wait for it to come out....

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                                            ... chaining has been a bust,
                                            Please don't take this the wrong way but do you still remember the 'rules' of chaining? A refresher course may be useful if you are a little vague.

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                                            ...., I DID find a shiny Buizel. First thing on the route, AND the thing I wanted. It made me a verrry happy Kiro.
                                            Wow, that's a cool one :)

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                                            Alright, thanks to you I've decided to get both. ... I'll get it eventually. Woohoo.
                                            As above, the Woohoo suggests you are still super excited for it so keep going!

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                                            So far Icought shiney Charmendar,Charmeleon,Charizard,Pikachu,Raichu,Squirtle,Wartortle,Blastoise

                                            Now Im Finding All 1 Gen Siny Pokemons

                                            Im A Member Or Not?
                                            Yup you are a member just by posting :)

                                            Out of interest, are you aiming to have 1x Charmander, 1x Charmeleon, 1x Charizard at the same time, or 1 that has evolved to count as all 3? Up to you, either way is good, just interested.

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                                            Hey there, new member here.
                                            I've been trying to catch shinies since they came into existance.
                                            It's hard!
                                            I've only caught 1! in my entire life! and that was some low IV geodude!

                                            I guess I've caught the red gyrados we all have a shot at getting, but I don't count that one.
                                            Most people don't count Gyarados. I have it on my card, but it is obvious it is the Lake of Rage one. My brother has spent many many hours on pokemon games and still not found a legit shiny, so 'only' one is a negative way to look at an amazing thing that you have actually found one :)
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                                            Old August 10th, 2013 (1:12 PM).
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                                              For a while I was trying to breed for a shiny.
                                              That didn't work out either.
                                              But I did wind up with some good IVs!
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                                              Old August 11th, 2013 (4:36 AM). Edited August 11th, 2013 by Poki.
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                                                Hello. :P
                                                Shinies I have encountered/caught:
                                                Golbat - My first shiny ever. I caught it in the Emerald version, but I had to restart the game.
                                                Electabuzz - My second shiny, and my loyal team member on Pokemon Crystal.
                                                Gyarados - I caught it at the Lake Of Rage. (Crystal version)
                                                Poliwhirl - I accidentally made it faint while trying to weaken it. (Again, on Crystal version)
                                                Seaking - I was in a battle and the trainer sent it out.

                                                Question: Can I make a few userbars for the club? I love making those. :3
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