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Old June 7th, 2013 (1:26 PM).
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I think Pokecheck, like any other outside influence on the game, will always represent a struggle for power between hackers and those trying to make sure they weren't victims of those hackers. Ultimately, it's a resource that allows people to create fakes and make them look legal. Working hard to breed perfect pokemon also flies out the window when you can just create the parents you need.

I guess I'm just a purist when it comes to all of this. The game was never meant to be played with the use of pokecheck, AR, or RNG. I think anything outside of the game cart itself is a detriment to the way the game is meant to be played.

Just wanted to point out something here. RNG = Random Number Generator and this is what generates the nature, IVs, ability, etc. of every Pokemon you'll ever encounter. RNG Abuse is manipulating the RNG to receive the exact Pokemon you want. RNG occurs within the game itself without any use of external devices.
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The legality checks as well as the ability to check EVs, IVs, and your SID without the use of Action Replay is great.

I don't agree with the constant download of .pkm files, however. Using Pokemon that have already been trained with perfect movesets, IV's, EV's, and natures really takes the fun and challenge out of Pokemon. But then again, people who do that aren't really affecting me personally, so it's none of my business. :P

Yes, being able to check for all that is very handy especially when you're into competitive battling. I also don't agree with the download of .pkm files because then you can download it and use another fake GTS server to get the Pokemon without the ribbon. Although, this is also handy when it's your own Pokemon and you have no other way of getting the Pokemon onto your game cause something happened to your save file :(

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Old June 7th, 2013 (1:39 PM). Edited June 7th, 2013 by tabor62.
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    Just wanted to point out something here. RNG = Random Number Generator and this is what generates the nature, IVs, ability, etc. of every Pokemon you'll ever encounter. RNG Abuse is manipulating the RNG to receive the exact Pokemon you want. RNG occurs within the game itself without any use of external devices.

    Technically there are no external "devices", but there is software used to tell you what frame to look for and such. Without that external assistance, you would have no way of knowing what frame would produce the desired effect. Yes, the algorithm is found in the game, but RNG is essentially backdooring that algorithm and thus playing the game in a way not intended by Nintendo. This cheapens the experience and reward of collecting shiny pokemon for example by making the act of collecting them far easier than intended.

    EDIT: @Mac: My apologies. I was simply defending my honor

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    Old June 7th, 2013 (2:09 PM).
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      Guys, let's not argue the legality of RNG in this topic. This topic is about Pokecheck.org and how it's affected trading -- not is RNG cheating or not. If you want to start that topic, go ahead.

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        Hello I got a pokemon with a small pink head close to his name, and I'm seeing it from the back when I do "resume". What does it mean ?

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          What is Pokecheck? Some of you said it lets you download Pokemon...? How does that even work?

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          What is Pokecheck? Some of you said it lets you download Pokemon...? How does that even work?

          Pokecheck.org allows you to download/upload Pokemon from the website when you change the DNS settings in your console's wifi settings to Pokecheck.org's DNS settings. Once you connect to the GTS in-game, you're actually connecting to the website.

          It's caused me to hold off on some trades because Pokecheck.org is easily accessible. In the grand scheme of things, I would rather trade with my friends and collect their Pokemon rather than download freebies and breed them; I didn't buy the Pokemon games to go play single-player.

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            Pokecheck.org allows you to download/upload Pokemon from the website when you change the DNS settings in your console's wifi settings to Pokecheck.org's DNS settings. Once you connect to the GTS in-game, you're actually connecting to the website.

            It's caused me to hold off on some trades because Pokecheck.org is easily accessible. In the grand scheme of things, I would rather trade with my friends and collect their Pokemon rather than download freebies and breed them; I didn't buy the Pokemon games to go play single-player.

            Hmmmm. Sounds rather dangerous, no? I'd imagine you could easily catch some type of bug/virus that can corrupt your save data or crash your game. You're right, it kinda does defeat the purpose of the game. Which was mainly built around trading with friends or meeting new people to trade with. Has this site been approved by Nintendo? Or does it not matter since it's not breaking any license agreements?

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            Old December 10th, 2013 (6:27 PM).
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            Pokecheck.org is safe to use and there is no viruses associated with it. While it does affect trade negatively there is some good to it. One being you only need one DS to transfer from Gen 4 to Gen 5. Not everyone can afford two DSes so this helps them be able to offer more to trade to others. Also, being able to hack check Pokemon with it is nice and is easily accessible by anyone. Yes there is negative things about Pokecheck but there is good too about it.

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            Old December 10th, 2013 (6:33 PM).
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            Hmmmm. Sounds rather dangerous, no? I'd imagine you could easily catch some type of bug/virus that can corrupt your save data or crash your game. You're right, it kinda does defeat the purpose of the game. Which was mainly built around trading with friends or meeting new people to trade with. Has this site been approved by Nintendo? Or does it not matter since it's not breaking any license agreements?

            tl;dr but I hope this makes sense.

            Not really, DS games aren't able to experience that kind of problem. I can't exactly explain why as I'm not a tech whiz, but DS games can't receive viruses like computers and phones can. While you can download glitchy looking Pokemon, they can't necessarily corrupt your save file. In addition, you download glitchy Pokemon by your own choice as the site has something called a Legality Analysis which outlines things like the trash bytes contained in the name of the Pokemon and the OT and also other hidden variables that can be used to identify its legality.

            But in short, no, you cannot get a virus of any sort, but yes, you can download glitch Pokemon which I assume can turn into Bad Eggs in your save.

            Also while it does defeat the whole original purpose Satoshi Tajiri intended Pokemon for, there are positive uses. As EV has mentioned, you can use it to transfer Pokemon from Gen IV to Gen V with only one DS which is a good thing for people who do not own a second one. Another benefit being hack checking, as I've mentioned, Pokecheck can identify hidden variables that point out its legality.

            Other benefits being able to check your Pokemon's exact IVs, a way to catalog your Pokemon, keep back ups in case you misplace your game. Dunno if I can name anymore than that at the moment.

            And it hasn't been approved by Nintendo for various reasons. One probably being that there are some people who do indeed use it for cheating and thus spoiling the point of the game. But I'd imagine it does follow fair use in some way as it doesn't affect sales of the game from what I know and it the owners and creators don't use it for making money either.

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