ROM Hacking Need a helping hand? You can get help on any ROM Hacking-related problems or questions you have here.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1    
Old December 17th, 2012 (1:27 AM).
Shubshub's Avatar
Shubshub Shubshub is offline
Master of The Y
     
    Join Date: Oct 2009
    Location: Lumiose City, Kalos
    Age: 21
    Gender: Male
    Nature: Quiet
    Posts: 419

    Im Just wondering why the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series has never been hacked Nor had any tools developed for it I Mean it uses 2D Sprites so It can't be that hard to hack it

    Although the Latest Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 3D Magnagate or something won't be editable for a long time I would love to see Mystery Dungeon hacks it might be interesting

    __________________

    [Nintendo 3DS]: 4441 8375 5933 [Pokemon Y]

    My Favorite Pokémon!
    Garchomp
    Powered By Kabigon! -The Website Made by me-


    Relevant Advertising!

      #2    
    Old December 17th, 2012 (11:06 AM).
    Gamer2020's Avatar
    Gamer2020 Gamer2020 is offline
    Accept no Imitations!
       
      Join Date: Jun 2008
      Location: Distant Land
      Gender: Male
      Nature: Bold
      Posts: 903

      I think thethethethe and sebbe were working on hacking the gba one years ago. I can tell you however that from looking at the ROM in tile molester the images are uncompressed and it's very easy to replace Pokemon images.

      __________________


        #3    
      Old December 18th, 2012 (11:51 PM).
      Ninja Caterpie's Avatar
      Ninja Caterpie Ninja Caterpie is offline
      Sitting by the back window
         
        Join Date: Mar 2008
        Location: Best City OCE
        Age: 21
        Gender: Male
        Nature: Bold
        Posts: 5,945

        Because 90% of the game is randomised dungeon crawling.

        __________________

        Brony represent.

          #4    
        Old December 21st, 2012 (2:49 PM).
        sab's Avatar
        sab sab is offline
        Now too much of a life.
           
          Join Date: Jul 2008
          Location: Midgar
          Age: 21
          Gender: Male
          Nature: Timid
          Posts: 995

          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie View Post
          Because 90% of the game is randomised dungeon crawling.

          This and the fact that it is a spin off game series. I want to say that someone built a script editor (or maybe just a dialog editor), but that was a good ways back.

          __________________

            #5    
          Old December 21st, 2012 (3:02 PM).
          Chaos Rush's Avatar
          Chaos Rush Chaos Rush is offline
             
            Join Date: May 2007
            Gender: Male
            Posts: 1,302

            Because no one cares about Mystery Dungeon.

            /thread

            __________________

              #6    
            Old December 21st, 2012 (3:40 PM).
            esperance's Avatar
            esperance esperance is offline
            • Platinum Tier
             
            Join Date: Mar 2010
            Location: Ohio
            Age: 20
            Gender: Male
            Nature: Relaxed
            Posts: 3,819

            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Chaos Rush View Post
            Because no one cares about Mystery Dungeon.

            /thread

            This. I'm sure there are some people have tried to hack it, but when it comes down to it, they don't have a large enough fan-base for anything to have really happened.

            __________________

            I was once somebody.

              #7    
            Old December 22nd, 2012 (9:32 AM).
            BRNMan BRNMan is offline
               
              Join Date: Oct 2012
              Gender: Male
              Posts: 1

              On the topic of mystery dungeon hacking, has anyone tried getting vba-sdl-h to work with it? For some reason I got endless breakpoint on reads when I started running it. Any ideas why?

                #8    
              Old December 22nd, 2012 (10:22 AM).
              InkFrog's Avatar
              InkFrog InkFrog is offline
                 
                Join Date: Dec 2012
                Gender: Female
                Posts: 58

                I think it's interesting because I know there's a ton of rps and fanfic out there set in the mystery dungeon universe, but I think that's mainly because they're the only games that really star pokemon as opposed to humans. Game-wise, there's not a ton of mechanics to them that are very interesting to work with, and they usually have a slightly stronger (or at least more obvious) plot than the main games so there's less of a drive to "correct" them to a better plot as some hacks try to do. That's my two cents :3

                I've only ever played the first mystery dungeon though, so I may be over generalizing based on my experience with that >.>

                  #9    
                Old December 25th, 2012 (12:04 AM).
                Satoshi Ookami's Avatar
                Satoshi Ookami Satoshi Ookami is offline
                Memento Mori
                • Gold Tier
                 
                Join Date: Jul 2008
                Location: Abyss of Time, Great Seal
                Age: 25
                Gender: Male
                Nature: Calm
                Posts: 14,494

                Yeah, but only starter editing is not really that much of a progress...

                __________________

                ROM hacking FAQ - Read before asking how to play a hack.

                Anime List | PSN Trophy List

                  #10    
                Old December 25th, 2012 (3:59 PM).
                KarosNB's Avatar
                KarosNB KarosNB is offline
                   
                  Join Date: Dec 2012
                  Gender: Male
                  Posts: 15

                  Small fan base, like the other guy above said.
                  /nowdefinatlythread

                    #11    
                  Old December 25th, 2012 (4:50 PM).
                  Lord Varion's Avatar
                  Lord Varion Lord Varion is offline
                  Guess who's back?
                     
                    Join Date: Feb 2009
                    Age: 23
                    Gender: Other
                    Nature: Naughty
                    Posts: 2,644

                    The only hacking tool I've seen for PMD:1 B/R is the starter editing tool, which won't get you far in a 'decent' hack.
                    The ''closet'' thing I've ever seen to MD hacks is hacks that claim to be a port of Mystery Dungeon onto Pokemon Ruby, when really the dungeons aren't mysterious, and not randomly made at all.

                    __________________

                    gone.

                      #12    
                    Old January 1st, 2013 (10:30 PM). Edited January 4th, 2013 by Ductus.
                    Ductus Ductus is offline
                       
                      Join Date: Jan 2013
                      Posts: 1

                      I concur with Nintendork15. I've just registered to this forum (hi!) after searching for the past couple of hours trying to find a way to customize my PMD Red Rescue that I plan to play with VBA and a smart phone emulator. The most I have found is Sebbe's starter editor, an upload of a table file, and some limited gameshark codes that focus primarily on editing stats and inventory (there is a way to modify the pokemon species of your team members, but it's a temporary and possibly cosmetic fix only).

                        #13    
                      Old January 20th, 2013 (9:40 AM).
                      Bey-Heart's Avatar
                      Bey-Heart Bey-Heart is offline
                         
                        Join Date: Jan 2013
                        Gender: Male
                        Posts: 16

                        I don't know about you guys, but I make rom hacks because I think it's fun. I like the Mystery Dungeon games, but I feel like they wouldn't be that fun to hack. Assuming a lot of other rom hackers feel the same way, that's probably one of the bigger reasons why.

                          #14    
                        Old January 20th, 2013 (12:19 PM).
                        hi sir tomato my password is syvniti's Avatar
                        hi sir tomato my password is syvniti hi sir tomato my password is syvniti is offline
                        gggggggggggggggggg
                           
                          Join Date: Jan 2007
                          Location: My user name _ asciii_ +&h1!" lulz
                          Posts: 581

                          Thethethethe and I made some progress, 2007/2008. Unfortently I keept most of my discoveries on my computer, and they're long gone... I can't remember much (if anything), but the game had some easy parts as the plain ascii text and way the sprites are storred.

                          I think we got pretty well into scripting and got quite a bit of the language documented, so we could do some scripting, while we never even got started on maps or any visual work.

                          I also started programing during that period, and wrote some kind of editor. Heres a screenshot. Since the picture was taken, I think I only added 2 or 3 extra programs too it, (Which all was just able to perform simple hex edits). I never released it officially, but sended some betas around on msn, which I think are propperly gone forever.

                          Spoiler:

                          It's not that people haven't thought about going into the game since, I get about 2-3 people on average per year asking for info on the games, and mainly just the tool.

                          __________________

                          THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                            #15    
                          Old January 29th, 2013 (6:10 PM).
                          PenguinStorm's Avatar
                          PenguinStorm PenguinStorm is offline
                          Stormeo
                             
                            Join Date: Jan 2013
                            Age: 19
                            Gender: Male
                            Posts: 15

                            Its already so random why bother?

                              #16    
                            Old February 16th, 2013 (2:17 PM).
                            Hederbomb's Avatar
                            Hederbomb Hederbomb is offline
                               
                              Join Date: Jan 2013
                              Gender: Male
                              Nature: Rash
                              Posts: 60

                              All you could possibly change is text and possibly pokemon square. The rest of the game is random generation like Minecraft without seeds. If it WAS possible to change it, it would probably be very hard.
                              So yeah, The only way to hack MD is to make a spin-off of it on ruby or something like that.

                              __________________


                              Want to know whats wrong with someone? The real question is what ISN'T wrong with that person.
                              That is the real answer.

                                #17    
                              Old February 23rd, 2013 (4:39 PM).
                              droomph's Avatar
                              droomph droomph is offline

                              weeb

                              • Crystal Tier
                               
                              Join Date: Sep 2011
                              Location: nowhere spectacular
                              Age: 20
                              Gender: Male
                              Nature: Impish
                              Posts: 4,291

                              Nay, I say. None y'all get it.

                              It's a very good game to hack - the only difference is, is that there's a randomized dungeon.

                              It's in no way like Minecraft. It's a deep story, has cool graphics, and is very fun to play, at least in my experience.

                              That's the problem, though. Everyone just thinks "oh f that it's just minecraft with Pokémon", and thus, we never make any progress on it.

                              It's sad ;;

                              __________________

                              did u no there r 21 letters in the alphabet
                              o i forgot 5
                              uraqt

                                #18    
                              Old February 23rd, 2013 (4:46 PM).
                              GoGoJJTech's Avatar
                              GoGoJJTech GoGoJJTech is offline
                              (☞゚ヮ゚)☞ http://GoGoJJTech.com ☜(゚ヮ゚☜)
                              • Gold Tier
                               
                              Join Date: Nov 2012
                              Location: Earth
                              Age: 18
                              Gender: Female
                              Nature: Jolly
                              Posts: 2,477

                              Quote:
                              Originally Posted by The_CGC View Post
                              All you could possibly change is text and possibly pokemon square. The rest of the game is random generation like Minecraft without seeds. If it WAS possible to change it, it would probably be very hard.
                              So yeah, The only way to hack MD is to make a spin-off of it on ruby or something like that.

                              Like pokemon ruby destiny rescue rangers by destinedjagold

                              __________________

                              I believe in Jesus Christ my Savior. If you do too, and aren't scared to admit it, then copy and paste this into your signature.
                              The HGSS Music Patch - The BW/2 Music Patch - ASM: Switch Music Based on Seasons
                              Romhack.me Profile - Pokecommunity Profile - Youtube Channel

                              Support me at my site!
                              Pokémon Platinum Red and Blue

                                #19    
                              Old February 24th, 2013 (4:33 AM).
                              bigro bigro is offline
                                 
                                Join Date: Oct 2011
                                Gender: Male
                                Posts: 1

                                Quote:
                                Originally Posted by droomph View Post
                                Nay, I say. None y'all get it.

                                It's a very good game to hack - the only difference is, is that there's a randomized dungeon.

                                It's in no way like Minecraft. It's a deep story, has cool graphics, and is very fun to play, at least in my experience.

                                That's the problem, though. Everyone just thinks "oh f that it's just minecraft with Pokémon", and thus, we never make any progress on it.

                                It's sad ;;

                                >just like minecraft

                                why is anything with random generation like minecraft these days...anyway.

                                No, this is not great to hack. Simply because the gameplay is generic/trivial when the main draw is the plot. Dungeon trawlers are not hard to make, good plot IS. (likewise with the main pokemon line but inverted, I would split hairs trying to balance that crap meanwhile it's plot ain't all that great.)

                                Think of it like this, without the dungeon trawling, what exactly is lost from the game...
                                Nothing really, because it plays out like a picture book.
                                Whereas with the main pokemon line, taking out the battling just makes it a moot point. Thus you see people trying to unmoot this point as well as expanding into it's gameplay. Or you know, hacks. Dohohoho.

                                Look, just go google 'pokemon rougelike' or 'pokemon dungeon trawler' with your advanced search to filter out the word mystery.

                                have fun~

                                Also make your own. go git yo programun finguhs awn.

                                  #20    
                                Old February 24th, 2013 (5:57 PM).
                                machomuu's Avatar
                                machomuu machomuu is offline
                                • Crystal Tier
                                • Crystal Tier
                                 
                                Join Date: Apr 2008
                                Location: Americalanavania
                                Gender: Male
                                Nature: Relaxed
                                Posts: 10,248

                                @bigro - Having played many other roguelike games and dungeon crawlers, I can safely say that, as far as gameplay goes, PMD isn't generic, and you'd be hardpressed to find many of the mechanics found in PMD in other roguelikes.

                                People do play for the gameplay, too. It's actually hard to find a game that sells based solely on story and sells well these days.

                                __________________

                                Paired to and madly in love with a literal Symphony of legs.


                                I also watch anime sometimes. Just a little.

                                  #21    
                                Old February 24th, 2013 (6:36 PM).
                                dcjboi's Avatar
                                dcjboi dcjboi is offline
                                With Quiet Courage
                                   
                                  Join Date: Dec 2010
                                  Location: In between Heaven and Earth
                                  Nature: Timid
                                  Posts: 420

                                  I absolutely hate how everyone is comparing it to minecraft... 2 entirely types of gameplay... if randomized locations makes a game like minecraft then I guess Persona 4 is in the same boat... (sarcasm). Although most of the gameplay is randomized doesn't mean we should dismiss it as "okay as it is." Maybe someone interested could create an entirely different story out of it and maybe even add 5th gen to it. I'm not much of a coder but I'm just saying that I can see the Possibility of a MD rom hack. If someone just managed to make an entirely different story script, resprite a few dungeons and switch a few starters around, it could be a great game. Maybe someone can even add a more open world to it, making the "overworld" more explorable.

                                  __________________


                                    #22    
                                  Old September 28th, 2013 (10:30 AM).
                                  Kalex54's Avatar
                                  Kalex54 Kalex54 is offline
                                     
                                    Join Date: Aug 2013
                                    Gender: Male
                                    Nature: Timid
                                    Posts: 4

                                    In my opinion the PMD series is my favorite thing ever, though I still respect others opinions. And look at me.....at my picture of me....kinda

                                    __________________

                                      #23    
                                    Old October 2nd, 2013 (6:12 AM).
                                    giradialkia's Avatar
                                    giradialkia giradialkia is offline
                                    • Crystal Tier
                                     
                                    Join Date: Apr 2009
                                    Location: Ireland
                                    Age: 23
                                    Gender: Male
                                    Nature: Timid
                                    Posts: 1,563

                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by Kalex54 View Post
                                    In my opinion the PMD series is my favorite thing ever, though I still respect others opinions. And look at me.....at my picture of me....kinda

                                    Please check the date of the last valid post in a thread before posting. Several months have passed since the last post was made in this thread (before yours), and so it's against the rules to revive it. Be sure to read the stickies in any forum before posting to make sure of rules such as this.

                                    __________________


                                    I'm working on an album of Pokémon-inspired music. Check out the Soundcloud link if you're interested!


                                    This is my Soundcloud | | This is my bandcamp

                                    Closed Thread
                                    Quick Reply

                                    Sponsored Links
                                    Thread Tools

                                    Posting Rules
                                    You may not post new threads
                                    You may not post replies
                                    You may not post attachments
                                    You may not edit your posts

                                    BB code is On
                                    Smilies are On
                                    [IMG] code is On
                                    HTML code is Off

                                    Forum Jump


                                    All times are GMT -8. The time now is 3:26 AM.