Counter that Pokémon! SM v.2

5qwerty said:

I have a question: what counts as "hax"?

If I go for Iron Head with Jirachi, I'm statistically more likely to flinch than not (60/40). Would it be fair to assume that NOT flinching is "hax", then?

(Not trying to take anything away from Chase, him posting Jirachi just reminded me of my question)

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If you have to rely on the flinch to actually kill your opponent otherwise your Pokémon faints, it's not a counter.

Victini @ Life Orb
Ability: Victory Star
EVs: 96 Atk / 160 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- V-create
- Bolt Strike
- Glaciate
- Energy Ball

Jirachi would have to flinch three times in order to win. We're not taking into account luck-based strategies anyway.

Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Flare Blitz
- Earthquake

It can tank some of Victini's hits then faint it with an Earthquake.

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Slack Off
- Whirlwind

Tanks hits exceptionally well and can heal any damage taken. EQ is a 2HKO

Araquanid:

-Liquidation
-Leech Life
-Poison Jab
-Toxic
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 188 HP/252 Atk/68 Spe
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Water Bubble

Even with Hippowdon's titanic physical bulk, Araquanid's Liquidation has a good shot of OHKOing it.

Salamence @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Fly
- Outrage
- Earthquake

Can switch in and survive any attack and then OHKO with Z move fly.

Mamoswine @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Icicle Crash
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Stealth Rock

Takes any hit, OHKOs with Ice Shard.

Buzzwole @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 52 HP / 244 Atk / 152 SpD / 60 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Roost
- Hammer Arm
- Poison Jab
- Lunge

It can take any of Mamoswine's moves then threaten it with Hammer Arm.

Drifblim @ Liechi Berry
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 32 Def / 36 SpD / 176 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Acrobatics
- Substitute
- Knock Off
- Will-O-Wisp

Zapdos @Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVS: 248 HP / 240 SDef / 20 Spe
Calm Nature
-Roost
-Thunderbolt
-Heat Wave
-Hidden Power Ice

Rhyperior @ Choice Band
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Ice Punch

HP Ice only does ~ 40%. Stone Edge OHKOs and Ice Punch has a chance to OHKO.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Roost
- Brave Bird
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance

Stalls out Stone Edge w/ Roost.

Magnemite @ Choice Specs
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Flash Cannon

Stunfisk @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Stone Edge

Gliscor @Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 168 SpD / 96 Spe
Careful Nature
-Earthquake
-Knock Off
-Swords Dance
-Roost

Even at +6 Atk Stunfisk will be lucky to score a 2HKO with Stone Edge, not that it will last long enough to get to +6 because it will die to repeated Swords Dance boosted EQ.

Kyurem-Black @ Icium Z
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Ice Beam
- Earth Power
- Fusion Bolt
- Roost

Gliscor can only ko kyurem at +6 by eq and that too if kyub gets hit when it switches in.

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 248 HP / 100 Atk / 144 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Roost

punkysaur said:

Kyurem-Black @ Icium Z
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Ice Beam
- Earth Power
- Fusion Bolt
- Roost

Gliscor can only ko kyurem at +6 by eq and that too if kyub gets hit when it switches in.

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Wouldn't Freeze Shock be the better move to work the Z move off of because it works off of Black Kyurem's better Attack? You can still use Ice Beam as a safe Ice STAB alongside that.

Anyway:
Volcarona

-Quiver Dance
-Fire Blast
-Giga Drain
-Hidden Power (Ground)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Firium Z
Ability: Flame Body

Volcarona resists Scizor's STABs and can potentially burn it with Flame Body; it then KOs with Fire Blast.

Nihilego @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Power Gem
- Sludge Wave
- Hidden Power Fire
- Thunder

Can switch into Volcarona, even HP Ground due to it's excellent special bulk and then outspeed and OHKO with Power Gem.

Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Zen Headbutt
- Bullet Punch
- Earthquake