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Old June 14th, 2010 (12:49 PM).
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    Can anyone suggest some niche OU/UU pokemon movesets? By niche, I mean something similar to Breloom's Spore Puncher set (unique moves/alternative play-style).
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    Old June 14th, 2010 (10:53 PM).
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    Hey everyone, Charizard is my favorite Pokemon so I was hoping to be able to make a "perfect Charizard". Obviously it can't be perfect I just want a really good one. I will EV Train him but first I need opinions on attacks and Nature and what not. I want him to learn Belly Drum from breeding so if we could branch off from there that would be swell. Thanks Guys.
    Unfortunately, Charizard is hard to battle with due to its weakness to Stealth Rock. BellZard is even worse. Anyway, here is the Smogon analysis to it: http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/charizard

    Also, what is a good RSE UU lead and a sweeper that works well with it? I'm trying to get into 3rd Gen UU.
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    What are some good adv lures for Snorlax? He currently poops on my team. I'll tell you what my team is so it is easier to tell me what to get rid of:

    Tauntrados - Not really sure, I needed a 6th pokemon and I figured a +1 HP Flying can kill Celebi if Duggy is gone.
    Suicune - CM/Ice Beam/Surf/HP Electric
    Celebi - This pokemon is godly. Running the Leech Seed/Heal Bell/HP Grass/Recover. Not going to replace it, its so good.
    Dugtrio - CB Set. Primary Celebi killer and great revenge killer
    Breloom - Sub/Spore/Seed/Punch is the set, its good, but I feel like its not doing much other than dying to the same stuff celebi does.
    Blissey - Back up cleric/special sponge. Aroma/SToss/Ice Beam/Softboiled. good special wall.

    I need something to reliably counter or lure in Snorlax. Im thinking I should drop Gyara for something like Mence, but idk. HALP.

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    Old June 15th, 2010 (3:44 PM).
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    What are some good adv lures for Snorlax? He currently poops on my team. I'll tell you what my team is so it is easier to tell me what to get rid of:

    Tauntrados - Not really sure, I needed a 6th pokemon and I figured a +1 HP Flying can kill Celebi if Duggy is gone.
    Suicune - CM/Ice Beam/Surf/HP Electric
    Celebi - This pokemon is godly. Running the Leech Seed/Heal Bell/HP Grass/Recover. Not going to replace it, its so good.
    Dugtrio - CB Set. Primary Celebi killer and great revenge killer
    Breloom - Sub/Spore/Seed/Punch is the set, its good, but I feel like its not doing much other than dying to the same stuff celebi does.
    Blissey - Back up cleric/special sponge. Aroma/SToss/Ice Beam/Softboiled. good special wall.

    I need something to reliably counter or lure in Snorlax. Im thinking I should drop Gyara for something like Mence, but idk. HALP.

    Remember this is for Advance.
    Mence might be good just steer clear of MixMence, who can't even KO Blissey with Brick Break. Run DD Mence w/Brick Break.
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    Old June 15th, 2010 (6:24 PM). Edited June 15th, 2010 by Vakana.
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      Hi guys! I'm new to PokeCommunity, as this is my first post. I don't know if this is the right section to post in, so forgive me if I'm posting in the wrong area. But I would like to have my garchomp rated, please? I intend on joining the competitive battling scene once I have finished an entire team. I'd like to construct a team focused on sweeping to start out. I know I'll probably get my butt handed to me in my first battle, but I have to start somewhere, right?

      Garchomp @ Life Orb
      252 Att / 252 Spe / 6 Def
      Adamant [+Att, -SpA]
      Outrage
      Swords dance
      Earthquake
      Stone edge

      His IVs are:

      31 HP
      31 Att
      15 Def
      28 SpA
      29 SpD
      31 Spe

      I find that a lot of the content in the PokeCommunity forums as well as smogon forums confuses me; it's really discouaraging and makes me feel inadequate to join the metagame. I'll keep on reading and see if I get it.

      Thank you for any and all insightful posts, or any posts at all. :)
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      Old June 15th, 2010 (7:10 PM).
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        Hi guys! I'm new to PokeCommunity, as this is my first post. I don't know if this is the right section to post in, so forgive me if I'm posting in the wrong area. But I would like to have my garchomp rated, please? I intend on joining the competitive battling scene once I have finished an entire team. I'd like to construct a team focused on sweeping to start out. I know I'll probably get my butt handed to me in my first battle, but I have to start somewhere, right?

        Garchomp @ Life Orb
        252 Att / 252 Spe / 6 Def
        Adamant [+Att, -SpA]
        Outrage
        Swords dance
        Earthquake
        Stone edge

        His IVs are:

        31 HP
        31 Att
        15 Def
        28 SpA
        29 SpD
        31 Spe

        I find that a lot of the content in the PokeCommunity forums as well as smogon forums confuses me; it's really discouaraging and makes me feel inadequate to join the metagame. I'll keep on reading and see if I get it.

        Thank you for any and all insightful posts, or any posts at all. :)
        Garchomp likes to run Yache or Haban Berry on this set, it looks fine otherwise. Keeping in mind that Garchomp is Uber, it does prefer a Jolly Nature however. Stone Edge is fine as it is, but Fire Fang is also a good option for taking out Steels. Keep in mind though that without Stone Edge, you do lose to Lugia.
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        Old June 15th, 2010 (7:22 PM).
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          Thank you, Skip Shot! I'll keep the berries in mind. I read that jolly is the preferred nature for garchomp, and I was disheartened. I can redo the breeding process and get a garchomp like this, but jolly. I know I'm outsped by a few other pokemon. Thanks again for your advice, Skip Shot.
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          Old June 15th, 2010 (8:12 PM).
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            Thank you, Skip Shot! I'll keep the berries in mind. I read that jolly is the preferred nature for garchomp, and I was disheartened. I can redo the breeding process and get a garchomp like this, but jolly. I know I'm outsped by a few other pokemon. Thanks again for your advice, Skip Shot.
            Yeah as Skip Shot said I would really reccomend you to rebreed your Garchomp for a Jolly Nature, as it allows Garchomp to outspeed quite a few threats, like Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Palkia, Manaphy, Mew, Dialga, Ho-Oh, and Giratina. Some of which with Adamant nature he speed ties with. Also Skip Shot I really dont see the point in using Fire Fang at all when it has STAB Earthquake to hit steel types with...
            I have a Jolly 31/30/31/X/31/31 Garchomp I RNG Abused myself Vakana, if you dont feel like rebreeding one yourself feel free to PM me and if you can clone ill send you a copy.
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            Old June 15th, 2010 (9:17 PM).
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              Also Skip Shot I really dont see the point in using Fire Fang at all when it has STAB Earthquake to hit steel types with...
              Its for SKarm and Bronzong mainly. Stone Edge is better in ubers though to hit Lugia but Crunch can be used if you're using Outrage to hit Giratina (without locking yourself into Outrage) whilst still maintaining coverage vs Lugia.
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              Stone Edge also hits Ho-Oh for 4x Damage who can be threatening with SubRoost and a 50% burn rate from Sacred Fire. x__x As well as it can hit Rayquazza without having to Outrage.
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              Old June 16th, 2010 (12:27 AM).
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                Didn't get an answer so I'll repost. I want to use RestTalk Gyara, and CroCune isn't that effective. And I want another PHazer too.
                The team:

                Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
                Ability: Torrent
                EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
                Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
                - Stealth Rock
                - Earthquake
                - Ice Beam
                - Roar
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                Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
                Ability: Sturdy
                EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
                Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
                - Spikes
                - Toxic Spikes - I'll remove this, no idea for a secondary attack.
                - Payback
                - Rapid Spin
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                Rotom-h @ Leftovers
                Ability: Levitate
                EVs: 252 HP/168 Def/88 Spd
                Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
                - Thunderbolt
                - Will-O-Wisp
                - Shadow Ball
                - Overheat
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                Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
                Ability: Natural Cure
                EVs: 24 HP / 252 Def / 232 SpD
                Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
                - Wish
                - Protect
                - Softboiled
                - Seismic Toss
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                Suicune @ Leftovers
                Ability: Pressure
                EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Spd
                Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
                - Surf
                - Calm Mind
                - Rest
                - Sleep Talk
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                Tyranitar (M) @ Choice Scarf
                Ability: Sand Stream
                EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
                Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
                - Stone Edge
                - Crunch
                - Pursuit
                - Earthquake
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                I'll might use a Cleric because this team hates status too.
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                Old June 16th, 2010 (12:41 AM).
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                  Rotom-h @ Leftovers
                  Ability: Levitate
                  EVs: 252 HP/168 Def/88 SpD
                  Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
                  - Thunderbolt
                  - Will-O-Wisp
                  - Pain Split
                  - Substitute
                  Yeah. Sub and outstall things with T-Spikes up, burn all the junk that isn't able to be poisoned. Switch from Pursuiters with the Sub.

                  Keep Toxic Spikes, or CroCune is rather useless lol. Put Careful on Forry as it helps with your ridiculous Sub Gar weakness.

                  Lacks a last poke stopper. Put something with Trick over ScarfTar, Scarf Jirachi would work well.

                  Also your team doesn't fear status, you have a status absorber in Cune and a Blissey.
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                    I wanted to kick CroCune. Things with Sub are annoying and Pert can't stay alive too long against special attacks. So I wanted to use RestTalk Gyara > CroCune.
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                    What's the best set for a Calm Blissey with Seismic Toss?
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                    What's the best set for a Calm Blissey with Seismic Toss?
                    Sub Pain Split Gengar
                    SubCharge Rotom
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                    SubCharge Rotom poops all over it since Bliss can't do anything to it but switch out.

                    edit: @ RTHookers, Replace CroCune with CM/Rest/HP Electric/Surf

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                    Old June 16th, 2010 (11:37 AM).
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                      I have a question.
                      I don't know how to do any extended breeding for egg moves.

                      I'd like my Teddiursa to know Crunch and Close Combat. I have a male Zangoose with Close Combat and a male Raticate with Crunch. How do I get both of these moves onto a Teddiursa?
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                      Old June 16th, 2010 (11:42 AM).
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                        Breed Crunch onto a Riolu and evolve into Lucario to pass on Close Combat and Crunch.

                        Otherwise Smeargle, Snubbull, and another Teddiursa.

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                        I have a question.
                        I don't know how to do any extended breeding for egg moves.

                        I'd like my Teddiursa to know Crunch and Close Combat. I have a male Zangoose with Close Combat and a male Raticate with Crunch. How do I get both of these moves onto a Teddiursa?
                        Smeargle, in double battle, can Sketch the move used by partner.

                        HINT: if using a Sinnoh game, visit the twins south of Floaroma.

                        I have a "similar" Teddiursa, only with Night Slash and Cross Chop.
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                          Zangoose + female Teddiursa = male Teddiursa with Crunch
                          Raticate + female Teddiursa = male Teddiursa with CC

                          Two males won't breed together and females don't pass down egg moves. Unless I'm overlooking something obvious, you can't pass the moves down with those Pokémon right now. You also can't breed the moves onto one another (Zangoose can't learn crunch, Raticate can't learn CC), so you'll have to do something like:

                          Male Chimchar -> Monferno @ 26 for CC
                          Male Monferno + Female Snubbull -> Male Snubbull w/ CC
                          Male Snubbull @ 49 for Crunch
                          Male Snubbull + Female Teddiursa -> Teddiursa w/ CC and Crunch
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                            Smeargle, in double battle, can Sketch the move used by partner.

                            HINT: if using a Sinnoh game, visit the twins south of Floaroma.

                            I have a "similar" Teddiursa, only with Night Slash and Cross Chop.
                            Oh, Smeargle!

                            So, I can catch a male Smeargle, enter a double battle with it and sketch the move Close Combat from smeargle's partner, switch pokemon, and sketch Crunch from the new partner?

                            Epic win, thanks so much.
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                              Oh, Smeargle!

                              So, I can catch a male Smeargle, enter a double battle with it and sketch the move Close Combat from smeargle's partner, switch pokemon, and sketch Crunch from the new partner?

                              Epic win, thanks so much.
                              Just remember the "speed issue" as Smeargle usually wants to go last (hold items: Lagging Tail/Rock Incense/Macho Brace).
                              Smeargle would use another move when Sketch'n a two turn move or 'counter' move.

                              ASSIST is note worthy for the "two turn Sketch"...
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                                Sub Pain Split Gengar
                                SubCharge Rotom
                                SD <Pokemon>
                                SubChamp

                                SubCharge Rotom poops all over it since Bliss can't do anything to it but switch out.

                                edit: @ RTHookers, Replace CroCune with CM/Rest/HP Electric/Surf

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                                Uh how does that answer his question ?_? lol


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                                - Stealth Rock / Flamethrower / Ice Beam / Aromatherapy

                                If you use a special attack last slot put the hp evs in s.att.

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                                Softboiled > Protect, since Protect is so easy to take advantage of i.e they can DD on your protect and then DD again as you switch out lol. That and you cant heal yourself on PHazers which is an issue with Spikes. The extra pp is great too.
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                                  moves: yawn, dream eater, focus blast, grass knot

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                                      I don't think Stockpile will help you much without Swallow, and Spit Up.
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                                      I'm a newbie to the whole EV Training thing, and although I'm beginning to get the hang of it, there are still things that I'm a bit lost with. I'm currently training my Lucario's Special Attack; he has PKRS and a Power Lens. I read that Oddish gives out Special Attack EV's, but I was wondering whether I should continue ONLY fighting Oddishes until the EV's are maxed out, or whether I can fight other Pokemon to get Lucario's level up (because Oddish gives CRAP experience :/). I know that Rare Candies are the best idea for levelling up, but I'm low on those and very lazy when it comes to battle points xD

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