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Old November 30th, 2013 (6:44 PM).
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Mandibuzz @ Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature
- Foul Play
- Roost
- Taunt
- Toxic

252 SpA Mega Gengar Sludge Bomb vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Mandibuzz: 135-159 (31.9 - 37.5%)
0 Atk Mandibuzz Foul Play vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Gengar: 156-186 (59.5 - 70.9%)

Assuming Mega Gengar's Shadow Tag isn't in effect until next turn so that Mandibuzz can switch in; otherwise, it's technically impossible to counter.

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Old November 30th, 2013 (7:57 PM).
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Mawile:

-Swords Dance/Substitute
-Play Rough
-Sucker Punch
-Fire Fang/Iron Head/Substitute
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 132 HP/252 Atk/124 Spe
Item: Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate

Though an unboosted Mega Mawile takes around 30% health from Foul Play, it doesn't care about Toxic (or possibly Taunt, if it doesn't need to set up on future turns) and can wreck Mandibuzz with Play Rough.

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Old December 1st, 2013 (6:08 AM).
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244 HP / 36 SpA / 12 SpD / 216 Spe
Calm Nature
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- Torment
- Lava Plume
- Protect

Avoids Sucker Punch and at worst 4x resists everything. Can then Torment water and stuff with one attacking move switch ins so they cant do squat.

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Old December 1st, 2013 (6:26 AM).
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Terrakion @ Life Orb
252 Atk / 252 Spe
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-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake

Resists only attack, hits for at least neutral damage and can set up with ease unless lava plume burns.

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Old December 1st, 2013 (6:59 AM).
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.gamer is trying to kill the thread picking terrakion

best counter is probably

Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 240 HP / 248 Def / 20 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Taunt
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Protect

Terrakion can't set up on it and takes around 80 from an EQ, an OHKO if it already used CC for some reason. Tangrowth is decent since it can KO or put Terrak to sleep but it has a chance of being ohko'd after SR. The real best counter to Terrakion is not letting it get into situations where it can set up easily, or at least force 50-50's. Bright powder Shedinja does decent too im sure.

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Old December 3rd, 2013 (4:11 AM).
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Skarmory @Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 SpD
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Brave Bird
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Roost

uhmmmmm yeah, i don't think this needs any explanation

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Old December 3rd, 2013 (5:32 AM). Edited December 3rd, 2013 by Jin Of The Gale.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zeffy View Post
    Skarmory @Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 SpD
    Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Brave Bird
    - Spikes
    - Whirlwind
    - Roost

    uhmmmmm yeah, i don't think this needs any explanation

    Skarmory loses to Gliscor in a Struggle war. I tested it in a battle and here are the results.

    Spoiler:
    Start of turn 1
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 73 HP! (20% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor's Toxic Orb activated!
    Gliscor was badly poisoned!

    Start of turn 2
    Gliscor used Protect!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 3
    Gliscor used Toxic!
    But it failed!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 73 HP! (20% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 4
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 73 HP! (20% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 5
    Gliscor used Protect!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 6
    Gliscor used Protect!
    But it failed!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 73 HP! (20% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 7
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 72 HP! (20% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 8
    Gliscor used Protect!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 9
    Gliscor used Earthquake!
    It had no effect on the foe's Skarmory!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 72 HP! (20% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 10
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 75 HP! (21% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 11
    Gliscor used Protect!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 12
    Gliscor used Earthquake!
    It had no effect on the foe's Skarmory!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 76 HP! (21% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 13
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 73 HP! (20% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 14
    Gliscor used Protect!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 15
    Gliscor used Protect!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 16
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 67 HP! (19% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 17
    Gliscor used Earthquake!
    It had no effect on the foe's Skarmory!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    A critical hit!
    Gliscor lost 135 HP! (38% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 18
    Gliscor used Protect!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 19
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 72 HP! (20% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 20
    Gliscor used Protect!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 21
    Gliscor used Earthquake!
    It had no effect on the foe's Skarmory!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 69 HP! (19% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 22
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    A critical hit!
    Gliscor lost 136 HP! (38% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 23
    Gliscor used Protect!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 24
    Gliscor used Earthquake!
    It had no effect on the foe's Skarmory!

    The foe's Skarmory used Brave Bird!
    Gliscor lost 73 HP! (20% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 25
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory can't use Whirlwind after the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 26
    Gliscor used Protect!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory used Struggle!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 27
    Gliscor used Protect!
    But it failed!

    The foe's Skarmory used Struggle!
    Gliscor lost 20 HP! (5% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 28
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory can't use Whirlwind after the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 29
    Gliscor used Protect!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory used Struggle!
    Gliscor protected itself!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 30
    Gliscor used Earthquake!
    It had no effect on the foe's Skarmory!

    The foe's Skarmory used Struggle!
    Gliscor lost 19 HP! (5% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 31
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory can't use Whirlwind after the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 32
    Gliscor used Toxic!
    But it failed!

    The foe's Skarmory used Struggle!
    Gliscor lost 22 HP! (6% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 33
    Gliscor used Toxic!
    But it failed!

    The foe's Skarmory used Struggle!
    Gliscor lost 23 HP! (6% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 34
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory can't use Whirlwind after the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 35
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    But it failed!

    The foe's Skarmory used Struggle!
    Gliscor lost 22 HP! (6% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 36
    Gliscor used Toxic!
    But it failed!

    The foe's Skarmory used Struggle!
    Gliscor lost 21 HP! (5% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
    The foe's Skarmory's taunt ended!

    Start of turn 37
    Gliscor used Taunt!
    The foe's Skarmory fell for the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory can't use Roost after the taunt!

    The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

    Start of turn 38
    Gliscor used Toxic!
    But it failed!

    The foe's Skarmory used Struggle!
    Gliscor lost 22 HP! (6% of its health)
    The foe's Skarmory is damaged by recoil!
    The foe's Skarmory fainted!

    Unless Skarmory can get multiple critical hits, it can't KO Gliscor. Once Skarmory is taunted, not even Whirlwind can save it. The battle will go on until Brave Bird runs out of PP and then Gliscor will prevail.

    Octillery (F) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Suction Cups
    EVs: 96 HP / 208 SAtk / 204 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Surf
    - Energy Ball
    - Ice Beam

    Octillery can switch into any of Skarmory's moves including Whirlwind thanks to Suction Cups. It can survive a Brave Bird and OHKO Skarmory in return with a Fire Blast after the recoil damage.

    0 Atk Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Octillery: 136-162 (46.7 - 55.6%)

    Edit: I don't know if Zeffy's set counts or not, but it doesn't matter as Octillery has enough HP EVs to survive an Earthquake from Gliscor.

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    Old December 3rd, 2013 (4:06 PM).
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      Mantine @ Leftovers / Chesto Berry
      Trait: Water Absorb
      248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe (funnily enough puts it one point ahead of 204 Spe Octillery)
      Calm Nature
      - Air Slash
      - Scald
      - Sleep Talk / Mirror Coat
      - Rest

      Octillery versus Mantine:
      Surf: -25--25%
      Energy Ball: 23.1 - 27.3%
      Fire Blast: 13.8 - 16.5%
      Ice Beam: 23.1 - 27.3%

      0 SpA Mantine Air Slash vs. 96 HP / 0 SpD Octillery: 85-102 (26.9 - 32.3%). Flinch it to death, or if you are really impatient, run Mirror Coat.

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      Old December 3rd, 2013 (4:13 PM).
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      Heliolisk:

      -Thunderbolt
      -Volt Switch/U-turn
      -Focus Blast
      -Hidden Power (Ice)/Grass Knot
      Nature: Timid
      EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
      Item: Life Orb/Choice Specs
      Ability: Dry Skin

      Heliolisk switches in to Mantine with impunity, being immune to Scald and resisting Air Slash. It OHKOs Mantine with either Thunderbolt or Volt Switch and has other coverage moves to deal with possible switch-ins.

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      Old December 3rd, 2013 (5:04 PM). Edited December 3rd, 2013 by Nah.
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      -(Mega) Venusaur w/Venusaurite
      Nature: Sassy
      Ability: Chloryphyll----->Thick Fat
      EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 Attack
      Moves: Giga Drain, Earthquake, Synthesis, Protect/Toxic

      Due to the nature and EVs, Venusaur can switch into a Hidden Power Ice from Heliolisk without much fear (and it'd take little from the other attacks). From there, it can mega evolve, giving it the bulk to take little damage from all of Heliolisk's attacks. Afterwards, you simply heal with Giga Drain/Synthesis, or OHKO with Earthquake.

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      Old December 3rd, 2013 (5:53 PM).
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      Mega Charizard w/ Charizardite Y
      4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
      Timid Nature
      Ability: Drought
      ~ Fire Blast
      ~ Flamethrower
      ~ Focus Blast
      ~ Air Slash

      Mega Charizard Y is quite fast, and should be able to outrun Mega Venusaur. It brings out sunlight thanks to Drought, which gives boost to all its fire-type moves. With only about two Fire Blast or three Flamethrower attacks, it should be able to take down Venusaur without any issue.

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      Old December 3rd, 2013 (5:58 PM).
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      Goodra:

      -Draco Meteor
      -Fire Blast/Flamethrower
      -Thunderbolt
      -Focus Blast/Dragon Tail
      Nature: Modest/Quiet
      EVs: 248 HP/8 Def/252 SAtk
      Item: Assault Vest
      Ability: Gooey/Sap Sipper

      With Assault Vest and its monstrous Special Defense, Goodra can shrug off even sun-boosted attacks from Charizard Y and strike back hard with a super effective Thunderbolt or a powerful Draco Meteor. Once Charizard Y is down, Goodra can then make use of sun-boosted Flamethrowers/Fire Blasts against Steels.

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      Old December 3rd, 2013 (6:32 PM).
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      Florges
      Nature: Modest
      EVs: 4 HP/252 SpA/252 SpD
      Item: Life Orb
      Calm Mind
      Moonblast
      Psychic
      HP Fire

      Calcs
      252+ SpA Life Orb Florges Moonblast vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 187-221 (48.8 - 57.7%). Most likely 2HKO.
      252+ SpA Goodra Fire Blast vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Florges: 68-81 (22.8 - 27.1%). 4HKO if lucky.

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      Old December 3rd, 2013 (6:56 PM).
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      Heatran @ Leftovers
      Flash Fire
      252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
      Timid nature
      -Fire Blast
      -Earth Power
      -Hidden Power Ice
      -Taunt

      Heatran takes little from all of Florges' attacks. Fire Blast does 52.6 - 62.4%. Taunt shuts down Calm Mind.

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      Old December 3rd, 2013 (7:31 PM).
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      Quote:
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      Skarmory loses to Gliscor in a Struggle war. I tested it in a battle and here are the results.

      That's a really debatable argument, given that Pokemon is a team effort--unless it's a 1v1. But, touche :x

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      Heatran @ Leftovers
      Flash Fire
      252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
      Timid nature
      -Fire Blast
      -Earth Power
      -Hidden Power Ice
      -Taunt

      Hippowdon @Leftovers
      Trait: Sand Stream
      EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
      Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
      - Earthquake
      - Ice Fang
      - Slack Off
      - Stealth Rock

      252 SpA Heatran Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 174-205 (41.42 - 48.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
      252 SpA Heatran Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 116-138 (27.61 - 32.85%) -- possible 4HKO (HP Ice being at 60 BP)
      252 SpA Heatran Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 136-162 (32.38 - 38.57%) -- 3.66% chance to 3HKO (HP Ice being at 70 BP)
      252 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 87-103 (20.71 - 24.52%) -- possible 6HKO

      ...

      0 Atk Hippowdon Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 456-540 (141.17 - 167.18%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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        Rotom-W @ Choice Scarf
        Trait: (No Ability)
        EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
        Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
        - Volt Switch
        - Hydro Pump
        - Hidden Power [Ice]
        - Trick

        Trick cripples Hippowdon.

        252 SpA Rotom-W Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 272-324 (64.7 - 77.1%)
        252 SpA Rotom-W Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 102-120 (24.2 - 28.5%)

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        Shaymin @ Leftovers
        Trait: Natural Cure
        EVs: 252 HP / 80 SpA / 176 SDef
        Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
        - Earth Power
        - Rest
        - Seed Flare
        - Hidden Power [Fire]

        Owns Rotom-W with Seed Flare and doesn't really mind any of the attacks or being Tricked

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          Dragonite @ Leftovers
          Trait: Multiscale
          EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
          Adamant Nature
          - Dragon Dance
          - Dragon Claw
          - Fire Punch
          - Iron Head

          Dragonite either resists or is immune to all of Shaymin's attacks while either powering up or dealing super effective damage back.

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          Porygon2 @ Eviolite
          Trace (Multiscale)
          252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SAtk
          Modest
          -Thunderbolt
          -Ice Beam
          -Thunder Wave
          -Recover

          Offensive calcs
          252+ SpA Porygon2 Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 186-220 (57.4 - 67.9%)
          252+ SpA Porygon2 Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Dragonite: 372-440 (114.8 - 135.8%)

          Defensive calcs
          252+ Atk Dragonite Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Eviolite Multiscale Porygon2: 54-63 (14.4 - 16.8%)
          252+ Atk Dragonite Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 108-127 (28.8 - 33.9%)

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          Machamp w/ Lum Berry
          Ability: No Guard
          EVs: 240 HP / 248 Atk / 16 SpD / 4 Spe
          Nature: Adamant
          ~ DynamicPunch
          ~ Payback
          ~ Bullet Punch
          ~ Stone Edge

          Machamp's got good Attack stat, and thanks to No Guard, it should be able to land all its moves without worrying about anything. With only about two to three DynamicPunches, Porygon2 would instantly be taken down.

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          Slowbro @ Lefties
          Regenerator
          248 HP / 244 Def / 16 SpA
          Bold nature
          -Scald
          -Psyshock
          -Thunder Wave
          -Slack Off

          Best options against Slowbro are Payback and Stone Edge, which do about 25.9 - 30.5% only. Scald has a nice burn rate to cripple it and Psyshock 2HKO's Machamp.

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            Hydreigon (M) @ Life Orb
            Trait: Levitate
            EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
            Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
            - Draco Meteor
            - Focus Blast
            - Fire Blast
            - Dark Pulse

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            Sylveon @ Lefties
            Cute Charm
            252 HP / 16 SpA / 248 SpD
            Careful nature
            -Calm Mind
            -Moonblast
            -Shadow Ball
            -Wish

            I never really used Sylveon, but I'll just go with this set. Takes little to no damage from Hydreigon, Moonblast OHKOs.

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            Scizor (F) @ Iron Plate
            Trait: Technician
            EVs: 252 HP / 96 Atk / 160 SDef
            Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
            - Swords Dance
            - U-turn
            - Bullet Punch
            - Roost

            Kills Sylveon handily with BP and doesn't take much from its atks, boosted or not.

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            Heatran @ Leftovers
            Flash Fire
            4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
            Timid nature
            -Fire Blast
            -Earth Power
            -Hidden Power Ice
            -Taunt

            Common Heatran set, outspeeds Scizor and proceeds to KO with Fire Blast.

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