The Rainbow Connection [LGBTS Club]

Scarf said:

If anything I think it's teaching a morally ambiguous lesson: love someone despite their "sins". Not "accept someone who's different" although I can see there's something of that message in there, but it's kind of weakly stated, especially with lines like this mucking things up:

Now, I know he's trying to be more readable to those religious blockheads filled with hate, but they're going to read something like this and think he's saying "love the sinner, hate the sin" or some such similar garbage. It's an apology piece.

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I think this is the point: they're really not. Christians often spout this party line of "love the sinner, hate the sin" when really they hate the "sinner" because of the "sin". Now, you and I and any person with half a brain knows that we are neither sinners nor sinning, but the point is that if the religious blockheads think that now, they're always going to think that and not much is going to change their minds. So if they can at least learn tolerance and learn to actually love the sinner instead of just claiming to, then the world would be far better.

It's not really good enough for me either, to be honest. I'd love nothing more than to smack sense into each and every one of them, but realistically if you can't change their minds, you can at least aim to change their attitudes using the God they claim to follow.

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OK so on the naming front, here are the suggestions:

Rainbow Pride Group
LGBT and Friends
LGBT and Supporters
Sexual Equality Alliance (what you did there. I see it.)
The Queer Club
The Rainbow Connection

I crossed out the one I'm veto-ing straight away. I want this to be sort of a community decision, but I agree that Queer still has negative connotations (and also it just sounds bad as a word lol)

Personally, I have two favourites so far:

1) Sexual Equality Alliance because I love the whole S.E.A Men and Women thing, I think that's really cute - but at the same time SEA makes us sound like a lobby group rather than a social/discussion group.

2) The Rainbow Connection - it just rolls right off the tongue and is generally awesome and amazing... though I have to wonder whether without listing mentioning something specifically and directly related to LGBT, new members are going to click and find us?

Unless we did something like "The Rainbow Connection [LGBT Club]" - I really like the idea of that. Thoughts?

Also if you have more suggestions keep sending them through lol - though the more I type the more I fall in love with that one :P

Ineffable~ said:

. . . Guys I'm so confused. I can't tell if anyone is serious about these insane names. xD

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I am.

I like The Rainbow Connection and the puns. :3 Hehe, semen, hehehe, ****s.
Also I still love our really long name.

In relation to the club's name, I really like The Rainbow Connection, however if we end up being S.E.A men and women there will be no complaint on my part.

Do you desire to date someone who is more masculine/feminine or submissive/dominant than you?

I prefer if they are more femminine. I know that sounds rather shallow but I exclusively like girls so I want to feel like I'm actually dating a girl (obvious statement is obvious).

Shining Raichu said:

I think this is the point: they're really not. Christians often spout this party line of "love the sinner, hate the sin" when really they hate the "sinner" because of the "sin". Now, you and I and any person with half a brain knows that we are neither sinners nor sinning, but the point is that if the religious blockheads think that now, they're always going to think that and not much is going to change their minds. So if they can at least learn tolerance and learn to actually love the sinner instead of just claiming to, then the world would be far better.

It's not really good enough for me either, to be honest. I'd love nothing more than to smack sense into each and every one of them, but realistically if you can't change their minds, you can at least aim to change their attitudes using the God they claim to follow.

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I know that it's pragmatic to do things that way too. I just... hate having to give in like that. I hate the feeling that I'd be justifying their views and in some way caving to them.

Also, if we end up with the word 'pride' in our new name it should totally stand for something like "People Respecting Individual Differences and Equality." And would something like "Diversity Club" fly? It's not that specific, but it's short and still appropriate, I think.

Dude, we gotta go with Rainbow Pride Group. RPGs are the best. lol

Definitely not sea.

I haven't been here in ages. In fact, I see I was one of the first people to join this place way back when Glad to see it's still going strong!

Do you desire to date someone who is more masculine/feminine?
Interesting question, as I don't usually think about it with those terms all that often. However, I'm definitely more interested in masculine guys, though I wouldn't shut a guy down just for being more effeminate.

And on the topic of acronyms...how about U.G.I.S.H., aka Union of Gender Identities and Sexualities in Humans.

Do you desire to date someone who is more masculine/feminine?
Well, in looks, I would want them to be more feminine, but in personality I'd want them to be masculine. That applies for both genders.

People Respecting Individual Differences and Equality sounds too politically motivated and biased, imo.

Rainbow Pride kind of leaves out the non-LGBT members. Maybe add "and Friends" or "and Supporters" so they don't feel excluded.

Here's a novel idea: Let's just keep the name the way it is now.

Pikapal642 said:

Do you desire to date someone who is more masculine/feminine?

Personally, I would rather date a more masculine guy, as that is what is attractive to me. :P But I wouldn't like, refuse to date an effeminate man, it's just that if I had a choice, I would most likely go with the masculine guy. xD

EDIT: Gah, I just realized that sounds bad, lol. I don't mean I would only date effeminate guys if I was forced to, I just mean, like, masculine guys are just more my type, I suppose. xD -is trying really hard to to offend anyone- xD

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It doesn't sound bad at all. There's no need to apologise lol, the whole point of this place is that you don't have to be sorry for who you're attracted to. If masculine guys are your thing, then they're your thing!

As it happens, they're also mine. I'm not really attracted to effeminate men, that's just how it is. But having said that, I also wouldn't want an overly-masculine guy either. I'd like someone who is more or less equal to my level of masculinity. I consider myself masculine, but in a sort of refined way lol - that's the sort of guy I'd like.

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As for naming, I'm kind of trying to get away from the whole acronym genre at the moment, we just need something simple and unpolitical that represents us. At the moment The Rainbow Connection and Rainbow Pride Group are the two stand-outs, but I'm not sure I like the word 'pride'.

"Gay pride" has always rubbed me the wrong way. I like being gay and I'm more than happy to be gay, and I will defend that to the death, but to be 'proud' implies that being gay is something I've accomplished, and it's not. It's like saying "I'm proud to be white" or "I'm proud to be left-handed" - it's not something I had any measure of control over, so why be proud of it?

FreakyLocz14 said:

Here's a novel idea: Let's just keep the name the way it is now.

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No.

I might be really really dense here, but I can't for the life of me figure out what this 3-letter word is :/ - if it's not something you're comfortable saying in the thread, post-comment it to me lol

Anyway, I would say he is having his own issues with his sexuality that he needs to come to terms with. I'd just leave it alone for now. The only other option I could think of is that he was a bully, trolling you... though if you consider him a friend then that probably wasn't it. It is curious though - you should keep the notes and show him if he tries to deny what he said to you.

Shining Raichu said:

I might be really really dense here, but I can't for the life of me figure out what this 3-letter word is :/ - if it's not something you're comfortable saying in the thread, post-comment it to me lol

Anyway, I would say he is having his own issues with his sexuality that he needs to come to terms with. I'd just leave it alone for now. The only other option I could think of is that he was a bully, trolling you... though if you consider him a friend then that probably wasn't it. It is curious though - you should keep the notes and show him if he tries to deny what he said to you.

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SEX

Impo said:

3 letter word... ?
Pie?

in all serious, I think we should change the club name to the funniest acronym we can make.

Lively
Original
Village
Elders
Making
Use
For
Flotilla
In
New
Sexualities

well, I tried my best

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Haha, lovemuffins would be an awesome name. I don't think we have any village elders around here though. :P

Really
Awesome
Individuals
Chilling
with
Happy
Undead

Or maybe.

Queers
Using
Infinite
Lucky
Axes
Viciously
Always

Lol, okay, but seriously, I still say something simple like gsa, or lgbt club would be best.

My first thought for a "three letter word" started with "a" and ended with "s". lol

But it does sound like he wants to keep things secret for now and doesn't want to have other people know. That sounds more like denial than confusion to me. All the second-hand stories I know from my gay friends tell me that he's probably from a very "straight" household/background and he can't get past that. So it probably wouldn't do to confront him about it and he'll come to terms with it eventually.

Oh, sex! LMAO how could I have been so dense! That was like the most obvious thing ever! I think my problem was that I was thinking of... shall we say, 4-letter equivalents :P

QuilavaKing said:

Lol, okay, but seriously, I still say something simple like gsa, or lgbt club would be best

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I completely agree, and I would do that immediately except if I remember correctly, the reason this current stupid club name came into effect in the first place was because people were getting upset that their own specific sexualities were not being represented in the title. So if I can get some assurance that people aren't gonna lose their **** at me, that's what I'll do lol

I won't flip my... pancakes... if we have to be a boring ol' "LGBT Club" but I still wish there were a way we could include everyone without having to be the alphabet soup club. 'Cuz, you know, some people don't totally identify as "gay" or whatnot.

Sorry. I don't mean to keep beating this issue to death.

If you want to include everyone in the name, just call it the "Human Equality Club" or something of the like. That way we'll only have to change it upon making contact with extraterrestrials and allowing them access to our world wide web. XD

"Rainbow Butterflies" seems interesting as well. It may be just me, but I tend to associate rainbows with [insert anything except hetero-]sexual pride, and butterflies with transgender imagery. Hence my merging of the two into one name.