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lugia vs ho oh (who would win this is a vote kinda

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Turtwigtoon said:
How is it unreliable? Please explain!
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Lugia used Waterfall
Ho-Oh got hurt
Ho-Oh used Sacred Fire
Lugia got hurt
Lugia got burned
Lugia's attack halves
Lugia used Waterfall
Ho-Oh was barely scratched
Ho-Oh used Roost

Burn stall

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Lugia is faster than Ho-Oh which means Lugia can knock it out first. With one powerful AncientPower, Ho-Oh bites the dust
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Yeah, except it doesn't. Read my posts.
 
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Can you prove this? No! Also, 50percent chance of burn is half. out of 5 moves, 2 or 3 will burn. Also, even if still burnt, Lugia might do a lot of damage with waterfall! You can't tell so this argument could go both ways. (I still think Lugia cos of Ancientpower!)
 

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Can you prove this? No! Also, 50percent chance of burn is half. out of 5 moves, 2 or 3 will burn. Also, even if still burnt, Lugia might do a lot of damage with waterfall! You can't tell so this argument could go both ways. (I still think Lugia cos of Ancientpower!)
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No...Stop, you are making no sense. I know Waterfall will do little after a burn because I know how to play in the competative Pokemon Metagame. I SEE burned foes who would usually 2HKO make a measly 4HKO. And Ho-Oh has Base 154 SpD, Lugia cannot even muster a Base 100 SpA.
 
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So? Your also forgetting about Lugia's Def and Sp. Def. Sp. Def on Lugia is quite hight, so Sacred Fire wouldn't do that much on Lugia than you were saying. Can we stop this argument as it can go either way, Both could win. I'm just saying that I think Lugia can win, and proving why I think why, not that Lugia will win for sure. All right?
 

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So? Your also forgetting about Lugia's Def and Sp. Def. Sp. Def on Lugia is quite hight, so Sacred Fire wouldn't do that much on Lugia than you were saying. Can we stop this argument as it can go either way, Both could win. I'm just saying that I think Lugia can win, and proving why I think why, not that Lugia will win for sure. All right?
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Lugia cannot stop Burn from eating away at it's HP, but fine. We'll cease this argument.
 

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Lugia's Sp Def is quite good, isn't it? Sacred Fire wouldn't do as much as you said. Anyway I'm only saying what I think, not what may happen. Who knows, Lugia might win, Ho-oh might win. I'm saying my opinion and just trying to back my opinion up. Doesn't mean that Lugia will win, for all we know.
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Sacred Fire is a physical fire move. This shows me your lack of knowledge on basic metagame elements.
 
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Vance said:
Lugia cannot stop Burn from eating away at it's HP.
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Well it can but with an item or a berry. So i didn't know Sacred Fire was a Physical Move. Only 1 or 2 Pokemon know it. Anyway, it still wouldn't do as much as you said it would. Anyway, argument over as it could go either way.
 
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Who uses a Focus Sash on a Ratatta? People with strategies and who know of other peoples tactics
 

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Vendak said:
Your both fanboys its not that important stop bickering about it
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Why would you come into the middle of an argument with your retarded post, completely off topic? You disgrace everyone.

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Who uses a Focus Sash on a Ratatta? People with strategies and who know of other peoples tactics
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Morons? FEAR is an overrated, easy to counter tactic.
 
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Just proving a point. You gave away that Ho-Oh could burn Lugia, and that's one of the only ways to stop burns.

Can we just stop arguing and posting on this thread? I don't give up, I'm just getting annoyed with you and your belief of what I'm saying will not happen and your always right. Don't argue with me Vance, as I will now not argue back.
 
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Turtwigtoon said:
Just proving a point. You gave away that Ho-Oh could burn Lugia, and that's one of the only ways to stop burns.

Can we just stop arguing and posting on this thread? I don't give up, I'm just getting annoyed with you and your belief of what I'm saying will not happen and your always right. Don't argue with me Vance, as I will now not argue back.
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Huh? What the fack? He didn't say anywhere he was always right. |D
 

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Ok well I'm not trying to get in an argument about this, but I think it would be a close battle. If I had to choose I would choose Lugia, but thats just basing it on type and certain moves like ancient power. But yea to close to tell.
 

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No...Stop, you are making no sense. I know Waterfall will do little after a burn because I know how to play in the competative Pokemon Metagame. I SEE burned foes who would usually 2HKO make a measly 4HKO. And Ho-Oh has Base 154 SpD, Lugia cannot even muster a Base 100 SpA.
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And Sacred Fire is only 1x effective against Lugia, and Lugia also has 130 base Def, as well as base 154 SpD. Let Lugia do an Ancientpower to start (with higher speed to boot) and it won't OHKO, but it'll be darn close with a 4x weakness, even with that SpD. Lugia can wall the crap out of Ho-Oh with base 130 Def and base 154 SpD, and don't forget it can Thunder Wave.

Remember, we're talking hypothetical, so you have to throw norms out the window. If we're crafting each one to fight the other, I'll go with Lugia with Waterfall, Ancientpower (or maybe even HP Rock if we're building it solely to beat Ho-Oh), Thunderwave, and Roost.
 

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YOOM-TAH said:
And Sacred Fire is only 1x effective against Lugia, and Lugia also has 130 base Def, as well as base 154 SpD. Let Lugia do an Ancientpower to start (with higher speed to boot) and it won't OHKO, but it'll be darn close with a 4x weakness, even with that SpD. Lugia can wall the crap out of Ho-Oh with base 130 Def and base 154 SpD, and don't forget it can Thunder Wave.

Remember, we're talking hypothetical, so you have to throw norms out the window. If we're crafting each one to fight the other, I'll go with Lugia with Waterfall, Ancientpower (or maybe even HP Rock if we're building it solely to beat Ho-Oh), Thunderwave, and Roost.
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1x Effective means nothing. It has STAB, and burn chance.

Waterfall...Read my post, BURN HALVES ATTACK. Ancientpower coming off a base 90 attack...Would that even OHKO?
 
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