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Hack Series Pokémon SunGold & Pokémon MoonSilver Page 6

Started by walnut3072 March 29th, 2016 7:22 AM
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Female
Seen July 27th, 2016
Posted July 27th, 2016
2 posts
3.5 Years
I've been playing SunGold and have enjoyed it so far. A few things I've noticed though:
- The move deleter in Cianwood doesn't work for some reason. She tells me she's the move deleter but doesn't even ask if I'd like to delete moves
- The levels of wild pokemon make grinding virtually impossible without xp codes. I'm at lake of rage and the highest pokemon I've encountered is a level 20.
Other than that its a pretty good hack! I like being able to play through 4th gen with fairy types though I wish the type chart wasn't changed.

d4rk

Mad scientist trainer

Male
France (83)
Seen August 9th, 2019
Posted April 21st, 2019
271 posts
7.9 Years
I've been playing SunGold and have enjoyed it so far. A few things I've noticed though:
- The move deleter in Cianwood doesn't work for some reason. She tells me she's the move deleter but doesn't even ask if I'd like to delete moves
- The levels of wild pokemon make grinding virtually impossible without xp codes. I'm at lake of rage and the highest pokemon I've encountered is a level 20.
Oh no!
Maybe I'll wait this to be fixed before playing it, I hate grinding on low level pokemon and I hate to keep Strenght, Cut, and other HMs in my team. Anyways if these moves have been boosted I still can pass, but grinding is meh.

Or I'll use the Exp. points cheating codes as well
I am currently playing Pokemon Y.
I do not own any RoSa game.
Female
Seen July 27th, 2016
Posted July 27th, 2016
2 posts
3.5 Years
Oh no!
Maybe I'll wait this to be fixed before playing it, I hate grinding on low level pokemon and I hate to keep Strenght, Cut, and other HMs in my team. Anyways if these moves have been boosted I still can pass, but grinding is meh.

Or I'll use the Exp. points cheating codes as well
I mean you could always just pokegen the moves off and use XP codes. Or you could try MoonSilver since he kept Drayano's script.

d4rk

Mad scientist trainer

Male
France (83)
Seen August 9th, 2019
Posted April 21st, 2019
271 posts
7.9 Years
Nah I'm giving SunGold a try because I never player HeartGold before and MoonSilver (StormSilver), from what I understand, has an alternate storyline/map design; so it is a good chance to discover HeartGold.
I remember having use XP cheat in Pokemon Glazed when I eventually got bored

Anyways I've spotted some oddities :
- the old man in cherrygrove city. it gives you running shoes but the script states "old rod" before receiving the item; moreover player's mom was supposed to give the running shoes (in the script) but does not
- Magikarp with power-up punch. with which hands?
- Lyra walks with a Marrill but shows a (starter) as lead Pokemon in the "catching pokemon" demo
- Trainer displayed on map has a different skin than trainer displayed on battle. This is a minor oddity but was surprising at first :)

But this is interesting so far. I was happy to cross the way of a Makuhita, I will add it to my team. And later on I'm ditching my Totodile to try some underrated Pokemon =)
I am currently playing Pokemon Y.
I do not own any RoSa game.
Female
Seen August 27th, 2016
Posted August 5th, 2016
8 posts
10.2 Years
Hi, I recently started playing this Hack as an egglocke. Some of the type matchups are confusing but I am making progress...but whats annoying me right now is I have a Magmar and a Seadra I want to evolve. With Dray's hack I just use the item they use for trade evolution and BAM I got my Magmortar and Kingdra but no so for this hack. Please can you tell me how I can get them to evolve?
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d4rk

Mad scientist trainer

Male
France (83)
Seen August 9th, 2019
Posted April 21st, 2019
271 posts
7.9 Years
For the following Pokémon: Clamperl, Dusclops, Electabuzz, Magmar, Onix, Poliwhirl, Porygon, Porygon2, Rhydon, Scyther, Seadra, Slowpoke. Instead of trading them with the necessary item, simply "Use" it from the menu instead like an evolutionary stone.
I found this in the documentation provided with the patch. If the feature does not work then I will have a problem with my Onix as well (if I find one).
I am currently playing Pokemon Y.
I do not own any RoSa game.
Female
Seen August 27th, 2016
Posted August 5th, 2016
8 posts
10.2 Years
I did Pokegen turning them both into a Magmortar and Kingdra but for some weird reason when I restart the game. My game save doesnt load up and its starts up as a new game. I give up! I will just have to wait for a reply from walnut3072.
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Ryoko the level 50 Houndoom!


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Male
Vietnam
Seen May 4th, 2019
Posted September 18th, 2017
39 posts
3.6 Years
As I've said in the first post, SunGold doesn't carry the changes (such as evolution methods, events) from Drayano's hack. Only MoonSilver has all those changes.
That means, in SunGold, some pkm have to be traded to evolve, like in the official games.
Sorry for not saying this more clearly in the first post.

d4rk

Mad scientist trainer

Male
France (83)
Seen August 9th, 2019
Posted April 21st, 2019
271 posts
7.9 Years
It is okay walnut.

I should have read it correctly as well ^^

My team now consists of Masquerain, Geodude, Spearow, Gulpin, Poochyena (lv.22). Next type should be a Fighting-type or a Fairy-type, if I find something suitable. I hope I will find a Snubbull somewhere cause it is so hyped. I just finished 2nd gym. I took the challenge of using UU pokemon that have types I don't use really often (my standard team being Fire, Electric, Water, Grass, Ground, Psy most often). So far I am happy with your Ambrosia move, it is handy with its priority :) not so much to say for the rest of my team, I can't wait to have the other evolved forms ^^

I will hack my Graveler so it can evolve without trade cause I don't know how to proceed (or maybe someone wanna try a trade with me, what do you think Levy_Jxtreme? I play on R4).

I will give MoonSilver a try with more aggressive Pokemon like Charizard or Metagross, but first I want to finish SunGold ;)
I am currently playing Pokemon Y.
I do not own any RoSa game.
Female
Seen February 7th, 2017
Posted September 24th, 2016
12 posts
5 Years
Hey,
I created a patch of Moonsilver with the 6th gen typchart. the rom boots but if this have an error or not idk. you guys need to test it yourself. http://www45.zippyshare.com/v/Bk0Ce5IY/file.html
The ghost type is a bit incorrect actually. Dragons are now resistant to ghost moves and the Dark type loses ots ghost resistance. Overall, great patch. Two changes are easier to remember than many.

RichterSnipes

Weekend Warrior

Age 26
Male
USA
Seen 1 Day Ago
Posted 2 Days Ago
436 posts
7.9 Years
Still waiting....
And you're probably gonna keep waiting.

It seems pretty clear the the OP's hack is meant to add a twist to the base HG/SS experience that makes it fresh for people who've already played through them. The person you quoted is asking for something significantly different from what this hack is offering. But for you to come in and take that request as some sort of confirmation that anyone has intentions to make that happen? To expect someone to make this for you, the poster you quoted, or some other person before anyone else even acknowledges the request in some approving way? That comes off as awfully entitled.

If you want this to happen so badly, how about you not act impatient about others not doing this outside of their own interests and just do it yourself?
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Murkrow

Nasty Plotting

Seen July 13th, 2019
Posted June 2nd, 2019
584 posts
11.7 Years
And you're probably gonna keep waiting.
The person you quoted is asking for something significantly different from what this hack is offering. But for you to come in and take that request as some sort of confirmation that anyone has intentions to make that happen?
someone (GamingAori) has provided a moonsilver patch that retains the vanilla typing chart in the previous page. and people have responded positively to it.
it shows that there is demand for this kind of thing.
maybe you can remember that drayano did provide vanilla patches to go along with his original sacred gold hack?

arguments like "just do it yourself lmao" is stupid. might as well just scrap this entire forum then, no need to share hacks or anything if everyone can do anything themselves. is it wrong to offer suggestions? "still waiting" does not equate to demanding things. especially when the author has seemingly yet to respond to this kind of queries.

also OP quoted..

If you've played this, I'd love to receive your feedbacks and ideas to make the game (or maybe future hacks) better. Don't hesitate to post your comments!
you want feedback? how about making a vanilla patch (just like drayano's) with no modifications to typings/moves other than fairy typing and difficulty raise. but seems like author doesn't even want to acknowledge this. then whats the point of the above quote.

RichterSnipes

Weekend Warrior

Age 26
Male
USA
Seen 1 Day Ago
Posted 2 Days Ago
436 posts
7.9 Years
someone (GamingAori) has provided a moonsilver patch that retains the vanilla typing chart in the previous page. and people have responded positively to it.
it shows that there is demand for this kind of thing.
maybe you can remember that drayano did provide vanilla patches to go along with his original sacred gold hack?
I never said that there wasn't demand for that kind of hack in general. I suggested that there doesn't seem to be demand for it in this thread. It's cool that there's an audience for that kind of thing. This (probably) has no bearing on what the OP will do or wants to do, though.
arguments like "just do it yourself lmao" is stupid. might as well just scrap this entire forum then, no need to share hacks or anything if everyone can do anything themselves. is it wrong to offer suggestions? "still waiting" does not equate to demanding things. especially when the author has seemingly yet to respond to this kind of queries.
You don't seem to understand what the point of the ROM Hacking part of the forum is. It's twofold: Hackers come here to learn, make hacks, and discuss technical aspects of them. The general public comes to play them and share their opinions on them. There is no "make my request happen" part of this forum unless someone specifically makes a thread for that purpose.

I'll admit, when you post something as short and non-specific as "still waiting," that can mean several things. Given this context, though, it's clearly coming from someone who's impatient about something that doesn't even really matter in the grand scheme of things. At best, that poster just wants to know if the OP has any comment on it. In that case, there's much, much better ways to phrase that kind of intention. At worst, it's modern-day entitlement in full force.
you want feedback? how about making a vanilla patch (just like drayano's) with no modifications to typings/moves other than fairy typing and difficulty raise. but seems like author doesn't even want to acknowledge this. then whats the point of the above quote.
It's fine to give feedback and suggestions for a hack. It can help with shaping future releases for the hack. But you eventually reach a point where suggestions go beyond what the hacker wants to do. At the end of the day, hack creators only need to make hacks for one person: themselves. They're likely to take recommendations into consideration, but that doesn't mean that all of them — or any, for that matter — will be implemented.

In this case, though, I have no idea if the last part of your post is in response to me or the OP. If me, then it's because I have no interest to do something like it. That appears to be the same for the OP, but I can't say for sure. If you're directing that at the OP, then your expectations are pretty unbounded, maybe even unreasonable. Keep your expectations in check when giving suggestions.
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Male
Seen September 10th, 2016
Posted September 9th, 2016
6 posts
3.1 Years
I'll admit, when you post something as short and non-specific as "still waiting," that can mean several things. Given this context, though, it's clearly coming from someone who's impatient about something that doesn't even really matter in the grand scheme of things. At best, that poster just wants to know if the OP has any comment on it. In that case, there's much, much better ways to phrase that kind of intention. At worst, it's modern-day entitlement in full force.
Oh gods, why did you think so much? My "still waiting" means I will show respect if anyone make the vanilla version. Walnut's SGMS version is great, but it would be better if there're vanilla version for those who don't want to relearn the type chart.

Btw, I think you really, really need a rest. Take it easy, don't think too much.
Male
Seen September 10th, 2016
Posted September 9th, 2016
6 posts
3.1 Years
As I've said in the first post, SunGold doesn't carry the changes (such as evolution methods, events) from Drayano's hack. Only MoonSilver has all those changes.
That means, in SunGold, some pkm have to be traded to evolve, like in the official games.
Sorry for not saying this more clearly in the first post.
Why don't you make a thread on poke-mega.org? I think it is somewhat weird when you post you hacks on international pokemon community but not our national pokemon community...

Murkrow

Nasty Plotting

Seen July 13th, 2019
Posted June 2nd, 2019
584 posts
11.7 Years
I never said that there wasn't demand for that kind of hack in general. I suggested that there doesn't seem to be demand for it in this thread.
then you didn't read the previous pages.

The general public comes to play them and share their opinions on them. There is no "make my request happen" part of this forum unless someone specifically makes a thread for that purpose.
and what makes you think "share their opinions" is separate from "make my requests happen"?
and its not like the request is completely absurd,insensitive or demanding that require intensive effort or time.
of course if the author doesn't want to do it for some reason then its fine. theres no need to muk on people providing their opinions or suggestions, just because of your subjective opinion of what is acceptable or not.

I'll admit, when you post something as short and non-specific as "still waiting," that can mean several things. Given this context, though, it's clearly coming from someone who's impatient about something that doesn't even really matter in the grand scheme of things. At best, that poster just wants to know if the OP has any comment on it. In that case, there's much, much better ways to phrase that kind of intention. At worst, it's modern-day entitlement in full force
some users are non-native english speakers, so they may come across as abrasive when they really aren't

In this case, though, I have no idea if the last part of your post is in response to me or the OP. If me, then it's because I have no interest to do something like it. That appears to be the same for the OP, but I can't say for sure. If you're directing that at the OP, then your expectations are pretty unbounded, maybe even unreasonable. Keep your expectations in check when giving suggestions.
its for the OP. and refer to the 2nd part of this response.

RichterSnipes

Weekend Warrior

Age 26
Male
USA
Seen 1 Day Ago
Posted 2 Days Ago
436 posts
7.9 Years
then you didn't read the previous pages.
Fair enough. I usually only bother to read the first few pages and the most recent page of a thread. This time I spent some time to read the whole thread, and it's changed my tune...

I stand by my point saying that the OP is free to make the decisions he wants to make with this hack. A more vanilla version is clearly far and away against what he's trying to do here. At the same time, though, any sort of acknowledgment about this repeated request would be reasonable at this point. But he hasn't. In fact, it seems like he's actively dodging the question. He even quoted someone's post mentioning it and didn't bother to directly respond to that part of it. He made statements regarding type changes in his next hack, but he said nothing about an alternate patch for this set of hacks.

I can now see why some people up in this thread are frustrated. Silence is deafening, and it can do more harm than a response that goes against what you may hope for. Some people really need to realize that. Sean Murray, I'm looking at you.

Also, it looks like the new poster I blasted out can type in decent-enough English. I'm guessing you typed out your response before he sent his own out. It seems like that kind of thing happens at all the wrong times. I'd know, I'm very guilty of the same thing. {XD}

As for the rest of your post, different people have different opinions on what's reasonable and what's not. What's sensible in a given instance changes even with slight shifts in context. I can see why this specific request can have people on both sides. I'm obviously on the opposite side of you on this. But none of that matters if the OP isn't going to bother to chime in on his thoughts about it. And it's not like this is truly important in the grand scheme of things.
Oh gods, why did you think so much? My "still waiting" means I will show respect if anyone make the vanilla version. Walnut's SGMS version is great, but it would be better if there're vanilla version for those who don't want to relearn the type chart.

Btw, I think you really, really need a rest. Take it easy, don't think too much.
I'm sorry about that. When you use so few words in a post to put a tone on it, you shouldn't be surprised if someone takes it differently from what you intended. You don't seem to have any ill intent, so I'm sorry. And even if you did mean it in the biting sense that I thought you did, I can see why some people might feel that way.

And I got my rest. That was a rough Friday night for me. I wanted to change my post Saturday morning to be less stern, but I figured it was too late by then.
Why don't you make a thread on poke-mega.org? I think it is somewhat weird when you post you hacks on international pokemon community but not our national pokemon community...
That does seem kind of odd. At the same time, the Vietnamese Pokémon hacking community doesn't seem that active from my glimpse at it. I can't really blame him for focusing primarily here to get some exposure. If he's able to quickly make a version for the guys over at those forums, though, I don't see why he shouldn't.
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