Fourth Generation Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum kicked off the fourth generation of Pokémon. Two years later, fans of the Johto region were treated to a remastered adventure in HeartGold & SoulSilver. Discuss the games, explore the features, share your experiences, and help other players out!

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Old June 22nd, 2014 (8:20 PM).
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    Hi all! I'm fairly new around here, and have been reading up on a few threads trying to get caught up.

    I haven't really played a Pokemon game since Diamond and things have sure changed! I am looking into buying a few different games to play, and am really curious - why does HeartGold and SoulSilver seem to be so much more expensive than the other Pokemon games for the DS? They're almost double the price of some games on ebay.

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    Old June 23rd, 2014 (3:37 AM).
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    They may just have been proved more valuable to potential customers over sites like ebay. Less copies of them sold than DPPt (which isn't surprising - pretty much the first games of a gen always sell more, plus it's two games versus three), although when each one sold millions by themselves I'm not sure it's really a major factor. Maybe less people are just willing to sell them, so hence there's less supply for any demand for them, and hence higher price tags.

    With that, it may be just that they are rather highly regarded - they are remakes of older games, came with a bonus pokewalker as well, and generally have more content (two regions = twice the gyms, even if each region by itself is smaller than Sinnoh). And two gens old means they are rarer than the 5th gen games, and rarer still than X&Y (especially considering that the DS is now a previous gen console, and has been for some time - same goes for DS games).

    This is all being said by myself without actually going to check said prices, mind. =p

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    Old June 23rd, 2014 (4:50 AM).
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    I'm just going to squeeze this into the 4th Gen Help Thread! :)

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    Old June 25th, 2014 (2:39 AM).
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      How to find Cresselia?

      I did find the Lunar Wing already, and I even encountered it twice, but nothing shows up on that marking map thingy on the Poketch? Glitch? Wrong app?

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      How to find Cresselia?

      I did find the Lunar Wing already, and I even encountered it twice, but nothing shows up on that marking map thingy on the Poketch? Glitch? Wrong app?

      I think it should appear on the Poketch. Make sure it is indeed the marking map app. If it's not showing up... then perhaps it is a glitch, but the first I would have heard of it.

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      Old June 25th, 2014 (6:04 AM).
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        I think it should appear on the Poketch. Make sure it is indeed the marking map app. If it's not showing up... then perhaps it is a glitch, but the first I would have heard of it.

        Ah never mind, I wasn't moving at all and I guess you're supposed to make few steps for it to show you where roamers are. Thanks

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        Ah never mind, I wasn't moving at all and I guess you're supposed to make few steps for it to show you where roamers are. Thanks :)

        Switching routes shifts their location. If you're looking to catch Cresselia, I'd use Jubilife City and its routes. There's 3 you can make good use of, just keep an eye on the Marking Map and ride a bicycle or something, until they're really close to you.

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          I bought a second hand Japanese Soul silver game and placed it into my DS lite. I had heard from people online that the DS games are region free and that DS lite can play Japanese games. Oddly, my DS cannot recognize the cartridge and so I tried to see if it's a fake game by placing it into my 3ds to see if the Dream radar would unlock any extension. Here's the strange part, my US 3DS recognizes the Japanese cartridge and I can play the game on it. In addition, the dive extension was unlocked in the dream radar, so I'm convinced that it's a genuine game with an unclean slot. But how is this possible? I read from other forums that US 3DS cannot play japanese HGSS since it's region locked as a DSi game. Could someone please clarify this to me?

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          Old June 28th, 2014 (6:21 AM).
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          I honestly don't know why it works - according to the answers I've digged up, it should be region locked due to the US console playing a Japanese game. Has this sort of thing happened before with any foreign games? Or is this a new issue to you?

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            This is the first time that I played a japanese DS game on my US 3DS. Just to let you know, it's not modded in any way. I know that the 3DS is region locked against its own game library but I heard that a few newer DS games were region locked as well, specifically the gen 5 pokemon games. Some people had claimed that the HGSS are also included in the region lock, which is why I'm surprised that I could play it.
            Furthermore, I was able to trade the legendaries from the existing save file of the SS to my US Platinum, and then transfer them to my current X game. I encountered no problem whatsoever during the entire transfer.

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            This is the first time that I played a japanese DS game on my US 3DS. Just to let you know, it's not modded in any way. I know that the 3DS is region locked against its own game library but I heard that a few newer DS games were region locked as well, specifically the gen 5 pokemon games. Some people had claimed that the HGSS are also included in the region lock, which is why I'm surprised that I could play it.
            Furthermore, I was able to trade the legendaries from the existing save file of the SS to my US Platinum, and then transfer them to my current X game. I encountered no problem whatsoever during the entire transfer.

            I've read that a 3DS playing DSi Enhanced games experiences region lock, while normal DS games do not. I don't know if the game's DSI Enhanced, as even Bulba mentions nothing of anything related to the DSi. Mind checking, if you can?

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              I've read that a 3DS playing DSi Enhanced games experiences region lock, while normal DS games do not. I don't know if the game's DSI Enhanced, as even Bulba mentions nothing of anything related to the DSi. Mind checking, if you can?
              Ok, I'm guessing that the HGSS games are not DSi enhanced, since bulbapedia had stated that the gen 5 BW games were the first to make use of the DSi features.

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              Old June 29th, 2014 (12:45 AM).
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              Ok, I'm guessing that the HGSS games are not DSi enhanced, since bulbapedia had stated that the gen 5 BW games were the first to make use of the DSi features.

              There we go~! It seems the games aren't region locked after all. I guess your DS Lite's just having a bad day, then :(

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              Old June 29th, 2014 (1:13 AM).
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                There we go~! It seems the games aren't region locked after all. I guess your DS Lite's just having a bad day, then
                no surprise there, it is a second hand game after all. I tried to clean the connection port of the cartridge but it still wouldn't recognize it . At least I could play it on the 3DS.

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                So I've not had concurrent saves on both Platinum and HeartGold for about 3 years now. I'm considering sending my team over to Diamond and/or Platinum to fight the elite four to gain levels before Red. However I'm worried that when I send them back to Johto I'll lose my awesome Lure, Level, Heavy and Cherish ball icons on four of my Pokémon. Please could someone confirm to me what happens?

                Sorry if there still is a quick questions thread but I can't find it

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                I'm honestly not too sure what happens! I've never really tested it out to see. ;o;

                I'm just going to move this into the 4th Gen Help Thread (Fourth Generation's Quick Question Thread) which you can find at the top of the forum. (It's a sticky! :p)

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                Old July 6th, 2014 (6:40 AM). Edited July 6th, 2014 by BakingBluePotatoe.
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                  So I've not had concurrent saves on both Platinum and HeartGold for about 3 years now. I'm considering sending my team over to Diamond and/or Platinum to fight the elite four to gain levels before Red. However I'm worried that when I send them back to Johto I'll lose my awesome Lure, Level, Heavy and Cherish ball icons on four of my Pokémon. Please could someone confirm to me what happens?

                  Sorry if there still is a quick questions thread but I can't find it

                  I'm pretty sure the Cherish Ball would stay, since it's in both games... I'll go test the other balls right now.

                  EDIT: Tested with a Moon Ball Rapidash. Traded it from SS to Pearl. The ball showed up as a normal Pokeball on Pearl, but upon trading back to SS, the ball was back to being a Moon Ball.
                  SO! Don't worry, all the data is the same, just shown a bit differently between the games.

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                    I'm wondering what is everyone doing to be able to trade with each other without the GTS being up?

                    I have not done trades in a very long time without it and recently I have wanted to play the games and noticed all GTS systems are shutdown besides gen 6.

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                    I'm wondering what is everyone doing to be able to trade with each other without the GTS being up?

                    I have not done trades in a very long time without it and recently I have wanted to play the games and noticed all GTS systems are shutdown besides gen 6.

                    You're not able to trade via wi-fi in fourth generation games anymore, but you could do it by infrared. Meaning, DS-to-DS. If you have two DS systems, then you should be all set!

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                      Owning two DS systems and every game yet really was a smart move on my part. I have no problem, and don't miss the GTS as I can play with myself and even with some friends who still play the older games.

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                      It should be pretty cheap to find a second handheld. I got one for $20, but that was several years ago. An alternative is buying an r4i save dongle. It allows one to back up one's save files. With Pokegen, the user is able to save Pokemon to the desktop or move the files into the pc storage of another Pokemon game. It costs about $15.

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                      You're not able to trade via wi-fi in fourth generation games anymore, but you could do it by infrared. Meaning, DS-to-DS. If you have two DS systems, then you should be all set!

                      Omg I'm just imagining trading long-distance through like a Pony Express of DS systems set up by PC to meet up over and over to trade.

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                      Just going to push this into the 4th Gen Help Thread! :]

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                      I just recently bought a DS lite and am looking forward to playing some of the 4th and 5th gen games. My question is this: I want to play either HG or SS, but which one should I choose? I really don't want to have to buy both atm, just wondering if anyone has an opinion on which would be better to get.

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                      I just recently bought a DS lite and am looking forward to playing some of the 4th and 5th gen games. My question is this: I want to play either HG or SS, but which one should I choose? I really don't want to have to buy both atm, just wondering if anyone has an opinion on which would be better to get.

                      Well, both are essentially the same game but just with differences in what Pokemon are encountered. What you should do is read through the version exclusives list and then choose your game based on the version that has the exclusives you prefer. It's what often decides my main version as well, so yeah it's all up to your personal preference in the end.

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