Pokémon Polls Express your opinion in straightforward polls and questions about Pokémon that would otherwise fit in Pokémon General if they weren't so, well, straightforward. Vote away!

TrollandToad.com
View Poll Results: Which Protagonist Is The Strongest!?
Red 15 65.22%
Blue/Green/Leaf ( Female ) 1 4.35%
Gold 3 13.04%
Crystal 0 0%
Lyra 0 0%
Brendan 1 4.35%
May 1 4.35%
Lucas 0 0%
Dawn 0 0%
Hilbert 1 4.35%
Hilda 1 4.35%
Nate 0 0%
Rosa 0 0%
Calem 0 0%
Selena 0 0%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Thread Tools
  #1    
Old November 30th, 2013 (7:16 PM). Edited December 10th, 2013 by 大輔.
大輔's Avatar
大輔 大輔 is offline
Adventurer
     
    Join Date: Jun 2009
    Location: United States
    Age: 22
    Gender: Male
    Nature: Modest
    Posts: 270
    Pokemon Colosseum Wes: 1

    Which protagonist stands out to you most? This doesn't necessarily mean he/she is your favorite... this is more about whether or not they are the strongest ( battle wise, contest wise, etc ). Who do you think is the most powerful of them all?
    __________________

    Credit goes to PaperJoey
    BW2 Champions

    ~CHECK MY MUSIC OUT~

    Relevant Advertising!

      #2    
    Old November 30th, 2013 (9:03 PM).
    Sopheria's Avatar
    Sopheria Sopheria is offline
    響け〜 響け!
    • Crystal Tier
     
    Join Date: Nov 2013
    Location: 深き海の彼方
    Gender: Female
    Nature: Modest
    Posts: 4,921
    Is there even any question? Red of course! I'm still training to beat that guy in HeartGold. Red is a true champion. Virtually invincible. Oh, and he has a level 88 Pikachu :O
    __________________
    Paired with Dragon and Koakuma

      #3    
    Old December 1st, 2013 (12:49 AM).
    stars's Avatar
    stars stars is online now
    • Super Moderator
    • Platinum Tier
    • Discord Moderoid
     
    Join Date: Nov 2007
    Location: Skaia
    Gender: Female
    Nature: Naive
    Posts: 28,365
    I've gotta say Red as well. The way he is included and talked about in the G/S/C games just makes him a legend that no one else can match. The original dex holder and pokémon journey trainer. Plus, he trained his Pikachu to high level rather than to evolve it. Now, that's badass!
    __________________
    paired to a seeker
    oh my stars!
    ★ ☆

      #4    
    Old December 1st, 2013 (1:16 AM).
    Brendino's Avatar
    Brendino Brendino is offline
    Good Bye & Good Night
    • Moderator
    • Crystal Tier
    • Social Media
     
    Join Date: Dec 2009
    Nature: Quiet
    Posts: 7,464
    I wanted to say Red as well, but when you think about it, Gold/Crystal/Ethan/Lyra (depending on the game) actually defeat Red later on. On top of that, they've only been trainers for a short period of time compared to the amount of time Red's spent honing his craft on Mt. Silver. Sure, he may not have battled anyone in a while, but I'd think it'd take a pretty special trainer to beat the last three Pokemon League Champions on their own (Red, Blue/Green and Lance). For poll purposes though, I just selected Gold.
    __________________


         
      #5    
    Old December 1st, 2013 (2:33 AM).
    I've Come to Bargain's Avatar
    I've Come to Bargain I've Come to Bargain is offline
    • Silver Tier
     
    Join Date: Jul 2012
    Location: New York, USA
    Posts: 12,008
    May would have to be pretty tough. When I had battled her for the final time at Lilycove City in Emerald, which was able to get through most of my Pokémon pretty easily with Tropius. Brendan was quite hard as well. He was equally as tough. Aside from these two, Red was also very difficult to defeat. His team was well-balanced, and all members complemented each other very nicely. If one was weak against something, the other was able to cover it up. :b Only characters that could possibly be stronger than him are the ones listed above, haha.
    __________________
      #6    
    Old December 1st, 2013 (3:00 AM).
    Sniper's Avatar
    Sniper Sniper is offline
    ふゆかい
       
      Join Date: Nov 2013
      Location: Philippines
      Gender: Male
      Nature: Quiet
      Posts: 1,453
      Well, Red for me. I think he have all the above Pokemon!
      He even caught mewtwo (Well.. in the anime) So Red ftw.
      __________________


        #7    
      Old December 1st, 2013 (3:28 AM).
      Apollo's Avatar
      Apollo Apollo is offline
      怖がらないで
         
        Join Date: May 2012
        Gender: Male
        Nature: Hasty
        Posts: 1,334
        I'm gonna go with RED as well. He not only defeated Team Rocket, but defeated the Pokemon League and basically becoming a legend across two regions. His team is well-balanced, and he completed the Pokedex (but this is the player's choice). Speaking of player's choice, probably the later protagonists would take the cake for strongest protagonists when we're not talking about plot, but the actions of the player. Most people now, when it comes to teams, pick Pokemon with good natures and EV/IV train them and they just make the strongest team so I'd say Generation IV protags (Hilbert, Lucas, Serena, Ethan etc) onwards could be the strongest. But for me, RED is the strongest.

        BRENDAN and MAY come close to RED. They saved the whole world from flooding/landing(??), and they saved the world from Groudon and Kyogre by calling Rayquaza to stop their fight, which is pretty badass if you ask me. They defeated the Elite Four too, which is a plus.
        __________________

        there is no fire like passion
          #8    
        Old December 1st, 2013 (5:34 AM).
        Sopheria's Avatar
        Sopheria Sopheria is offline
        響け〜 響け!
        • Crystal Tier
         
        Join Date: Nov 2013
        Location: 深き海の彼方
        Gender: Female
        Nature: Modest
        Posts: 4,921
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Brendino View Post
        I wanted to say Red as well, but when you think about it, Gold/Crystal/Ethan/Lyra (depending on the game) actually defeat Red later on. On top of that, they've only been trainers for a short period of time compared to the amount of time Red's spent honing his craft on Mt. Silver. Sure, he may not have battled anyone in a while, but I'd think it'd take a pretty special trainer to beat the last three Pokemon League Champions on their own (Red, Blue/Green and Lance). For poll purposes though, I just selected Gold.
        That is an extremely good point, now that you mention it :O
        __________________
        Paired with Dragon and Koakuma

          #9    
        Old December 1st, 2013 (9:01 AM).
        大輔's Avatar
        大輔 大輔 is offline
        Adventurer
           
          Join Date: Jun 2009
          Location: United States
          Age: 22
          Gender: Male
          Nature: Modest
          Posts: 270
          Hmmm, strangely enough I've actually had second thoughts about Red ( which is why I made this poll lol ). For me I think Hilbert/Hilda are stronger protagonists. I mean, Red beat the championship, completed the original pokedex, etc. But in BW the legendaries themselves were attracted to the protagonist and they pretty much did what Red did.
          __________________

          Credit goes to PaperJoey
          BW2 Champions

          ~CHECK MY MUSIC OUT~
            #10    
          Old December 7th, 2013 (12:07 AM).
          The Ruby Of The Sea's Avatar
          The Ruby Of The Sea The Ruby Of The Sea is offline
          On Ice
             
            Join Date: Dec 2013
            Location: Cerulean Pool
            Gender: Female
            Nature: Hasty
            Posts: 96
            Red, for game and manga achievements. He like the others, don't get me wrong they achieved so much too. Anyway, he's always seemed to pull through the impossible, and as shown in G/S and the remakes, he's pretty darn powerful
              #11    
            Old December 7th, 2013 (10:29 AM).
            KorpiklaaniVodka's Avatar
            KorpiklaaniVodka KorpiklaaniVodka is offline
            KID BUU PAWAA
               
              Join Date: Jul 2013
              Location: Eastern Europe
              Age: 19
              Gender: Male
              Nature: Adamant
              Posts: 3,328
              There is no "most powerful protagonist" in my opinion.
              __________________
              PokeCheats | Serebii | AMA | Rock-type Club | Legendary Club #Respect4Rhyperior #Respect4Garbodor #Respect4Tangrowth #FreeGenesect2016 #FreeHoopa-U2016
                #12    
              Old December 7th, 2013 (10:33 AM).
              Outlier's Avatar
              Outlier Outlier is offline
              Goodbye, Grace
                 
                Join Date: Nov 2013
                Gender: Male
                Nature: Lonely
                Posts: 881
                Wes would sick his Espeon on Red while Umbreon sweeps his entire team.
                  #13    
                Old December 7th, 2013 (5:31 PM).
                LilyAnn's Avatar
                LilyAnn LilyAnn is offline
                All your base are belong to us
                • Platinum Tier
                 
                Join Date: Dec 2013
                Location: America
                Gender: Other
                Nature: Bashful
                Posts: 352
                Red. I have never seen a trainer so strong in a game. xD That and no other person was talked about like he was. It was an actual challenge for me to beat him.
                  #14    
                Old December 7th, 2013 (5:45 PM).
                大輔's Avatar
                大輔 大輔 is offline
                Adventurer
                   
                  Join Date: Jun 2009
                  Location: United States
                  Age: 22
                  Gender: Male
                  Nature: Modest
                  Posts: 270
                  Do you guys think that other trainers would be just as strong as Red if they reappeared in another generation?
                  __________________

                  Credit goes to PaperJoey
                  BW2 Champions

                  ~CHECK MY MUSIC OUT~
                    #15    
                  Old December 7th, 2013 (6:18 PM).
                  Varus's Avatar
                  Varus Varus is offline
                     
                    Join Date: Dec 2013
                    Gender: Male
                    Posts: 64
                    Well in Gold/Silver/Crystal you actually beat red sooo... That means red is obviously not the most powerful.
                    __________________
                      #16    
                    Old December 7th, 2013 (7:05 PM).
                    大輔's Avatar
                    大輔 大輔 is offline
                    Adventurer
                       
                      Join Date: Jun 2009
                      Location: United States
                      Age: 22
                      Gender: Male
                      Nature: Modest
                      Posts: 270
                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by Varus View Post
                      Well in Gold/Silver/Crystal you actually beat red sooo... That means red is obviously not the most powerful.
                      I totally agree with you... as Red might have been the original champion, there are plenty of people like Gold who could probably defeat him in battle.
                      __________________

                      Credit goes to PaperJoey
                      BW2 Champions

                      ~CHECK MY MUSIC OUT~
                        #17    
                      Old December 7th, 2013 (7:23 PM).
                      Varus's Avatar
                      Varus Varus is offline
                         
                        Join Date: Dec 2013
                        Gender: Male
                        Posts: 64
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by 大輔 View Post
                        I totally agree with you... as Red might have been the original champion, there are plenty of people like Gold who could probably defeat him in battle.
                        While we're at it, the object of each pokemon game is to become the #1 pokemon master, which is usually accomplished by capturing a legendary pokemon. In this sense I suppose each protagonist of future generations would beat the protagonist of previous generations in a pitched pokemon battle.

                        So right now I suppose the top contestant would be (insert protagonist of x and y here).

                        Who will be dwarfed later on by (insert protagonist of another absurd pokemon game here who managed to capture another absurd legendary pokemon).

                        Thus the cycle will continue, and in doing so, stoking the ego of all the fans.
                        __________________
                          #18    
                        Old December 7th, 2013 (7:28 PM).
                        大輔's Avatar
                        大輔 大輔 is offline
                        Adventurer
                           
                          Join Date: Jun 2009
                          Location: United States
                          Age: 22
                          Gender: Male
                          Nature: Modest
                          Posts: 270
                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by Varus View Post
                          While we're at it, the object of each pokemon game is to become the #1 pokemon master, which is usually accomplished by capturing a legendary pokemon. In this sense I suppose each protagonist of future generations would beat the protagonist of previous generations in a pitched pokemon battle.

                          So right now I suppose the top contestant would be (insert protagonist of x and y here).

                          Who will be dwarfed later on by (insert protagonist of another absurd pokemon game here who managed to capture another absurd legendary pokemon).

                          Thus the cycle will continue, and in doing so, stoking the ego of all the fans.
                          so basically...

                          Pokemon = The perfect child trapping device used since 1996...
                          __________________

                          Credit goes to PaperJoey
                          BW2 Champions

                          ~CHECK MY MUSIC OUT~
                            #19    
                          Old December 7th, 2013 (9:33 PM).
                          Varus's Avatar
                          Varus Varus is offline
                             
                            Join Date: Dec 2013
                            Gender: Male
                            Posts: 64
                            Quote:
                            Originally Posted by 大輔 View Post
                            so basically...

                            Pokemon = The perfect child trapping device used since 1996...
                            Something along those lines, yes, exept it works for more than just children.
                            __________________
                              #20    
                            Old December 10th, 2013 (3:06 AM).
                            WhosAdzer's Avatar
                            WhosAdzer WhosAdzer is offline
                               
                              Join Date: Dec 2013
                              Gender: Male
                              Posts: 16
                              Red is the best! Can't beat the classics :D
                              __________________
                              --> Follow My Twitter - Here
                              ----> Watch My YouTube Channel - Here
                                #21    
                              Old December 10th, 2013 (1:34 PM).
                              SnailCandy's Avatar
                              SnailCandy SnailCandy is offline
                              Bass Dropper
                                 
                                Join Date: Sep 2012
                                Location: Drowning in a Sea of Apathy
                                Gender: Male
                                Nature: Lonely
                                Posts: 61
                                I, unlike most people, think May is the toughest and strongest. I don't know if it's nostalgia talking, but May was the only rival I ever lost to repeatedly. Sure I lost to Red once and lost to Gold a few times, but May kicked my but every single time I fought her and kicked it multiple times before I was able to get a strategy to work. Maybe the AI for that game was better (...Nah...) or I just had bad pokemon, but May was a nightmare for me. Almost worse than Whitney...*shivers*
                                __________________




                                "It takes someone strong to stand up for themselves, yet someone stronger to stand up for others" ~Unknown
                                  #22    
                                Old December 10th, 2013 (3:08 PM).
                                Amore's Avatar
                                Amore Amore is offline
                                • Gold Tier
                                 
                                Join Date: Aug 2009
                                Age: 22
                                Posts: 3,881
                                Hmm...as everyone pointed out, technically you can't put Red as Gold beats him :P. So it's between Gold and Lucas (Who beats Barry, who is stronger than Red was in GSC, but slightly weaker than HGSS Red). Also I agree, May just before Mauville is still one of the toughest battles I ever face. Then she gets weak.
                                __________________
                                "I am Aron Man"
                                  #23    
                                Old December 10th, 2013 (3:27 PM).
                                CelticsPhan's Avatar
                                CelticsPhan CelticsPhan is offline
                                Get Poke'd
                                   
                                  Join Date: Sep 2013
                                  Location: Massachusetts, USA
                                  Age: 20
                                  Gender: Male
                                  Nature: Modest
                                  Posts: 475
                                  If I could make a suggestion, Wes from Pokemon Colosseum seems like the strongest to me. A master of the mysterious Shadow Pokemon, an anti-hero of sorts, and one whose only companion is Rui. That "outcast" figure Wes has gives him that aura of a powerful trainer. And he is- he defeats the evil Team Cipher to save the Orre Region. Just a little more dramatic than getting badges, am I right?

                                  I also think his outfit is best-looking for a male protag. A cool blue overcoat and a Snagging Machine at his side, I'd sure be scared to face him. Despite the fact he's referred to as a kid, Wes looks way older than a 10 year old. I'd say he looks at least 16 at that.
                                  __________________
                                  Go play Pokemon Theta Emerald EX!
                                    #24    
                                  Old December 10th, 2013 (8:03 PM).
                                  大輔's Avatar
                                  大輔 大輔 is offline
                                  Adventurer
                                     
                                    Join Date: Jun 2009
                                    Location: United States
                                    Age: 22
                                    Gender: Male
                                    Nature: Modest
                                    Posts: 270
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by GucciMeme View Post
                                    If I could make a suggestion, Wes from Pokemon Colosseum seems like the strongest to me. A master of the mysterious Shadow Pokemon, an anti-hero of sorts, and one whose only companion is Rui. That "outcast" figure Wes has gives him that aura of a powerful trainer. And he is- he defeats the evil Team Cipher to save the Orre Region. Just a little more dramatic than getting badges, am I right?

                                    I also think his outfit is best-looking for a male protag. A cool blue overcoat and a Snagging Machine at his side, I'd sure be scared to face him. Despite the fact he's referred to as a kid, Wes looks way older than a 10 year old. I'd say he looks at least 16 at that.
                                    Lol, I forgot about the XD/Colosseum series. Awesome I'll put that as a vote underneath in the post :D
                                    __________________

                                    Credit goes to PaperJoey
                                    BW2 Champions

                                    ~CHECK MY MUSIC OUT~
                                     

                                    Quick Reply

                                    Join the conversation!

                                    Create an account to post a reply in this thread, participate in other discussions, and more!

                                    Create a PokéCommunity Account

                                    Sponsored Links
                                    Thread Tools

                                    Posting Rules
                                    You may not post new threads
                                    You may not post replies
                                    You may not post attachments
                                    You may not edit your posts

                                    BB code is On
                                    Smilies are On
                                    [IMG] code is On
                                    HTML code is Off

                                    Forum Jump


                                    All times are GMT -8. The time now is 1:58 AM.