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Old November 6th, 2013 (2:07 PM).
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    Sounds amazing, Faster and more efficient

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    Old November 6th, 2013 (2:46 PM).
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      Oh good lord, All I hope is that I can come back from the dead before this happens. O.O

      This server upgrade will be the longest 3 days of my life.

      i remember another forum i use upgraded its forum software and everything took like a week because the owner got a JavaScript error of some sort.

      Hopefully that won't happen to PC or I will cry my eyes out. ;~;

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      Old November 6th, 2013 (5:03 PM).
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      I'm very happy to hear that PC is getting a brand new server. That means that Donating to PC has definitely paid off and helped. That being said, we still shouldn't be not donating whatever spare money we have at our hands--PC will keep getting better and better in time that is a guaranteed fact.

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      Nice job.

      Now just get rid of the themes with tons of/gigantic images and your server will like you even more. :3

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      I look forward to a snappy server serving pages snappily without much fuss, unlike what I've seen in the past. I hope things do go smoothly for you guys to the point that new features are made available simply because the load is low enough to not have the servers keel over.

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      Nice job.

      Now just get rid of the themes with tons of/gigantic images and your server will like you even more. :3

      Wouldn't that be called "feature loss"? If things go right, there would be less pressing need to remove these styles.

      Besides, I'm pretty sure "very fancy forum styling that somewhat stresses the browser engines and GPUs" is probably PokéCommunity's trademark at this point.

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        I must know, as a geek and fellow sysadmin, what are the specs of the new box?

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        I must know, as a geek and fellow sysadmin, what are the specs of the new box?

        here are some basic details of the server..

        Motherboard SuperMicro X8DTU-F Intel Xeon DualProc SAS/SATA [2Proc]
        Processor Intel Xeon-Nehalem 5520-Quadcore [2.2GHz] w/ HT
        Processor Intel Xeon-Nehalem 5520-Quadcore [2.2GHz] w/ HT
        RAM slot 1 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
        RAM slot 2 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
        RAM slot 3 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
        RAM slot 4 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
        RAM slot 5 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
        RAM slot 6 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
        RAM slot 7 Empty
        RAM slot 8 Empty
        RAM slot 9 Empty
        RAM slot 10 Empty
        RAM slot 11 Empty
        RAM slot 12 Empty

        Drive Controller Mainboard \ Onboard \ SATAII Controller
        Hard Drive 1 wcasy8304795 Western Digital WD Caviar RE3 WD5002ABYS [500GB]
        Hard Drive 2 wcasy7836672 Western Digital WD Caviar RE3 WD5002ABYS [500GB]
        Hard Drive 3 Empty
        Hard Drive 4 Empty

        Remote Mgmt Card SuperMicro Winbond WPCM450 - Onboard IPMI-KVM
        Power Supply SuperMicro PWS-561-1H20 (20) R6.1 560W
        Backplane SuperMicro BPN-SAS-815TQ 4 Port Passive

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        English translation: it's going to be a much more efficient server, technologically speaking.

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          here are some basic details of the server..

          Motherboard SuperMicro X8DTU-F Intel Xeon DualProc SAS/SATA [2Proc]
          Processor Intel Xeon-Nehalem 5520-Quadcore [2.2GHz] w/ HT
          Processor Intel Xeon-Nehalem 5520-Quadcore [2.2GHz] w/ HT
          RAM slot 1 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
          RAM slot 2 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
          RAM slot 3 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
          RAM slot 4 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
          RAM slot 5 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
          RAM slot 6 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
          RAM slot 7 Empty
          RAM slot 8 Empty
          RAM slot 9 Empty
          RAM slot 10 Empty
          RAM slot 11 Empty
          RAM slot 12 Empty

          Drive Controller Mainboard \ Onboard \ SATAII Controller
          Hard Drive 1 wcasy8304795 Western Digital WD Caviar RE3 WD5002ABYS [500GB]
          Hard Drive 2 wcasy7836672 Western Digital WD Caviar RE3 WD5002ABYS [500GB]
          Hard Drive 3 Empty
          Hard Drive 4 Empty

          Remote Mgmt Card SuperMicro Winbond WPCM450 - Onboard IPMI-KVM
          Power Supply SuperMicro PWS-561-1H20 (20) R6.1 560W
          Backplane SuperMicro BPN-SAS-815TQ 4 Port Passive

          So,that's 24GB RAM, 2xNehalem Xeons(17,6Ghz toghether[4 cores at 2.2GHz=8.8GHz]+[4 cores at 2.2GHz=8.8GHz]),1TB HDD(poor choice- I would go for 4 SSD's at 256GB instead+are the HHDs RAIDed or are they acting as separate HDDs?).That looks preety good for me.

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          Old November 12th, 2013 (11:22 AM).
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            Quote:
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            here are some basic details of the server..

            Motherboard SuperMicro X8DTU-F Intel Xeon DualProc SAS/SATA [2Proc]
            Processor Intel Xeon-Nehalem 5520-Quadcore [2.2GHz] w/ HT
            Processor Intel Xeon-Nehalem 5520-Quadcore [2.2GHz] w/ HT
            RAM slot 1 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
            RAM slot 2 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
            RAM slot 3 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
            RAM slot 4 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
            RAM slot 5 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
            RAM slot 6 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
            RAM slot 7 Empty
            RAM slot 8 Empty
            RAM slot 9 Empty
            RAM slot 10 Empty
            RAM slot 11 Empty
            RAM slot 12 Empty

            Drive Controller Mainboard \ Onboard \ SATAII Controller
            Hard Drive 1 wcasy8304795 Western Digital WD Caviar RE3 WD5002ABYS [500GB]
            Hard Drive 2 wcasy7836672 Western Digital WD Caviar RE3 WD5002ABYS [500GB]
            Hard Drive 3 Empty
            Hard Drive 4 Empty

            Remote Mgmt Card SuperMicro Winbond WPCM450 - Onboard IPMI-KVM
            Power Supply SuperMicro PWS-561-1H20 (20) R6.1 560W
            Backplane SuperMicro BPN-SAS-815TQ 4 Port Passive

            You have a SAS backplane, but you didn't list any SAS drives. Are you going to be moving the database to the SATA drives?

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            So,that's 24GB RAM, 2xNehalem Xeons(17,6Ghz toghether[4 cores at 2.2GHz=8.8GHz]+[4 cores at 2.2GHz=8.8GHz]),1TB HDD(poor choice- I would go for 4 SSD's at 256GB instead+are the HHDs RAIDed or are they acting as separate HDDs?).That looks preety good for me.
            Those drives are most likely going to be set up in a RAID1 to allow for one of the drives to fail. What I have set up for my VM Host is similar, but I have 11 76GB 15k RPM SAS drives set up in a RAID6 for VM Storage.

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            I have no clue how to read server lingo, but I'm trusting Livewire that this new server will make PC run much faster and smoother. Good luck with moving guys!

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              I have no clue how to read server lingo, but I'm trusting Livewire that this new server will make PC run much faster and smoother. Good luck with moving guys!
              Basically, it's what Livewire said:it's going to be a good, efficent server.

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                here are some basic details of the server..

                Motherboard SuperMicro X8DTU-F Intel Xeon DualProc SAS/SATA [2Proc]
                Processor Intel Xeon-Nehalem 5520-Quadcore [2.2GHz] w/ HT
                Processor Intel Xeon-Nehalem 5520-Quadcore [2.2GHz] w/ HT
                RAM slot 1 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
                RAM slot 2 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
                RAM slot 3 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
                RAM slot 4 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
                RAM slot 5 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
                RAM slot 6 Kingston 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 4GB DDR3 2Rx8 [4GB]
                RAM slot 7 Empty
                RAM slot 8 Empty
                RAM slot 9 Empty
                RAM slot 10 Empty
                RAM slot 11 Empty
                RAM slot 12 Empty

                Drive Controller Mainboard \ Onboard \ SATAII Controller
                Hard Drive 1 wcasy8304795 Western Digital WD Caviar RE3 WD5002ABYS [500GB]
                Hard Drive 2 wcasy7836672 Western Digital WD Caviar RE3 WD5002ABYS [500GB]
                Hard Drive 3 Empty
                Hard Drive 4 Empty

                Remote Mgmt Card SuperMicro Winbond WPCM450 - Onboard IPMI-KVM
                Power Supply SuperMicro PWS-561-1H20 (20) R6.1 560W
                Backplane SuperMicro BPN-SAS-815TQ 4 Port Passive

                What were the specs of the previous server?

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                Wouldn't that be called "feature loss"? If things go right, there would be less pressing need to remove these styles.

                Besides, I'm pretty sure "very fancy forum styling that somewhat stresses the browser engines and GPUs" is probably PokéCommunity's trademark at this point.

                Depending on how you look at it, sure. And it's not so much a problem with browsers or GPUs, any computer made from 2000+ can handle all the images fine. It's more of a matter of 300,000 people downloading the images from the server every single time they clear their cache or visit the site for the first time. Just a lot of overhead that's all.

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                SSD drives, no.. not yet (too much $$) same for SAS.

                the old specs are:
                Motherboard Dell Single socket 1067FSB - Quad Core Capable PowerEdge 840
                Processor Intel 2.13 GHz 1066FSB - Kentsfield Xeon 3210 (Quad Core)
                RAM slot 1 OEM Standard DDR2 667 ECC [2048MB]
                RAM slot 2 OEM Standard DDR2 667 ECC [2048MB]
                RAM slot 3 OEM Standard DDR2 667 ECC [2048MB]
                RAM slot 4 OEM Standard DDR2 667 ECC [2048MB]

                Drive Controller Generic \ Onboard \ SATA
                Hard Drive 1 Generic 250GB:SATA:7200RPM 250GBSATA [250GB]
                Hard Drive 2 Generic 250GB:SATA:7200RPM 250GBSATA [250GB]

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                  SSD drives, no.. not yet (too much $$) same for SAS.

                  the old specs are:
                  Motherboard Dell Single socket 1067FSB - Quad Core Capable PowerEdge 840
                  Processor Intel 2.13 GHz 1066FSB - Kentsfield Xeon 3210 (Quad Core)
                  RAM slot 1 OEM Standard DDR2 667 ECC [2048MB]
                  RAM slot 2 OEM Standard DDR2 667 ECC [2048MB]
                  RAM slot 3 OEM Standard DDR2 667 ECC [2048MB]
                  RAM slot 4 OEM Standard DDR2 667 ECC [2048MB]

                  Drive Controller Generic \ Onboard \ SATA
                  Hard Drive 1 Generic 250GBATA:7200RPM 250GBSATA [250GB]
                  Hard Drive 2 Generic 250GBATA:7200RPM 250GBSATA [250GB]

                  You aren't going to see a huge speed bump until get off of 7200RPM drives I moved our CRM database from 7200 RPM to 15K SAS drives, and the speed boost was insane. Depending on how big the database is, 2.5" 76GB 15K SAS drives are like $50USD on Amazon. Buy a few, stick them in a RAID, and be amazed at the speed. (Unless you don't have a perk card, those can be a bit pricey)

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                  OK

                  The physical files / databases transfer is completed waiting on DNS.

                  While we wait for DNS to fully update, we will troubleshoot the move.....
                  SO if you find an error or something not quite right, let us know either in a reply or via PM.

                  Thanks everyone for your patience during this move and downtime.

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                  Would it be realistic enough for me to say that I can already feel a difference, or is this just me mirroring my delusions unto my perception of the site loading speed, I really can't tell.

                  BUT YAY FINALLY WOOHOO
                  That was hardly a day, thank you to all the staff for working hard and making this as swift a move as possible. <3

                  EDIT: OKAY this did technically take a few years to achieve so I suppose it really wasn't that quick. :p
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                  I was promised 1 - 2 days off, but instead all I got was a downtime the length of an average night's worth of sleep. Please don't make promises you can't keep, PC.

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                  Just kidding, of course. It's ironic that something we've wanted for a few years now only took mere hours to get done. We're finally moving up in the world and it makes me so happy. Looking forward to the forums running faster with more stability and efficiency and less down times.

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                  Do we have concrete statistics on performance improvements of PokéCommunity after the server upgrades?

                  Hmm... By the way, are the memory modules running in dual or tri-channel mode? It's extremely likely to be at least dual-channel from what I've seen.

                  Multiple 7200 RPM hard disk drives are actually pretty OK these days as long as we're not too concerned with random access times of the disk - I think the large amount of memory goes a long way when it comes to caching frequently-accessed data on the RAM. Does PC do it?

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                  Do we have concrete statistics on performance improvements of PokéCommunity after the server upgrades?

                  Hmm... By the way, are the memory modules running in dual or tri-channel mode? It's extremely likely to be at least dual-channel from what I've seen.

                  Multiple 7200 RPM hard disk drives are actually pretty OK these days as long as we're not too concerned with random access times of the disk - I think the large amount of memory goes a long way when it comes to caching frequently-accessed data on the RAM. Does PC do it?

                  Load Averages: 0.92 0.78 0.70
                  (MUCH lower then our previous average of 2.5 - 4.5, 'course its not yet busy as it may take a day or 2 for DNS to fully updated)

                  They are dual-channel RAMs..

                  we also run memcache to put more processes into RAM and speed up many MySQL actions.

                  The RAM will help a lot and allows use to open up another 200 to 300 connections to both the webserver and the database server.

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                  Load Averages: 0.92 0.78 0.70
                  (MUCH lower then our previous average of 2.5 - 4.5, 'course its not yet busy as it may take a day or 2 for DNS to fully updated)

                  They are dual-channel RAMs..

                  we also run memcache to put more processes into RAM and speed up many MySQL actions.

                  The RAM will help a lot and allows use to open up another 200 to 300 connections to both the webserver and the database server.

                  It's reassuring to hear that the load averages are now significantly lower, the memory is configured properly, and that the server is caching data in the memory.

                  I see two unused drive bays. Thinking of going with more hard disk drives in there for extra redundancy or speed in the future?

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                  This has got to be the smoothest server move I have ever seen with a website. Back in 2010 a forum I visited that was smaller than PC and didn't have the same downtime problems had a longer downtime in the moving process. Great to see everything is back up and running though!

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                  i came here not expecting it to be up, but omg!! its so much faster! it takes less than a second to load a page now and my internet is slow as molasses!!!

                  but i don't understand. isn't the dns what allows people to connect to a website in the first place? i know i can't access my website when something is up with my dns. how come we can access the forum?

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                  Aw poop, I haven't even started my LoA yet and we're back up xD Well, it's better this way than having it take even longer time. So I'm happy, thanks for the effort! Everything works really smoothly.

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