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Old September 8th, 2011 (8:42 PM). Edited September 12th, 2011 by Latios Master.
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    I decided to take ideas from my two previous teams and combine them for a new team. I named the team Innistrad because several members of the team remind me of the new set of cards coming out for Magic: The Gathering. I didn't think of that until the team was already together.


    #392 Infernape: Fire/Fighting, Jolly, Blaze, Item: Choice Band
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Mach Punch
    Close Combat
    Flare Blitz
    U-Turn

    Replaces Whimsicott.


    #094 Gengar: Ghost/Poison, Timid, Levitate, Item: Leftovers
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Shadow Ball
    Hidden Power [Fire]
    Focus Blast
    Substitute

    Replaces Chandelure.


    #121 Starmie: Water/Psychic, Timid, Natural Cure, Item: Leftovers
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Rapid Spin
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Surf

    Rapid Spin is crucial to help teammates use U-Turn and Volt Switch safely. The other moves help cover some weaknesses of the team. I used to have Recover but was told to remove it.


    #462 Magnezone: Electric/Steel, Timid, Magnet Pull, Item: Choice Scarf
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Hidden Power [Fire]
    Thunderbolt
    Volt Switch
    Flash Cannon

    A good Steel-killer with Magnet Pull and HP Fire. The rest have STAB, and Volt Switch is the Electric version of U-Turn. I had to choose between Magnezone and Scizor from my previous team.


    #479 Rotom-W: Electric/Water, Timid, Levitate, Item: Choice Specs
    EVs: 252 SpA / 6 SpD / 252 Spe
    Trick
    Hidden Power [Ice]
    Volt Switch
    Hydro Pump


    #612 Haxorus: Dragon, Jolly, Mold Breaker, Item: Choice Band
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Dual Chop
    Outrage
    Earthquake
    Brick Break

    Outrage and Dual Chop have STAB, and Dual Chop can help against Substitute.

    I currently have 2 weaknesses to Grass, Ground, Psychic, Ghost, and Dark.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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    Old September 8th, 2011 (9:25 PM).
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    I understand why you have Energy Ball for 3 of Chandelure's weaknesses, but Hidden Power (Fighting) is the best bet for a Calm Mind set, considering that Hydreigon and Heatran resists Chandelure's current set. Energy Ball could be better off in a Choice set, though.

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    Old September 9th, 2011 (9:55 AM). Edited September 9th, 2011 by Folly~.
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      Looking for a physical attacker in place of Rotom, yes? In that case, I'd recommend Mienshao.

      Mienshao
      @Life Orb
      Ability: Regenerator
      Nature: Adamant
      EVs: Max Atk, Max Speed

      U-Turn, Drain Punch, Fake Out, Detect/ Swords Dance

      I'm rather iffy on the last move slot for that, because of the Life Orb. But with a Regenerator U-turn, or even Drain Punch, it should be relatively taken care of. Sorry if this doesn't help any, but I'm hoping it does. =)

      However, if Life Orb doesn't work, you can run a CB, or a CS. (Choice Band or Choice Scarf)

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      Old September 9th, 2011 (10:23 AM).
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      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Latios Master View Post
      I currently have 2 weaknesses to Fire, Ice, Ground, Bug, Ghost, and Dark. I only add a new Pokémon if it doesn't give me a third weakness to one type.

      I had Air Balloons listed for Magnezone and Chandelure, but I decided to remove them because of the difficulty in getting them.

      Any suggestions would be appreciated, especially for filling the Rotom-W spot. I only have one physical attacker, so I'm looking to add another one of those.

      You got a pretty neat little team here. ^o^

      The only thing I want to mention is that you actually have 2 weaknesses to Grass along with the weaknesses you have to Fire, Ice, Ground.. etc... But, I think I have an interesting idea on what you can replace Rotom-W with. I was thinking Gyarados. This way, you no longer have two Pokemon that are weak to the aforementioned 7 types. Essentially, you'll be exchanging your weaknesses to Grass and Ground, for a weakness in Rock (and the x4 weakness to Electric but resistances to Fire, Bug, Ground, Water, Fighting, and Steel). So, I don't know, maybe Gyarados can be something good for you to try out. It's also physically oriented, like you mentioned wanting. So, that's why I'm suggesting it.

      Gyarados @ Leftovers
      Intimidate
      156 HP / 72 Attackk / 96 Defense / 184 Speed
      Adamant [+Attack; -Sp.Attack]
      - Waterfall
      - Bounce / Stone Edge
      - Dragon Dance
      - Taunt

      So, I've been told that this is a nice Bulky Set for Gyarados (of course, 248 HP / 252 Defense / 8 Special Defense or 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 Defense would work according to your needs). And with access to Dragon Dance it can do some serious damage with those STAB Waterfalls/Bounces. Stone Edge is also a good option for neutral coverage and for hitting other Flying types like Dragonite. I prefer Bounce, however, so Gyarados can hit Bulky Grass types and have an additional turn for Leftover recovery. Taunt gives Gyarados the option to set up against Pokemon is usually has problems with, like Skarmory, and prevents status effecting moves from Blissey. But hey, this is just what I've read. If you want a good Gyarados, talk to Karpman. He knows what he's doing. ;D

      @Folly~
      The only reason Mienshao wouldn't work is because you'll be losing out on a bunch of useful resistances, mainly Fire and Steel. Then again, it's not adding any more weaknesses, so it is viable I suppose.

      I would also like to stress the benefits of an Air Balloon on Magnezone, but I understand that you must work with what you've got. You've got a nifty team here, I hope it works out for you!

      Good luck! :3

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      Old September 9th, 2011 (12:00 PM).
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      Hi Latios Master.

      This is a cute team, but it could obviously be improved. Firstly, I think you ought to get rid of Magnezone and put Choice Band Infernape in place of it. Choice Band Infernape is a much better U-Turn user than Whimsicott and a dominating offensive presence that makes nice synergy with Rotom-W. Infernape's speed tier is so potent that it can outspeed most of its counters and switch to Rotom-W, which can take care of whatever counters Infernape. The one Pokemon you want to look out for with this combo is Latias, while it can't take a CB U-Turn, it can outspeed Infernape and resist its other attacks, as well as wall Rotom-W completely.

      Infernape @ Choice Band
      4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
      Jolly Nature
      ~ Flare Blitz / Fire Punch
      ~ Close Combat
      ~ Mach Punch
      ~ U-turn

      Additionally, Chandelure is a really lackluster Pokemon and is only good for breaking stall, there are better Calm Mind Sweepers and Ghost Types out there. I'd use Calm Mind Reuniclus over it, if I were you, since it has the bulk to take on hits from powerful Pokemon like Virizion and Conkeldurr and then set wisk them away with an already powerful attack, or get up a Calm Mind on them and prepare to sweep.

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      Old September 10th, 2011 (3:18 PM).
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        Thank you for the suggestions.

        If I were to add Infernape and Reuniclus, should I remove Whimsicott as well? Otherwise I would have 3 weaknesses to Bug.

        @Alexial357: Thanks for pointing out that I forgot to add the 2 Grass weaknesses. I knew about it but forgot to add it to the post. I IV bred for a Magikarp in the spring incase I ever wanted to use a Gyarados on my team, so that's something to consider. I bred for a Jolly nature, however.

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        Old September 10th, 2011 (3:38 PM).
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        Quote:
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        Thank you for the suggestions.

        If I were to add Infernape and Reuniclus, should I remove Whimsicott as well? Otherwise I would have 3 weaknesses to Bug.

        @Alexial357: Thanks for pointing out that I forgot to add the 2 Grass weaknesses. I knew about it but forgot to add it to the post. I IV bred for a Magikarp in the spring incase I ever wanted to use a Gyarados on my team, so that's something to consider. I bred for a Jolly nature, however.

        Well you could use Infernape over Whimsicott instead, since Magnezone isn't awful, it's just more useful when you have multiple dragon types. Honestly, you shouldn't really worry about weaknesses to certain types of attacks, rather weaknesses to certain Pokemon, since all you have to do to assure that bug attacks won't be a problem is to keep Magnezone alive, but since there are Pokemon like Volcarona which carry Bug, Fire and sometimes Ground moves, you have to account for the Pokemon as a whole and all the attacks it commonly carries.

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        Old September 10th, 2011 (9:06 PM).
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        Sup Latios, I know you know me from SHC. I havent been hunting just battling. lol

        But I agree with the Banded Infernape as you will be able to outspeed many pokes, besides latios. You can also be able to scout what your opponent will do if you u-turn and they switch or whatever.

        I honestly like Gengar over Reun. I just find myself being able to use Gengar to just devour.

        This is the set I run.

        Substitute
        Hidden Power Fire or Tbolt
        Shadow Ball
        Focus Blast

        4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

        Personally I would run HP fire mainly to counter Scizor and has come in handy when it comes to that. I'm not saying to use Gengar because you have Magnezone and the resistance to many types with it. I just really liked Gengar if you needed to switch out. Unless you are dead set on Calm Mind sets for a SpA then I say go for it. Karpman's idea was fantastic reason being is because Reun is bulky, and Chandy is well, I tried one on my team the same set you ran and I had no luck with it because I couldn't set up and even if I had a Focus Sash it wouldn't have mattered.

        Good luck my friend

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        Old September 12th, 2011 (12:31 AM).
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          Hey, TheGr8. Yes, I know you from the SHC. Thanks for the suggestion.

          I replaced Whimsicott with Infernape and Chandelure with Gengar.

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