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Old February 24th, 2014 (8:55 AM).
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    Hello everyone! Need some help in regards of team building, item equipping, movesets and what pokémon to use in each team to create good synergy. Just so you all know, I’ve only recently (past month) gotten into competitive battling and training my pokémon to their potential. Feel free to recommend me new pokémon to use!

    These are the pokémon I have EV trained so far:

    Charizard Shiny (F) @ Mega X
    Nature Adamant
    Ability Blaze
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 Defense
    Moveset Flare Blitz / Outrage / Flamethrower / Dragon Dance

    Tyranitar (F) @ ???
    Nature Adamant
    Ability Sand Steam
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
    Moveset Crunch / Dragon Dance / Stone Edge / Earthquake

    Greninja Shiny (M) @ ???
    Nature Timid
    Ability Protean
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Speed / 252 Sp. Attack / 4 HP
    Moveset Dark Pulse / Grass Knot / Ice Beam / Scald

    Dragonite (F) @ ??? <— or Dragon Plate?
    Nature Adamant
    Ability Multiscale
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 Defense
    Moveset Extreme Speed / Dragon Dance / Outrage / Dragon Rush

    Reuniclus Shiny (F) @ Life Orb
    Nature Quiet
    Ability Magic Guard
    6 IV ~ EV 252 HP / 252 Sp. Attack / 4 Defense
    Moveset Trick Room / Psychic / Focus Blast / Shadow Ball

    Togekiss (F) @ ???
    Nature Modest
    Ability Serene Grace
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Sp. Attack / 252 Speed / 4 Defense
    Moveset Air Slash / Roost / Aura Sphere / Toxic

    Togekiss Shiny (F) @ ???
    Nature Modest
    Ability Serene Grace
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Sp. Attack / 252 Speed / 4 Defense
    Moveset Air Slash / Roost / Aura Sphere / Defog

    Charizard (M) @ Mega Y
    Nature Modest
    Ability Blaze
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Sp. Attack / 252 Speed / 4 Defense
    Moveset Flamethrower / Solar Beam / Dragon Pulse / ???

    Typhlosion Shiny (F) @ ??? <— or Rocky Helmet?
    Nature Timid
    Ability Blaze
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Sp. Attack / 252 Speed / 4 Defense
    Moveset Eruption / ??? / ??? / ???

    Garchomp (F) @ Garchompite
    Nature Adamant
    Ability Rough Skin
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
    Moveset Earthquake / Dragon Rush / Rock Slide / Flamethrower

    Latios (M) @ ??? <— or Latiosite when it’s released
    Nature Timid
    Ability Levitate
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Sp. Attack / 252 Speed / 4 Defense
    Moveset Psychic / Recover / Dragon Dance / Surf or Ice Beam

    Ampharos Shiny (F) @ Ampharosite <— possible Dragon Tank?
    Nature Modest
    Ability Plus
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Sp. Attack / 252 HP / 4 Defense
    Moveset Dragon Pulse / Lightscreen / Confuse Ray / Thunder

    Milotic (F) @ ???
    Nature Bold
    Ability Marvel Scale
    6 IV ~ EV 252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 Sp. Defense
    Moveset Ice Beam / Recover / Scald / Toxic

    Mawile Shiny (F) @ Mawalite
    Nature Adamant
    Ability Sheer Force
    6 IV ~ EV 252 HP / 252 Attack / 4 Defense
    Moveset Iron Head / Swords Dance / Sucker Punch / Play Rough

    Manectric (F) @ Manectite
    Nature Timid
    Ability Static
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Sp. Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
    Moveset Thunderbolt / Flamethrower / Volt Switch / Signal Beam

    Arcanine (F) @ ???
    Nature Jolly
    Ability Intimidate
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
    Moveset Extreme Speed / Flare Blitz / Wild Charge / Close Combat

    Blastoise (M) @ ???
    Nature Bold
    Ability Rain Dish
    6 IV ~ EV 252 Sp. Attack / 252 HP / 4 Sp. Defense
    Moveset Rapid Spin / Scald / Dragon Tail / Toxic

    Xatu (F) @ Light Clay
    Nature Timid
    Ability Magic Bounce
    6 IV ~ EV 252 HP / 252 Speed / 4 Defense
    Moveset Future Sight / Wish / Reflect / Light Screen or U Turn

    I’ll be training also a Mew, Blissey, Mega Lucario, Absol, Blaziken and Amaura. Note also that the pokémon who can mega evolve and have @ ??? by their name means that I don’t want to ideally mega them. Thank you!
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    Old February 24th, 2014 (4:35 PM).
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    You have too many Mega Pokemon. You do realize you can only Mega Evolve 1 Pokemon per battle, right? It's better for you to use 1 Mega Pokemon on the team in the end.

    Charizard X should use physical moves only to take better advantage of Tough Claws:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Flare Blitz/Fire Punch
    -Dragon Claw/Outrage
    -Earthquake/Roost/Swords Dance
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Charizardite X
    Ability: Blaze

    or
    -Fire Punch/Earthquake
    -Dragon Tail
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Roost
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 248 HP/84 SDef/176 Spe
    Item: Charizardite X
    Ability: Blaze

    Dragon Dance Tyranitar is only good in its Mega form, since it actually has a better Speed to use with the move. It must also use a Jolly nature as well. However, since your Mega slot is already taken by Charizard, a Rapid Spinner or Defogger is a better fit on the team, to clear away the entry hazards that Charizard is susceptible to:
    Starmie:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Thunderbolt/Psyshock
    -Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Ability: Natural Cure

    or
    -Scald
    -Rapid Spin
    -Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
    -Recover
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    Excadrill:
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide/Iron Head
    -Rapid Spin
    -Swords Dance/Stealth Rock
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Air Balloon/Chople Berry
    Ability: Mold Breaker

    or
    -Earthquake
    -Iron Head
    -Rock Slide
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 120 HP/136 Atk/252 SDef (Adamant) or 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe (Jolly)
    Item: Assault Vest (Adamant)/Choice Scarf (Jolly)
    Ability: Mold Breaker

    Mandibuzz:
    -Foul Play
    -Roost
    -Taunt/Whirlwind
    -Defog/Toxic/Knock Off
    Nature: Bold/Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Overcoat

    Crobat:
    -Brave Bird
    -Defog
    -Roost
    -Taunt/Toxic
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 168 HP/136 Atk/4 SDef/200 Spe
    Item: Black Sludge
    Ability: Infiltrator

    Tentacruel:
    -Scald
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Rapid Spin
    -Toxic/Knock Off
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/224 Def/32 Spe
    Item: Black Sludge
    Ability: Liquid Ooze

    Scald only sees use on defensive Pokemon. Greninja appreciates the greater power that Hydro Pump (and even Surf) have:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam/Dark Pulse
    -Extrasensory/Dark Pulse
    -U-turn/Hidden Power (Grass/Fire)/Grass Knot
    Nature: Naive/Timid
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt
    Ability: Protean

    or
    -Spikes
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -U-turn/Extrasensory
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash

    You already have Charizard X, so I don't think you need Charizard Y at this point.

    Mega Garchomp only sees use on sand teams; outside of sandstorm, Sand Force is useless:
    -Swords Dance
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Fang/Stone Edge
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Lum Berry/Yache Berry

    or
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Fang/Stone Edge/Fire Blast
    -Dragon Claw/Dual Chop
    Nature: Jolly/Naive
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band/Choice Scarf

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Swords Dance/Fire Blast
    Nature: Jolly/Naive
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Lum Berry/Focus Sash

    Dragonite is seriously lacking in coverage here. Dragon Rush is too inaccurate to be worth bothering as a STAB move:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Extreme Speed
    -Earthquake/Fire Punch/Thunder Punch
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 24 HP/252 Atk/232 Spe
    Item: Lum Berry/Weakness Policy
    Ability: Multiscale

    or
    -Outrage
    -Extreme Speed
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Punch/Thunder Punch/Dragon Claw
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Multiscale

    Togekiss is well-known for its para-flinch shenanigans, so paralysis is the preferred status condition for Togekiss to use:
    -Thunder Wave/Nasty Plot
    -Air Slash
    -Dazzling Gleam/Defog/Aura Sphere
    -Roost
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/8 SAtk/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Serene Grace

    or
    -Nasty Plot
    -Dazzling Gleam
    -Air Slash
    -Flamethrower/Aura Sphere/Roost
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Ability: Serene Grace

    I doubt Typhlosion's effectiveness in standard play. Sure, Eruption + Choice Scarf gives it a niche, but that's still not enough. Having Charizard as your Fire Pokemon is enough.

    Mawile should look something like this:
    -Play Rough
    -Sucker Punch
    -Fire Fang/Iron Head/Swords Dance
    -Swords Dance/Substitute
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 132 HP/252 Atk/124 Spe
    Item: Mawilite
    Ability: Intimidate

    Latios has better coverage options to use. Ice Beam is redundant with its Dragon STAB, which Latios lacks. Sure, Fairies are immune to Dragon, but having a Dragon STAB is good. And from what I've read, Mega [email protected] isn't that good, but time will tell:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Psyshock
    -Surf/Hidden Power (Fire)/Earthquake
    -Recover/Defog
    Nature: Timid/Hasty
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Draco Meteor
    -Psyshock
    -Surf/Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Trick/Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

    Ampharos has a better support option in Heal Bell to cure the team of status. Confuse Ray is unreliable, as the opponent can switch to cure the confusion. It also makes a good user of RestTalk:
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Volt Switch
    -Dragon Pulse
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 HP/44 SAtk/192 SDef/20 Spe
    Item: Ampharosite
    Ability: Static

    or
    -Volt Switch
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Focus Blast
    -Thunderbolt/Discharge/Heal Bell
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 236 HP/252 SAtk/20 Spe
    Item: Ampharosite
    Ability: Static

    Even though the Hidden Power nerf hurt Manectric, Hidden Power is still the preferred coverage option for it:
    -Thunderbolt
    -Volt Switch
    -Overheat
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Manectite
    Ability: Lightning Rod

    I also doubt Arcanine's viability. Stick to Charizard.

    Blastoise is only good in its Mega form. For better defensive Rapid Spin/Defog users, see above.

    Xatu isn't that reliable as it was in Gen V. Future Sight is a terrible attack, as it only hits the opponent 2 turns after it's used, and this gives Dark Pokemon plenty of time to switch in and be immune to the attack if it hits. Just stick to Rapid Spin/Defog support, or use Espeon or Mega Absol.

    In the end, here's what a possible team for you should look like:

    * Charizard X (see above set)

    * Rapid Spin/Defog user (see above)

    * Greninja

    * Ferrothorn or Skarmory (provides hazards):

    Ferrothorn:
    -Stealth Rock/Spikes
    -Leech Seed
    -Power Whip/Protect
    -Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/48 Def/208 SDef
    Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell/Rocky Helmet
    Ability: Iron Barbs

    Skarmory:
    -Roost
    -Whirlwind
    -Stealth Rock/Spikes/Brave Bird
    -Defog/Brave Bird
    Nature: Bold/Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef or 252 HP/16 Def/240 SDef
    Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet
    Ability: Sturdy

    or
    -Spikes
    -Roost
    -Whirlwind
    -Taunt/Brave Bird
    Nature: Bold/Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/184 Def/72 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy

    Therian Landorus or Scizor (to form a U-turn core with Greninja):

    Therian Landorus:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Earthquake
    -U-turn
    -Stone Edge/Knock Off/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Adamant/Naughty
    EVs: 248 HP/16 Atk/244 Def
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -U-turn
    -Knock Off/Superpower/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Jolly/Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    Scizor:
    -U-turn
    -Bullet Punch
    -Superpower/Brick Break
    -Pursuit/Knock Off
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Technician

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Bullet Punch
    -U-turn/Bug Bite
    -Roost
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/44 Atk/216 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Technician

    * Dragonite (see above set)
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