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Old March 2nd, 2014 (7:02 AM).
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    My friend is hosting a tournament for X and Y, and I decided to join.
    It'll be filled with casual players and a few more hardcore players.
    I myself am not too hardcore (I want to be, I just got back to the game) and I'd still like to win the tourney.

    This is a 3v3 Tournament, and the only real notable rule is that it's a no Legendary tourney and any Pokemon banned by Smogon will not apply.

    I chose six Pokemon to rotate around, but I need help fixing it up or knowing who to replace:

    Mega Aggron
    Bold
    EV: HP/Def (SpD)
    -Stealth Rock/Rock Polish
    -Iron Head
    -Dragon Tail (Earthquake)
    -Stone Edge

    Mega Kangaskhan
    Adamant
    EV: HP/Atk
    -Fake Out
    -Sucker Punch
    -Power-Up Punch
    -Return

    Rotom-W @ Chesto Berry
    Bold
    EV: HP/SpA (Spe) OR HP/Def (SpA)
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Will-o-wisp
    -Rest

    Thick Fat Mamoswine @ Life Orb
    Adamant
    (Focus Sash if leading)
    EV: Atk/Spe (Def)
    -Earthquake
    -Icicle Crash (Taunt if leading)
    -Ice Shard
    -Stealth Rock

    Mold Breaker Excadrill @ Air
    Adamant
    Balloon/Lefties
    EV: Atk/Spe (Def)
    -Earthquake
    -Rapid Spin
    -Swords Dance
    -Shadow Claw

    Protean Greninja @ Life Orb
    Modest
    EV: SpA/Spe (SpD)
    -Dark Pulse
    -Ice Beam
    -Hydro Pump
    -U-turn

    There is no specific theme to my group, I just want to have it well-rounded and eliminate as much risk as possible (that's why I hate using M-Blaziken, he's too risky for me to use since I am inexperienced.
    Not a big fan of stat modifying moves.
    I'm expecting see a ton of Blazikens, Greninjas, and Sylveons. I'm a bit scared by a few of my friends who have a nasty Noivern and M-Kangaskhan.
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    Old March 2nd, 2014 (2:31 PM).
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    Why are you even using Bold on Mega Aggron? This wastes away its good Attack. It should only stick to defensive roles:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Heavy Slam/Iron Head
    -Thunder Wave/Ice Punch
    -Earthquake/Rock Slide
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/16 Def/240 SDef
    Item: Aggronite
    Ability: Sturdy

    Or
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Heavy Slam/Iron Head
    -Earthquake/Ice Punch
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/16 Def/240 SDef
    Item: Aggronite
    Ability: Sturdy

    I don't think Mamoswine needs Taunt. Its STAB coverage is good so it's better off just attacking the opponent.

    Earthquake already hits non-Gengar Ghosts hard enough so if you didn't teach an Excadrill Iron Head in Gen V, use Rock Slide instead as Ground and Rock have good coverage together.

    I also noticed this team is Fighting-weak. Having a Fighting resist on the team is ideal. I can't think of anything atm since I'm on my phone. I'll come back to this later.
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    For a Fighting resist, you could throw in a Ghost or a Fairy. Aegislash and Slyveon are a couple that come to mind.

    -Sylveon w/Leftovers
    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Pixilate
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Attack, 4 Defense
    Moves: Hyper Voice, Shadow Ball, Calm Mind, Hidden Power Fire/Psyshock

    You can use Cute Charm and Moon Blast in place of Pixilate and Hyper Voice if you can't get one of those.

    or

    -Sylveon w/Leftovers:
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Pixilate/Cute Charm
    EVs: 252 HP, 244 Defense, 12 Sp.Attack
    Moves: Wish, Protect, Hyper Voice/Moon Blast, Heal Bell/Toxic


    -Aegislash w/Leftovers or Lum Berry
    Nature: Adamant/Brave
    Ability: Stance Change
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Swords Dance, Shadow Sneak, King's Shield, Sacred Sword/Iron Head/Gyro Ball

    or

    -Aegislash w/Leftovers or Lum Berry
    Nature: Quiet
    Ability: Stance Change
    EVs: 252 HP, 4 Attack, 252 Sp.Attack
    Moves: King's Shield, Shadow Ball, Shadow Sneak, Iron Head/Sacred Sword

    or

    -Aegislash w/Leftovers or Lum Berry
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: SC
    EVs: 88 HP, 252 Attack, 168 Speed
    Moves: Automotize, Swords Dance, Shadow Claw, Sacred Sword/Iron Head

    And there's some more sets, but this is preobably enough for you.
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      Alright, I made a few changes:
      1) Dropped Greninja. I'm confident in this decision since he's basically a squishier, faster version if Rotom. Ice is already covered, and Dark could be covered by something else easily.
      2) Not sure if Kangaskhan or Pinsir as Megas would fit in more. What do you guys think? I was thinking about it, and I think Kangaskhan would be safer. Regardless, I put the Pinsir's build I had in mind in this, but I'm not dropping my sights on Kangaskhan.
      3) Fixed Aggron as suggested, I like it better than what I thought of. Is it bad to fit a Dragon Tail on him?
      4) Thanks for the Sylveon and Aegislash suggestion. I love the two, but if they're notable enough to be mentioned here, that must mean they're actually viable, so this means a lot to me (Actually, I used both before I took a break from Pokemon, and I probably thought they sucked since I had a horrible choice of moveset compared to what I was suggested).
      Could one say that a Life Orb/Choice Gengar or a Talonflame could fit in as anti-fighting, or are they too offensive for it?

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      Mega Aggron
      Relaxed
      EV: 252 HP/16 Def/240 SDef
      -Stealth Rock
      -Heavy Slam/Iron Head
      -Thunder Wave/Ice Punch (could Dragon Tail fit here?)
      -Earthquake/Rock Slide

      Mega Pinsir
      Adamant
      EV: HP/Atk
      -Swords Dance
      -Earthquake
      -Quick Attack
      -Return

      Rotom-W @ Chesto Berry
      Bold
      EV: HP/SpA (Spe) OR HP/Def (SpA)
      -Volt Switch
      -Hydro Pump
      -Will-o-wisp
      -Rest

      Thick Fat Mamoswine @ Life Orb
      Adamant
      EV: Atk/Spe (Def)
      -Earthquake
      -Icicle Crash
      -Ice Shard
      -Stealth Rock

      Mold Breaker Excadrill @ Air Balloon
      Adamant
      EV: Atk/Spe (Def)
      -Earthquake
      -Rapid Spin
      -Swords Dance
      -Shadow Claw

      Pixilate Sylveon @ Leftovers
      Modest
      EV: HP/SpA (Def)
      -Hyper Beam
      -HP Fire
      -Shadow Ball
      -Calm Mind
      Note: What do you guys think of Wish on Sylveon in this scenario?

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      Currently have a Talonflame, Mawile, Volcarona, and Gliscor sitting in my mind now. You guys think any of these guys would fit in better than something that I already have?
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      You're not taking advantage of Mega Pinsir's good 105 Speed. Investing in bulk is kind of a waste, since Mega Pinsir is bulky enough. Change the nature to Jolly and the EV spread to 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe. Pinsir really appreciates the extra Speed, despite having priority in Quick Attack.
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      Could one say that a Life Orb/Choice Gengar or a Talonflame could fit in as anti-fighting, or are they too offensive for it?
      Gengar and Talonflame work good as well, but you have to be a bit more careful with them because they're kinda frail. Gengar can be killed by moderately strong neutral attacks, while Talonflame has a 4x Rock weakness and recoil damage to deal with.


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      Relaxed
      EV: 252 HP/16 Def/240 SDef
      -Stealth Rock
      -Heavy Slam/Iron Head
      -Thunder Wave/Ice Punch (could Dragon Tail fit here?)
      -Earthquake/Rock Slide
      I've always preferred Roar/Whirlwind to Dragon Tail as a phazing option. Phazes through subs(which annoy the crap outta me) and Fairies. If you want a phazing option on Mega Aggron, you can swap Earthquake/Rock Slide with Roar/Dragon Tail. It loses some coverage, but its worked fairly well for me.

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      Modest
      EV: HP/SpA (Def)
      -Hyper Beam
      -HP Fire
      -Shadow Ball
      -Calm Mind
      Note: What do you guys think of Wish on Sylveon in this scenario?

      1) Don't use Wish on this set. I posted 2 Sylveon sets for a reason; you don't have enough move slots to make a mix of the 2 work, and they perform different functions. The first one is a bulky attacker, the second is a healer/defensive pivot thing.


      2) I said Hyper VOICE, not Hyper BEAM. Hyper Beam is almost always a terrible option on a Pokémon.

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      Currently have a Talonflame, Mawile, Volcarona, and Gliscor sitting in my mind now. You guys think any of these guys would fit in better than something that I already have?
      They're all good pokes, but IDK if you absolutely have to use any of them on this team...
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      Gengar and Talonflame work good as well, but you have to be a bit more careful with them because they're kinda frail. Gengar can be killed by moderately strong neutral attacks, while Talonflame has a 4x Rock weakness and recoil damage to deal with.



      I've always preferred Roar/Whirlwind to Dragon Tail as a phazing option. Phazes through subs(which annoy the crap outta me) and Fairies. If you want a phazing option on Mega Aggron, you can swap Earthquake/Rock Slide with Roar/Dragon Tail. It loses some coverage, but its worked fairly well for me.




      1) Don't use Wish on this set. I posted 2 Sylveon sets for a reason; you don't have enough move slots to make a mix of the 2 work, and they perform different functions. The first one is a bulky attacker, the second is a healer/defensive pivot thing.


      2) I said Hyper VOICE, not Hyper BEAM. Hyper Beam is almost always a terrible option on a Pokémon.


      They're all good pokes, but IDK if you absolutely have to use any of them on this team...
      @Suskei: if you're curious about how to get Hyper Voice Sylveon, here's how: teach an Eevee Hyper Voice in Black 2/White 2 (an Eevee with Anticipation is preferred here), then transfer it over to X/Y with Poke Transfer. Then evolve Eevee into Sylveon.
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        Long time since I've posted on this. Anyways, I've had some time to think about my team, and the tourney begins in 11 days. I've taken into account advice I've received, but at this point I've changed my team a lot.

        Here's my most recent post for help on another website:

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        Hey guys, I'm participating in a relatively competitive tourney, though it's filled with more casual players than competitive.

        I just need some advice. The only rule is no Legendaries, so we're free to use 'mons like Kangaskhan (though, I'll only pull her out if they pull out an equally bullcrap Pokemon).

        My team is very much on the offensive side, but these are my best Pokemon I currently have.
        I tried to cover as many weaknesses and whatnot as possible without losing the Kangaskhan influence.

        Three of the Pokemon I am about to list are incomplete: Azumarill (Evolve, EVs, Item, Level), Gliscor (EVs, Level), Talonflame (Item, Steel Wing)

        Kangaskhan @ Kangaskhanite
        Ability: Scrappy, Nature: Adamant
        EV: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Spe
        -Sucker Punch
        -Return
        -Power-Up Punch
        -Crunch

        Aegislash @ Leftovers
        Ability: Stance Change, Nature: Adamant
        EV: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Speed
        -King's Shield
        -Swords Dance
        -Shadow Sneak (Should I go Shadow Claw?)
        -Sacred Sword

        Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
        Ability: Poison Heal, Nature: Impish
        EV: 244 HP, 252 Def, 12 Speed
        -Protect
        -Toxic
        -Taunt
        -Earthquake

        Azumarill @ Choice Band
        Ability: Huge Power, Nature: Adamant
        EV: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Spe
        -Aqua Jet
        -Aqua Tail
        -Play Rough
        -Superpower

        Talonflame @ Choice Band
        Ability: Gale Wing, Nature: Adamant
        EV: (I forgot, I know for sure there was Atk, and Speed, maybe a bit of HP?)
        -Brave Bird
        -Flare Blitz
        -Steel Wing
        -U-Turn

        Excadrill @ Air Balloon
        Ability: Mold Breaker, Nature: Adamant
        EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
        -Swords Dance
        -Rapid Spin
        -Earthquake
        -Rock Slide

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        I'm a bit worried about Blaziken, so I want Azumarill in no matter what.
        I'm also gonna keep Aegislash for fighting types. Out of all, Aegislash is probably the one I have the most experience with (he's wrecked a LOT).
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          You could always get a Belly Drum Azumarill and a Sitrus Berry. Use it on a mon that it's resistant to, so that they either switch out, or don't hit hard enough to really KO Azumarill.
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            You could always get a Belly Drum Azumarill and a Sitrus Berry. Use it on a mon that it's resistant to, so that they either switch out, or don't hit hard enough to really KO Azumarill.
            Does this sound good then?

            Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
            -Belly Drum
            -Aqua Jet
            -Aqua Tail
            -Play Rough
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            Does this sound good then?

            Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
            -Belly Drum
            -Aqua Jet
            -Aqua Tail
            -Play Rough
            Don't use Aqua Tail; use Waterfall instead. Azumarill can't afford to miss. Jolly with 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe is the ideal spread.

            There's no need for Talonflame to use Steel Wing; it should just switch out against Rock Pokemon it comes up against and teammates should handle them. Instead, I'd use Tailwind in the last slot for a last-ditch effort to support the team.

            Don't use Swords Dance + King's Shield Aegislash. It's too easy to play around:
            -Shadow Ball
            -Shadow Sneak
            -Pursuit/Iron Head/Sacred Sword
            -King's Shield
            Nature: Quiet
            EVs: 244 HP/252 SAtk/12 Spe
            Item: Leftovers

            or
            -Substitute
            -Toxic
            -King's Shield
            -Shadow Ball
            Nature: Modest
            EVs: 244 HP/252 SAtk/12 Spe
            Item: Leftovers

            or
            -Shadow Ball
            -Shadow Sneak
            -Flash Cannon/Sacred Sword
            -Sacred Sword/Pursuit
            Nature: Hasty/Naive
            EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
            Item: Life Orb/Spooky Plate/Spell Tag

            or
            -Swords Dance
            -Shadow Sneak
            -Iron Head/Shadow Claw
            -Sacred Sword/Head Smash
            Nature: Adamant
            EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
            Item: Life Orb
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              I'll take your advice on taking Waterfall.

              I see where you're going with Talonflame, but should I really use Tailwind on him as a Choice Banded set?

              Also, really? I've had a ton of success with my current Aegislash moveset. I've been able to be the one to control the mind game of prediction. King's Shield has done well with getting healed by Leftovers, and it's pretty much GG if I manage to lower the opposing Pokemon's attack since I can easily take more hits for more Swords Dances.
              I've been able to set up +4 and +6 consistently during my recent battles. This set has always been the star of my teams.

              Though, I'd like to try a set you gave me, so I'll check it out.
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              I'll take your advice on taking Waterfall.

              I see where you're going with Talonflame, but should I really use Tailwind on him as a Choice Banded set?

              Also, really? I've had a ton of success with my current Aegislash moveset. I've been able to be the one to control the mind game of prediction. King's Shield has done well with getting healed by Leftovers, and it's pretty much GG if I manage to lower the opposing Pokemon's attack since I can easily take more hits for more Swords Dances.
              I've been able to set up +4 and +6 consistently during my recent battles. This set has always been the star of my teams.

              Though, I'd like to try a set you gave me, so I'll check it out.
              @Talonflame: Generally, yes. Tailwind is meant to be used just before Talonflame goes down.
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                Kangaskhan @ Kangaskhanite
                Ability: Scrappy, Nature: Adamant
                EV: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Spe
                -Sucker Punch
                -Return
                -Power-Up Punch
                -Crunch

                Aegislash @ Leftovers
                Ability: Stance Change, Nature: Adamant
                EV: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Speed
                -King's Shield
                -Swords Dance
                -Shadow Sneak
                -Sacred Sword

                Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
                Ability: Poison Heal, Nature: Impish
                EV: 244 HP, 252 Def, 12 Speed
                -Protect
                -Toxic
                -Taunt
                -Earthquake

                Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
                Ability: Huge Power, Nature: Adamant
                EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
                -Aqua Jet
                -Waterfall
                -Play Rough
                -Belly Drum

                Talonflame @ Choice Band
                Ability: Gale Wing, Nature: Adamant
                EV: (I forgot, I know for sure there was Atk, and Speed, maybe a bit of HP?)
                -Brave Bird
                -Flare Blitz
                -U-Turn
                -Tail Wind

                Excadrill @ Air Balloon
                Ability: Mold Breaker, Nature: Adamant
                EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
                -Swords Dance
                -Rapid Spin
                -Earthquake
                -Rock Slide

                Alright, this is how my team currently looks. If there's any more advice you guys can give me, I'd appreciate it.

                The only advice I'm not going to follow this time around is the advice for Aegislash, even though it's kind of rude of me to disregard any advice.
                I just feel comfortable with my current moveset. I cover enough with it, and I have more control against Sucker Punch and other Aegislash's out there. (Basically, If I know for sure they are gonna King's Shield me or Sucker Punch me, I can SD/KS to avoid that. If I used my KS the turn before, then I'd be locked into having to take that if I didn't have SD. This has saved me plenty of times. I'm mostly scared about the 5 Kangaskhans I expect to see in the tourney).
                Besides, I'm running out of time and don't want to breed a whole new Aegislash (because I'd make one with Sp.Atk and would like to keep my current one).

                Is there any Pokemon that I should replace at all?
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                You may wanna consider using Earthquake (instead of Crunch) on Mega Kangaskhan so it can power through Steel and Rock types.


                I think that Gliscor's EVs are supposed to be 252 HP, 244 Defense, 12 Speed and not 244 HP, 252 Defense, 12 Speed. and Talonflame's EVs are something like 40 HP, 252 Attack, 212 Speed.


                Also....I noticed that you don't have a single special attacking poke on your team. That might be a problem....
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                Kangaskhan @ Kangaskhanite
                Ability: Scrappy, Nature: Adamant
                EV: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Spe
                -Sucker Punch
                -Return
                -Power-Up Punch
                -Crunch

                Aegislash @ Leftovers
                Ability: Stance Change, Nature: Adamant
                EV: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Speed
                -King's Shield
                -Swords Dance
                -Shadow Sneak
                -Sacred Sword

                Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
                Ability: Poison Heal, Nature: Impish
                EV: 244 HP, 252 Def, 12 Speed
                -Protect
                -Toxic
                -Taunt
                -Earthquake

                Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
                Ability: Huge Power, Nature: Adamant
                EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
                -Aqua Jet
                -Waterfall
                -Play Rough
                -Belly Drum

                Talonflame @ Choice Band
                Ability: Gale Wing, Nature: Adamant
                EV: (I forgot, I know for sure there was Atk, and Speed, maybe a bit of HP?)
                -Brave Bird
                -Flare Blitz
                -U-Turn
                -Tail Wind

                Excadrill @ Air Balloon
                Ability: Mold Breaker, Nature: Adamant
                EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
                -Swords Dance
                -Rapid Spin
                -Earthquake
                -Rock Slide

                Alright, this is how my team currently looks. If there's any more advice you guys can give me, I'd appreciate it.

                The only advice I'm not going to follow this time around is the advice for Aegislash, even though it's kind of rude of me to disregard any advice.
                I just feel comfortable with my current moveset. I cover enough with it, and I have more control against Sucker Punch and other Aegislash's out there. (Basically, If I know for sure they are gonna King's Shield me or Sucker Punch me, I can SD/KS to avoid that. If I used my KS the turn before, then I'd be locked into having to take that if I didn't have SD. This has saved me plenty of times. I'm mostly scared about the 5 Kangaskhans I expect to see in the tourney).
                Besides, I'm running out of time and don't want to breed a whole new Aegislash (because I'd make one with Sp.Atk and would like to keep my current one).

                Is there any Pokemon that I should replace at all?
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                You may wanna consider using Earthquake (instead of Crunch) on Mega Kangaskhan so it can power through Steel and Rock types.


                I think that Gliscor's EVs are supposed to be 252 HP, 244 Defense, 12 Speed and not 244 HP, 252 Defense, 12 Speed. and Talonflame's EVs are something like 40 HP, 252 Attack, 212 Speed.


                Also....I noticed that you don't have a single special attacking poke on your team. That might be a problem....
                Going with what Zekrom said here.

                If you want a special attacker, refer to the mixed and Toxic-stall Aegislash sets I posted. As I mentioned before, no one ever uses Swords Dance + King's Shield Aegislash. It was hyped when Aegislash was first revealed, but now people have found ways around it.
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                  Kangaskhan
                  Ability: Scrappy, Nature: Adamant
                  EV: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Spe
                  -Sucker Punch
                  -Return
                  -Power-Up Punch
                  -Earthquake

                  Aegislash @ Life Orb
                  Ability: Stance Change, Nature: Hasty
                  EV: 4 Atk, 252 SAtk, 252 Spe
                  -Shadow Ball
                  -Shadow Sneak
                  -Flash Cannon
                  -Sacred Sword

                  Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
                  Ability: Poison Heal, Nature: Impish
                  EV: 244 HP, 252 Def, 12 Speed
                  -Protect
                  -Toxic
                  -Taunt
                  -Earthquake

                  Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
                  Ability: Huge Power, Nature: Adamant
                  EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
                  -Aqua Jet
                  -Waterfall
                  -Play Rough
                  -Belly Drum

                  Talonflame @ Leftovers
                  Ability: Gale Wing, Nature: Adamant
                  EV: I actually need help here
                  -Brave Bird
                  -Flare Blitz
                  -Roost
                  -Swords Dance (Tail Wind?)

                  Excadrill @ Air Balloon
                  Ability: Mold Breaker, Nature: Adamant
                  EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
                  -Swords Dance
                  -Rapid Spin
                  -Earthquake
                  -Rock Slide (Should I take Shadow Claw to take out Trevenant and Gengar who block my Rapid Spin?)
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                  Alright then, how does this sound?

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                  Kangaskhan
                  Ability: Scrappy, Nature: Adamant
                  EV: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Spe
                  -Sucker Punch
                  -Return
                  -Power-Up Punch
                  -Earthquake

                  Aegislash @ Life Orb
                  Ability: Stance Change, Nature: Hasty
                  EV: 4 Atk, 252 SAtk, 252 Spe
                  -Shadow Ball
                  -Shadow Sneak
                  -Flash Cannon
                  -Sacred Sword

                  Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
                  Ability: Poison Heal, Nature: Impish
                  EV: 244 HP, 252 Def, 12 Speed
                  -Protect
                  -Toxic
                  -Taunt
                  -Earthquake

                  Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
                  Ability: Huge Power, Nature: Adamant
                  EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
                  -Aqua Jet
                  -Waterfall
                  -Play Rough
                  -Belly Drum

                  Talonflame @ Leftovers
                  Ability: Gale Wing, Nature: Adamant
                  EV: I actually need help here
                  -Brave Bird
                  -Flare Blitz
                  -Roost
                  -Swords Dance (Tail Wind?)

                  Excadrill @ Air Balloon
                  Ability: Mold Breaker, Nature: Adamant
                  EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
                  -Swords Dance
                  -Rapid Spin
                  -Earthquake
                  -Rock Slide (Should I take Shadow Claw to take out Trevenant and Gengar who block my Rapid Spin?)
                  See the EV spread I suggested for Gliscor. It needs more Speed to get the jump on Mega Garchomp and opponents slower than that.

                  Jolly > Adamant on BellyJet Azumarill. Outspeeding Scizor and Wash Rotom is very helpful.

                  Use 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe for Talonflame. While Leftovers gives Talonflame some sustainability, Sharp Beak or Sky Plate powers up Brave Bird further. Use Swords Dance in the last slot.
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                    So, I have a question. I see the mixed set Aegislash. I always felt like it should have more EVs into the Mixed Set. Like 100+ in both attack and special attack? That way when you are using pursuit or other moves like that, you deal a little more damage.
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                    So, I have a question. I see the mixed set Aegislash. I always felt like it should have more EVs into the Mixed Set. Like 100+ in both attack and special attack? That way when you are using pursuit or other moves like that, you deal a little more damage.
                    The reason why mixed Aegislash has the first half of its EVs put into Special Attack is because Shadow Ball and Flash Cannon are the main STAB attacks and as a result, Aegislash needs all the power it can get.
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                      The reason why mixed Aegislash has the first half of its EVs put into Special Attack is because Shadow Ball and Flash Cannon are the main STAB attacks and as a result, Aegislash needs all the power it can get.
                      Why no King's Shield? It's a great way to cripple an attacking opponent.
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                      Why no King's Shield? It's a great way to cripple an attacking opponent.
                      Aegislash is reliant on it to go into Shield Forme, which can be taken advantage of. For instance, if you put up King's Shield, the opponent can use Aegislash as setup bait for something like Swords Dance. As a result, some people choose to forgo it entirely to make room for another coverage move.
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                        Aegislash is reliant on it to go into Shield Forme, which can be taken advantage of. For instance, if you put up King's Shield, the opponent can use Aegislash as setup bait for something like Swords Dance. As a result, some people choose to forgo it entirely to make room for another coverage move.
                        I guess that's pretty true, it is predictable. Just sometimes the Kings Shield itself isn't what you want. It's the 1.5x Def.
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                          Alright guys, this is what I have now:

                          ~~~

                          Kangaskhan @ Kagaskhanite
                          Ability: Scrappy, Nature: Adamant
                          EV: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Spe
                          -Sucker Punch
                          -Return
                          -Power-Up Punch
                          -Earthquake

                          Aegislash @ Life Orb
                          Ability: Stance Change, Nature: Hasty
                          EV: 4 Atk, 252 SAtk, 252 Spe
                          -Shadow Ball
                          -Shadow Sneak
                          -Flash Cannon
                          -Sacred Sword

                          Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
                          Ability: Poison Heal, Nature: Impish
                          EV: 252 HP, 244 Def, 12 Speed
                          -Protect
                          -Toxic
                          -Taunt
                          -Earthquake

                          Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
                          Ability: Huge Power, Nature: Jolly
                          EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
                          -Aqua Jet
                          -Waterfall
                          -Play Rough
                          -Belly Drum

                          Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
                          Ability: Gale Wing, Nature: Adamant
                          EV: 40 HP, 252 Atk, 212 Speed
                          -Brave Bird
                          -Flare Blitz
                          -Roost
                          -Swords Dance

                          Excadrill @ Air Balloon
                          Ability: Mold Breaker, Nature: Adamant
                          EV: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
                          -Swords Dance
                          -Rapid Spin
                          -Earthquake
                          -Rock Slide

                          ~~~

                          I was also wondering, if for some reason Kangaskhan was banned last minute on this tournament, who is a solid Mega Evolution replacement for her without changing the rest of my team?
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