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Old September 12th, 2013 (1:30 AM).
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    With some leaked screenshots from Pokemon it was revealed that there is a new type triangle, that people could now use for their games. As you know instead of Fire Grass Water a lot of people use Fighting Dark Psychic and a few use Rock Ice Ground. Now you can use the new one:

    [COLOR="rgb(221, 160, 221)"]Fairy [/COLOR]--> Fighting --> Steel --> Fairy and so on.

    I'm possibly going to use this for my upcoming game but for now I will just make some sprites for it and put them up here when they're done. Hope this helped though.

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    Old September 12th, 2013 (8:48 AM).
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    Coming up with triangles is something quite easy to do... things would be a lot more interesting if you come up with just two Pokemon to begin your journey with, or five.

    Rock Ice Ground doesn't seem like a good triangle to me, since the majority of rock and ground type Pokemon have similar appearances and movesets.

    Anyways, here are some ideas:
    Three Pokemon:
    Fire > Steel > Rock
    Poison > Grass > Ground
    Ice > Ground > Fire

    Two Pokemon:
    Water/Ice <> Grass
    Ground/Psychic <> Grass/Poison
    Steel/Ground <> Fire/Fighting
    Normal/Flying <> Grass/Ice

    Something even more interesting would be a triangle like Houndoom <> Breloom <> Claydol.

    In my game, the starters are Poliwag and Ralts. A bit weird, you might think, but I'm kinda fed up with the "Rival picks Pokemon which has the type advantage over yours" concept.

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    Old September 12th, 2013 (12:39 PM).
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      Personally, I'm using the following triangle and pokemon:

      Ice -> Ground -> Steel

      Vanillite -> Trapinch -> Beldum

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      Old September 12th, 2013 (2:18 PM). Edited September 12th, 2013 by Sunfished.
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        Okay wait, isn't a Dark Psychic Fighting not a triangle?

        Dark is immune to Psychic, which completely makes it not a triangle. Unless you want a bias type-choice, of course.

        Ice, Ground, and Steel are also biased, as Ground hits Ice normally.

        Here's a list of all possible triangles(without the fairy)
        Rock/Flying/Fighting
        Fire/Rock/Steel
        Grass/Poison/Ground

        And by neglecting the damage by cross-typing:

        Here's a list of possible Quads:
        Fire/Bug/Grass/Water
        Fire/Grass/Ground/Rock
        Rock/Flying/Grass/Ground

        And Pentagons:
        Fire/Bug/Grass/Ground/Rock
        Bug/Grass/Ground/Rock/Flying

        this was found at:
        http://www.dragonflycave.com/

        This is, of course, if you were looking for legitimate triangles. That means that the type resists one and is super-effective against another.

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        Old September 12th, 2013 (2:53 PM).
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        @Sunfished: I don't think the quads you posted are legitimate as well...
        Fire has a advantage over both grass and bug...
        and grass can easily beat rock and ground.

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        Old September 12th, 2013 (3:29 PM).
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          As I said, the quads and quints are workable if you ignore the cross-typing

          But yeah, I just thought it was interesting to note that someone actually thought of quads and quints.

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            Why you would even use your ground starter against the rival's ice pokemon is beyond my level of comprehension.

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            Why you would even use your ground starter against the rival's ice pokemon is beyond my level of comprehension.
            Most ground type Pokemon are able to carry steel and rock typed moves, some may even carry fire and fighting moves...

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            Old September 13th, 2013 (12:19 PM).
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              Most ground type Pokemon are able to carry steel and rock typed moves, some may even carry fire and fighting moves...

              That's why I picked a starter that's only level-up learned move that is good against ice to be Rock Slide, which is learned at level 25, giving plenty of opportunity to get more Pokemon other than your starter.

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              Old September 13th, 2013 (1:34 PM).
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                As Elarmasecreta said, Ground has many quirks that can be still used against Ice-mons.

                Also, Ice is quite frail compared to Ground attackers. They most likely can't withstand an Earthquake.

                But it is your opinion, and the idea is quite new.

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                Old September 13th, 2013 (3:07 PM).
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                  Well, even though Ground is immune to Electric, I like the quint of

                  Water->Fire->Grass->Ground->Electric

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                  Old September 13th, 2013 (7:15 PM). Edited September 13th, 2013 by FluorescentMunchlax.
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                    Quote:
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                    Coming up with triangles is something quite easy to do... things would be a lot more interesting if you come up with just two Pokemon to begin your journey with, or five.

                    Rock Ice Ground doesn't seem like a good triangle to me, since the majority of rock and ground type Pokemon have similar appearances and movesets.

                    Anyways, here are some ideas:
                    Three Pokemon:
                    Fire > Steel > Rock
                    Poison > Grass > Ground
                    Ice > Ground > Fire

                    Two Pokemon:
                    Water/Ice <> Grass
                    Ground/Psychic <> Grass/Poison
                    Steel/Ground <> Fire/Fighting
                    Normal/Flying <> Grass/Ice

                    Something even more interesting would be a triangle like Houndoom <> Breloom <> Claydol.

                    In my game, the starters are Poliwag and Ralts. A bit weird, you might think, but I'm kinda fed up with the "Rival picks Pokemon which has the type advantage over yours" concept.

                    I guess that would be cool to have two. It would be kinda interesting but you could do it where the two are supereffective on eachother like Ghost Ghost or Dragon Dragon but I do see where you're coming from with the multi-types... and I get what you mean with rock and ground having similar movesets, i didn't take that into account...

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                    Personally, I'm using the following triangle and pokemon:

                    Ice -> Ground -> Steel

                    Vanillite -> Trapinch -> Beldum

                    That was one I considered... didn't want to clog my post with every single triangle possible, there's around 10-20

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                    Old September 13th, 2013 (7:17 PM).
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                      Psypokes has an article on type loops like these. Given, it's a bit outdated now that XY are on the horizon, but a good read. http://www.psypokes.com/lab/battlechart.php

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                      Old September 13th, 2013 (7:21 PM). Edited September 13th, 2013 by FluorescentMunchlax.
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                        Quote:
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                        Okay wait, isn't a Dark Psychic Fighting not a triangle?

                        Dark is immune to Psychic, which completely makes it not a triangle. Unless you want a bias type-choice, of course.

                        Ice, Ground, and Steel are also biased, as Ground hits Ice normally.

                        Here's a list of all possible triangles(without the fairy)
                        Rock/Flying/Fighting
                        Fire/Rock/Steel
                        Grass/Poison/Ground

                        And by neglecting the damage by cross-typing:

                        Here's a list of possible Quads:
                        Fire/Bug/Grass/Water
                        Fire/Grass/Ground/Rock
                        Rock/Flying/Grass/Ground

                        And Pentagons:
                        Fire/Bug/Grass/Ground/Rock
                        Bug/Grass/Ground/Rock/Flying

                        this was found at:

                        This is, of course, if you were looking for legitimate triangles. That means that the type resists one and is super-effective against another.

                        With Psychic not being able to hit Dark, you wouldn't ever use a grass move against a fire type starter, plus you could make it interesting and have the starters as
                        Natu 4x effective on Croagunk who is 4x effective on Sneasel. Sneasel isn't 4x effective on Natu, but instead has two types both 2x effective, making up for the lack of Natu not hitting Sneasel with Psychic moves.

                        Another thing, thanks for the fighitng flying rock one. Did not know that.

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                        Psypokes has an article on type loops like these. Given, it's a bit outdated now that XY are on the horizon, but a good read.

                        Thanks for the link! Will be sure to check this out.

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                        Old September 15th, 2013 (9:44 PM).
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                          Don't forget you also need to take stats into account when choosing starters. take for example Joeyhugg's vanillite,trapinch,& beldum triangle, beldum has a clear advantage because metagross's total base stats of 600 is alot higher the vanilluxe or flygon who have base stats of 535 & 520 respectively. also move pools are important

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