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Old August 17th, 2013 (2:26 AM).
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    After a booster box and an ETB. I pulled pretty much all the cards i needed for this deck. So i decided to go with it.
    Though im not really sure how i want to build this deck.

    Pokemon:14 (11 Basics)
    2x Genesect Ex
    2x Virizion Ex
    1x Shaymin Ex
    3-3 Abomasnow
    2x Tropius
    1x Genesect

    Supporters:13
    4x Juniper
    3x N
    1x Colress
    1x Iris
    1x Caitlin
    1x Shadow Triad
    2x Skyla

    Trainers:
    3x Ultra Ball
    2x Super Rod
    2x Energy Retrieval
    2x Switch
    2x Tool Scrapper
    1x Bicycle
    2x Pokemon Center
    2x Exp Share
    1x Silver Bangle
    1x Silver Mirror
    1x G Booster

    Energy:
    4 Plasma
    10 Grass

    Not really sure where i'm going with this deck yet. i only tried it against my roommate so far and he only uses 1 Ex, no plasma, and no tool cards. So i end up with a bunch of dead cards while facing him.

    Though atm i know there are a few things i may change. I dont really like the pokemon center right now. It helps me a little but not enough. I might end up using Virbank and Lasers, since i usually will have no fear of status effects. Though against mirrors it will be a useless 5/6 cards. Though plasma Firgate might be another alternative to help against fire types.

    I also might just take out plasma energy for catchers. I basically only use them for catcher since all of my pokemon only use 1 colorless energy, and only attaches to Genesect. so they are kinda of dead in my hand most of the time unless i need to catcher something out. I had Tornadus Ex in this deck for a bit to make use of the excess plasma energy. but i never found a good time to attach it to him. Maybe if i ran colress machines. But then i would have to run colress machine, catchers, and plasma energy.

    I'm also unsure if i want to use Caitlin or Colress yet. Colress is good since i usually have a large bench. But is bad early game. Though it can also be gotten back with shadow triad. Caitlin is only good if i have tons of cards in my hand, but it allows me to selectively recycle my hand, which can help if i need to hold onto a certain card.

    idk there are a lot of issues i have with this deck atm. But its only day one of deck construction. Any suggestions or comments?
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    Old September 1st, 2013 (6:47 AM).
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      Here's a list of edits I would highly suggest you do... It's just that Abombasnow isn't ideal for a speed deck like VirGen, and you shouldn't use Shaymin because this deck is about getting ahead in prizes, not fall behind and make a comeback. Shaymin will just get KO'ed quickly either way. and then you'll end up starting with it one day. Anyways, here we go!

      -3 Snover
      -3 Abombasnow
      -1 Shaymin-EX
      -1 Colress
      -1 Iris
      -1 Pokemon Center
      -1 Silver Bangle
      -1 Silver Mirror
      *also, these one counts of everything makes your deck inconsistent.

      +1 N
      +2 Caitlin
      +2 Genesect-EX
      +1 Virizion-EX
      +4 Pokemon Catcher (why would you even not include it in this deck? ._.")
      +2 Skyla
      +1 Bicycle (((only if you can get rid of a lot of your hand quickly)))

      Just for fun, you may want to add in 2 Exeggcute, 1/2 Level ball, and some other 'discard 2 cards' trainers. Double Propagations change Computer Search to 'search your deck for a card and put it into your hand', and Superior Energy Retrieval becomes 'put 4 basic energy cards from your discard pile into your hand' and the best part is: Propagation refreshes every time it returns to your hand, so you can have quicker setups etc. I used this in an Unlimited deck once, its so broken haha anyways, good luck with your deck!
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      Old September 2nd, 2013 (1:55 AM).
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        i've edited this deck quite a bit since i posted it. Its focus changed quite a bit, and i have also moved on to a different deck as my main deck. Though looking at it now i sort of feel like i would make more changes to it now.

        I'm actually tempted to no have Genesect Ex at all. It takes a lot of set up to make it helpful. its clunky and requires G booster to be at its best. Taking up space and my ace spec. Also makes you discard energy pretty fast. It also adds a 2 prize pokemon that Haxorus decks can catcher and OHKO.

        Abomasnow is actually pretty good. With virizion in play, he can attack for 80 damage and confuse the opponent. Plus its a water pokemon that runs on grass energy so it can counter fire pokemon pretty well. 160 damage with weakness added in + confuse can make it a hard decision to try attacking. If you attack a bangle you can probably OHKO any fire type, or something weak to water.

        I would possibly try something like this, if i were to go back to this deck. Genesect didnt really do much for this deck in most battles. It ended up sitting on my bench, catchering stuff and hogging energy and then discarding it for a single knock out. Even with Virizion it takes until turn 3 to have a chance to attack with Genesect Ex. I tried going the route of Abomasnow and it usually works alot better and faster. It can attack as its basic pretty quickly. Turn 2 it can start attacking with either Virizion powering it up or just by attaching energy to itself and hitting for 80 and confusing. 110 to Exs and 160 to water weak pokemon, and 220 to water weak Ex pokemon. Exp shares greatly speed up following Abomasnow.

        Pokemon: 12
        2x Virizion Ex
        3-3 Abomasnow
        3x Tropius
        1x Shaymin BCR

        Supporters: 12
        4x Juniper
        3x N
        2x Skyla
        1x Iris
        2x Colress

        Item: 22
        2x Exp Share
        4x Catcher
        4x Hypnotoxic
        2x Virbank
        1x Tool Scrapper
        2x Silver Bangle
        1x Computer Search
        2x Ultra Ball
        1x Super Rod
        1x Bicycle
        3x Switch

        Energy: 13
        13 Grass
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        Old September 4th, 2013 (7:53 AM).
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          I personally love Abomasnow so i think you should def have more of him, tank up a bit
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          Old September 5th, 2013 (12:35 AM). Edited September 5th, 2013 by Profen.
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            I might buy another booster box. Who knows. Gensect/virzion are in such demand right now that if i do manage to pull another one it will pretty much allow me to trade for anything i want and probably a bunch. My last box was amazing for PB.

            Plus i want to get another deck going, probably my kingdra deck since it doesnt use Ns anyway. I need more juniper, ultraball, catchers, and i would like pretty much any of the Exs in this set. Dialga mostly, as i want to try the porygon Z mill deck. I also would need another Abomasnow if i were to go 4-4
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            Old September 13th, 2013 (8:30 PM).
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            nice deck but i would put some more pokemon and energy and less item cards.
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            Old September 13th, 2013 (8:44 PM).
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            nice deck but i would put some more pokemon and energy and less item cards.
            Item cards are an indispensable part of a great deck because they help support your Pokemon cards and also help you get out your key Pokemon faster than your opponent.

            Anyway, back on topic, Abomasnow is too slow for a speed deck.
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            Old September 14th, 2013 (3:02 AM).
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              Idk if you ever seen VirGen decks play. But it is not a speed deck. Its middle speed at best, which usually ends up with you crashing and burning. Either way i just dont like the way this deck plays. Im more into weird rogue decks either way. Speaking of which i just got inspiration for another weird one that might even work.
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