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The American Politics Discussion Thread

Guest123_x1

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I have been getting tired of this election season and can't wait for it to be over, but at the same time worry about the outcome.
What good has Obama done to America, other than:
  • Cause food and energy prices to skyrocket, doing nothing to combat the rampant speculation on the commodity exchanges like he said he would do during his 2008 campaign?
  • Enact a health insurance mandate that is really about helping boost insurance company profits?
  • Ram through a financial "reform" package that is so watered-down, that it escalated, rather than abated, Wall Street greed and recklessness, and allowed our already too-large megabanks to get even larger, when such institutions should have been broken up, like Ma Bell was in '83?
  • Continued our utterly ridiculous open-borders policy that allows illegal immigrants and terrorists to enter our country unabated?
  • Passed even more unfair NAFTA-style trade agreements, even though he said he opposed them during his 2008 campaign?
  • Threatened huge tax increases on the middle class and poor with schemes such as Cap-and-Trade and his strangulation of the energy industry, while still allowing mega-corporations like Verizon to spin off parts of their operations without paying any taxes? (I was one of the millions of Verizon rural landline customers divested to Frontier Communications using tax-dodging techniques, and I'm sure those of you in Northern New England know how a similar deal with FairPoint turned out.)
  • Continue Bush's warmongering, despite promising to end the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq?
What will Mitt Romney do to make things better?
On the first question, I have expected many of the things I listed above to happen under Obama the moment he was elected. On the second, Mitt likely won't be that much different from Obama-I expect he may continue many of Obama's policies, just as Obama continued (and escalated) many of Bush's policies.

Most of the campaign advertising on broadcast outlets in Michigan have been over the six statewide proposals, five of which are to amend the state Constitution. The official ballot language and my commentaries for each are included in the spoiler (which I used to reduce the post length).

Here's how I plan on voting, aside from the Presidency and U.S. Senate for Michigan:
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FreakyLocz14

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THE FIRST ELECTION RETURNS ARE IN!!!

Dixville Noth, New Hampshire
Barack Obama: 5 votes
Mitt Romney: 5 votes

I'm still looking to see if there's any news out of Hart's Location, yet.

UPDATE:
Hart's Location, New Hampshire
Barack Obama: 23 votes
Mitt Romney: 9 votes
Gary Johnson: 2 votes
 
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We're talking a lot about the Presidential race, but control of Congress will also be determined tomorrow night.

It looks like the Republicans will keep the House, but the Senate is unpredictable. While the Republicans looked set to take back the Senate a year ago, a number of gaffes by GOP Senatorial candidates has renewed hope for the Democrats. A 50-50 Senate is likely. Add the fact that Maine will likely elect a Senator who is not a Democrat or a Republican, and things get even more unpredictable.
In that case, should Obama win, looks like nothing will be accomplished.

Similarly in the unlikely reverse of Romney win but Democrat controlled House and Senate. The Democrats have pledged similarly.

You win everything or nothing happens. They should all lose their jobs
 
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I went and voted about an hour ago at my local voting place in town. I mentioned in an earlier post that I registered to vote for this year's election. I gave my vote to Obama-Biden since my Mom would kill me if I voted for Romney, whom she hates with a passion.

We also had a major Senate race in my state with Scott Brown and Elizabeth Warren. I went for Scott Brown because unlike Warren, he would compromise with the other side on things.

In all fairness, if Obama or Romney win, they'll never get anything done if the House and Senate remain where they are. Status Quo election.
 

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I voted straight democrat in Wisconsin. I know Romney isn't a traditional Republican and rarely catered to the religious right, however, the fact he catered at all while the evangelicals ignored the fact he's Mormon and largely socially liberal is disheartening. I support gay marriage, equal rights for women, and socialized healthcare (we need to stop acting like a third world country), Obama got my vote
 

TRIFORCE89

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I know Romney isn't a traditional Republican and rarely catered to the religious right, however, the fact he catered at all while the evangelicals ignored the fact he's Mormon and largely socially liberal is disheartening.
If he didn't, there would be no way that he'd be the nominee right now. Which is sad, but them's the rules.
 
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Going to start sharing this graphic from another forum I go to.

First states are called (predictably)...


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WV and SC called. No surprises.

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GA called.

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AR goes Mittens.

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Oryx

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Oh my god never stop sharing these Netto
 

Aeon.

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...forget NBC, I'll watch the Shrine Maiden version of the race instead. I'm loving these.
 

Oryx

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By the way what sources are you using to look at electoral votes? Between Tom and I we have like 5 different sources and they all say different things haha.
 

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While Obama has been declared winner in Michigan, 51 to 47%, and Stabenow also declared winner for her U.S. Senate reelection race in a landslide, the nationwide popular vote is, as I'm writing this 27.1 million for Romney, 25.8 for Obama, and around 716,000 for the minor party candidates. (from WXYZ-TV Detroit's web site)

As for the Michigan state proposals: with 15% of precincts reporting, Proposal 1 (the Emergency Financial Manager referendum) appears to be passing, while the other five (collective bargaining, renewable energy, home care, supermajority tax increase requirement, the border-crossing bridge proposal) appear on their way to defeat. However, I'm expecting the results for these to invert (Prop 1 failing, the others all passing) later in the night. (results from WJBK-TV Detroit's web site).
 
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AZ (finally) goes Mitt.

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Obama take MN

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MO goes Mitt

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Elisabeth Warren is giving her Victory speech now. Good stuff. Also Virginia's Tim Kane won the VA senate race according to MSNBC projections.

Mitt takes ID and NC, Obama takes CA, HI, and WA

Obama nears the finish line...

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Ohio goes to Obama, Obama wins re-election!

The map:

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I'm mixed about Obama winning. I am firmly against the Obamacare mandate that you have to have Health Insurance by 2014 or you'll be punished monetary. That's like pointing a gun to my head and forcing me to pay for something I don't use at all.

I'm also disappointed that Scott Brown lost to Elizabeth Warren. I fear that Warren will be very partisan and not compromise. At least Scott Brown did something with the Democrats. We're screwed.
 
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Oh, didn't see this thread.

Thank you Ohio (as well as the other states that contributed). <3 Much love.

Shame Obama didn't win popular vote but there's votes still being counted.
 
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